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edisonprime

Last reply Jan 22, 2019 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

I'm willing to bet Dish will have a dispute with KIMT (Rochester/Austin, MN; Mason City, IA) soon...

I've noticed even though I am "moved" that one of my TRUE LOCALS KIMT is missing the CBS logo from my OTA scanned locals. The logo has been missing (from what I've payed attention) at least a few days. When there is no logo that usually means that they are in negotiations and probably there was one or more extensions. The logo is usually missing at this time (at least for the OTA versions of these stations to the best of my knowledge), and with Dish when they are in negotiations that usually means there'll probably be a dispute.

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sam_gordon

Jan 21, 2019

edisonprime said:
I've noticed even though I am "moved" that one of my TRUE LOCALS KIMT is missing the CBS logo from my OTA scanned locals. The logo has been missing (from what I've payed attention) at least a few days. When there is no logo that usually means that they are in negotiations and probably there was one or more extensions. The logo is usually missing at this time (at least for the OTA versions of these stations to the best of my knowledge), and with Dish when they are in negotiations that usually means there'll probably be a dispute.

I would not take the lack of a logo as signs of a possible contract negotiation. A little research shows the following...

KIMT is owned by Heartland Media.
According to this article in 2016, WTVA (another Heartland owned property) had a contract dispute with Dish "four years earlier".
2016 - 4 = 2012.

Assuming the contracts are three years (I believe that's the standard), if they came to an agreement in 2012, they then did renewals in 2015 & 2018.
If the contracts were four years, renewals would be done in 2016 & 2020.
If the contracts were two years, renewals would be done in 2014, 2016, & 2018.

My guess is KIMT is probably good for another 2-3 years.

ChadT41

Jan 21, 2019

The logo is missing from most my OTA channels. They come and go, which is fine with me.

rvvaquero

Jan 21, 2019

Ease up guys. edisonprime had a Sherlock moment and wanted to share it with us.

ChadT41

Jan 21, 2019

I am ease. Was explaining how mine work for future reference.

bobvick

Jan 22, 2019

sam_gordon said:
I would not take the lack of a logo as signs of a possible contract negotiation. A little research shows the following...

KIMT is owned by Heartland Media.
According to this article in 2016, WTVA (another Heartland owned property) had a contract dispute with Dish "four years earlier".
2016 - 4 = 2012.

Assuming the contracts are three years (I believe that's the standard), if they came to an agreement in 2012, they then did renewals in 2015 & 2018.
If the contracts were four years, renewals would be done in 2016 & 2020.
If the contracts were two years, renewals would be done in 2014, 2016, & 2018.

My guess is KIMT is probably good for another 2-3 years.

More thank likely, your right, the lack of a logo doesn't mean a dispute is in the air.

However, in 2012, WTVA was still locally owned by the Spain family.

The station was sold to Heartland Media in 2014.

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mheisen

Last reply Today at 3:43 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 2:50 PM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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mheisen

Yesterday at 6:11 PM

Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 6:33 PM

mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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Today at 3:38 AM

Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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