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Last reply Mar 1, 2019 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

AT&T Jan 30 8k

At December 31, 2018, Entertainment revenue connections included:
? Approximately 24.5 million video connections (including 1.6 million DIRECTV NOW subscribers) at December 31, 2018 compared to 25.2 million at December 31, 2017. During the fourth quarter of 2018, including the impact of losses of 267,000 from DIRECTV NOW, total video subscribers decreased 658,000. DIRECTV NOW net adds included approximately 65,000 on free or substantially free trials.
? Approximately 14.4 million broadband connections at December 31, 2018 compared to 14.4 million at December 31, 2017. During the fourth quarter, we added 6,000 IP broadband subscribers, for a total of 13.7 million at December 31, 2018. Total broadband subscribers decreased 32,000 in the quarter.
? Approximately 8.5 million wired voice connections at December 31, 2018 compared to 10.0 million at December 31, 2017. Voice connections include switched access lines and VoIP connections.

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Claude Greiner

Jan 31, 2019

The problem with Directv now is that they ended the 3 month for $10 offer.

You get a whole bunch of customers riding the wave and all your doing is churning through new customers as the free trial ends.

When they where heavily pushing it, all day we would get calls about getting Directv for $10.

The internet is a very serious threat to the entire pay Tv industry. The problem is 3 fold.

#1 we got the pirate services running on android boxes with illegal software. Dish has actually got the right approach to this by shutting then down by filing lawsuits.

#2 The content providers are to blame for making their content available online.

#3 Directv and especially Dish are to blame here for offering the content online. Of all companies who is NOT a traditional internet service provider, should not be offering content online.

The writing is on the wall. If traditional pay tv is going to survive, the major pay Tv providers that also provide internet (AT&T, Spectrum, Comcast) need to get together and adjust their internet packages to address streaming video.

The fact of the matter is the internet service providers are not going away, but once the cheap unlimited internet goes away and the price is adjusted to away with any savings from streaming then people won't mind going back to traditional pay Tv.

There is going to be a major correction to the market soon.

I for one are sick of seeing larger and larger discounts for new customers to hide the yearly price increases. The sports channels has really put the pricing out of hand.

Another interesting thing is that the lack of traditional pay Tv is going to kill the outrageous salaries for professional athletes.

If people can save $10-$15 getting rid of ESPN and their regional sports network they will drop it in a heartbeat

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slice1900

Jan 31, 2019

What really matters isn't a switch from cable/satellite to IP that's still in the same MVPD format with a bunch of live channels. Satellite will slowly decline and eventually end because it won't be worth the cost of replacing Directv's satellites when they begin to run out of fuel in ten years ago - probably sooner for Dish. Cable requires the same infrastructure for an internet only customer and an internet and TV customer so there aren't any provider savings to be had there at all but cable companies will go "all IP" because dividing their cable bandwidth up into 6 MHz channels is incredibly inefficient compared to DOCSIS 3.x which uses 192 MHz wide channels - effectively 40% more efficient without the wasted "guard bands" on the channel edges.

The cost of content is the same whether delivered by cable, by satellite or via IP if it is the same live channel model. People switching from Directv to Directv Now or Comcast to Sling may affect the profit of individual MVPDs but the content owners are still making money for whatever is in the packages people are subscribing to. They don't care how it is delivered, they get paid either way. For this reason they don't really consider someone getting Sling or Directv Now as a cord cutter - those customers still subscribe to a traditional MVPD, it is just delivered in a different manner.

What REALLY matters are people who leave that live channel model behind entirely. They are the ones who will affect the content owners bottom line, especially ESPN's. The problem they will need to solve in that post-MVPD world is account sharing. You can't really share a cable subscription with a friend and while it is possible with satellite it probably isn't too common or Directv/Dish would have taken obvious technical measures against it (tying receivers to a particular dish, for example) It is all too easy to account share with streaming, and it will be hard enough for content owners preserve revenue in a streaming world without every other "customer" actually being 2 or 3 customers living in different locations.

So far the streaming world has mostly ignored it, worrying more about growth than misuse, but a few years down the road they are going to start cracking down on it. There would be simple technical measures, like giving people a "dongle" they need to keep connected to their home network to authenticate their streams (or streams from any mobile devices that have been on the same local network in the past week) as the authorized user.

nelson61

Feb 26, 2019

From Seeking Alpha.

"AT&T has total assets of $531 billion and of that 58%, or $310 billion is in the form of goodwill and intangible assets"

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Jimbo

Feb 26, 2019

slice1900 said:
What really matters isn't a switch from cable/satellite to IP that's still in the same MVPD format with a bunch of live channels. Satellite will slowly decline and eventually end because it won't be worth the cost of replacing Directv's satellites when they begin to run out of fuel in ten years ago - probably sooner for Dish. Cable requires the same infrastructure for an internet only customer and an internet and TV customer so there aren't any provider savings to be had there at all but cable companies will go "all IP" because dividing their cable bandwidth up into 6 MHz channels is incredibly inefficient compared to DOCSIS 3.x which uses 192 MHz wide channels - effectively 40% more efficient without the wasted "guard bands" on the channel edges.

The cost of content is the same whether delivered by cable, by satellite or via IP if it is the same live channel model. People switching from Directv to Directv Now or Comcast to Sling may affect the profit of individual MVPDs but the content owners are still making money for whatever is in the packages people are subscribing to. They don't care how it is delivered, they get paid either way. For this reason they don't really consider someone getting Sling or Directv Now as a cord cutter - those customers still subscribe to a traditional MVPD, it is just delivered in a different manner.

What REALLY matters are people who leave that live channel model behind entirely. They are the ones who will affect the content owners bottom line, especially ESPN's. The problem they will need to solve in that post-MVPD world is account sharing. You can't really share a cable subscription with a friend and while it is possible with satellite it probably isn't too common or Directv/Dish would have taken obvious technical measures against it (tying receivers to a particular dish, for example) It is all too easy to account share with streaming, and it will be hard enough for content owners preserve revenue in a streaming world without every other "customer" actually being 2 or 3 customers living in different locations.

So far the streaming world has mostly ignored it, worrying more about growth than misuse, but a few years down the road they are going to start cracking down on it. There would be simple technical measures, like giving people a "dongle" they need to keep connected to their home network to authenticate their streams (or streams from any mobile devices that have been on the same local network in the past week) as the authorized user.

Only problem with the dongle idea or others you mentioned, is IF/When they start to crack down, people will just move on to the next option .... unless it happens with ALL companies at the same time, its gonna be hard to implement.

Jimbo

Feb 26, 2019

nelson61 said:
From Seeking Alpha.

"AT&T has total assets of $531 billion and of that 58%, or $310 billion is in the form of goodwill and intangible assets"

Sent from my SM-G955U1 using the SatelliteGuys app!

Wish I had some of that "GOODWILL " ...

Joe The Dragon

Feb 26, 2019

Claude Greiner said:
The problem with Directv now is that they ended the 3 month for $10 offer.

#3 Directv and especially Dish are to blame here for offering the content online. Of all companies who is NOT a traditional internet service provider, should not be offering content online.

The writing is on the wall. If traditional pay tv is going to survive, the major pay Tv providers that also provide internet (AT&T, Spectrum, Comcast) need to get together and adjust their internet packages to address streaming video.

I for one are sick of seeing larger and larger discounts for new customers to hide the yearly price increases. The sports channels has really put the pricing out of hand.

Another interesting thing is that the lack of traditional pay Tv is going to kill the outrageous salaries for professional athletes.

If people can save $10-$15 getting rid of ESPN and their regional sports network they will drop it in a heartbeat

The own content and some of it high cost local sports also some may just cap you hard? and what if Disney wanted to try that forced bundles for intent-net?

NashGuy

Feb 26, 2019

slice1900 said:
What really matters isn't a switch from cable/satellite to IP that's still in the same MVPD format with a bunch of live channels. Satellite will slowly decline and eventually end because it won't be worth the cost of replacing Directv's satellites when they begin to run out of fuel in ten years ago - probably sooner for Dish. Cable requires the same infrastructure for an internet only customer and an internet and TV customer so there aren't any provider savings to be had there at all but cable companies will go "all IP" because dividing their cable bandwidth up into 6 MHz channels is incredibly inefficient compared to DOCSIS 3.x which uses 192 MHz wide channels - effectively 40% more efficient without the wasted "guard bands" on the channel edges.

The cost of content is the same whether delivered by cable, by satellite or via IP if it is the same live channel model. People switching from Directv to Directv Now or Comcast to Sling may affect the profit of individual MVPDs but the content owners are still making money for whatever is in the packages people are subscribing to. They don't care how it is delivered, they get paid either way. For this reason they don't really consider someone getting Sling or Directv Now as a cord cutter - those customers still subscribe to a traditional MVPD, it is just delivered in a different manner.

What REALLY matters are people who leave that live channel model behind entirely. They are the ones who will affect the content owners bottom line, especially ESPN's. The problem they will need to solve in that post-MVPD world is account sharing. You can't really share a cable subscription with a friend and while it is possible with satellite it probably isn't too common or Directv/Dish would have taken obvious technical measures against it (tying receivers to a particular dish, for example) It is all too easy to account share with streaming, and it will be hard enough for content owners preserve revenue in a streaming world without every other "customer" actually being 2 or 3 customers living in different locations.

So far the streaming world has mostly ignored it, worrying more about growth than misuse, but a few years down the road they are going to start cracking down on it. There would be simple technical measures, like giving people a "dongle" they need to keep connected to their home network to authenticate their streams (or streams from any mobile devices that have been on the same local network in the past week) as the authorized user.

I doubt that any of the OTT services will resort to issuing their own hardware to deal with the problem of account sharing (assuming they at some point see it as a problem). It could probably be addressed effectively enough, should they choose, through software/big data/AI:

Creepy Crackdown On Netflix Password Sharing May Be Coming Soon

Apart from that, yep, I agree with what you're saying. The big shift folks should think about isn't in how traditional cable channel packages (MVPDs) are distributed, going from cable and satellite to OTT apps (e.g. DTV Now, Sling TV, etc.). The big shift is to the "post-MVPD world," as you put it, in which content is distributed direct from the content owners to the customers via their own OTT apps.

It will be very interesting to see to what extent AT&T/WarnerMedia believes in that shift from MVPD to DTC (direct-to-consumer) when they launch their forthcoming DTC OTT service this fall. Will they be willing to cannibalize subscriptions to their traditional cable channels by, say, including new episodes of series from TBS, TNT, Cartoon Network and TruTV on the DTC service at the same time they premiere on the linear channels (the way HBO Now works) or the next day (the way Hulu works with shows from ABC, NBC and Fox)? Will they include a live stream of the CNN channels in this new service? How about including live streams of sports that air on TNT and TBS?

Or, on the other hand, will AT&T try to make this new service mainly complementary to their basic cable channels, so that if you really want all the current stuff that they have to offer, you'd need both an MVPD package plus this new service?

slice1900

Feb 27, 2019

Jimbo said:
Only problem with the dongle idea or others you mentioned, is IF/When they start to crack down, people will just move on to the next option .... unless it happens with ALL companies at the same time, its gonna be hard to implement.

The dongle would have to be a contractual mandate from content owners. Even if streaming companies decide they are willing to tolerate some account sharing if they believe it helps keep their customers around, the content owners might not want to give up that revenue. They are why we have HDCP, it was not the MVPDs who created it or began enforcing its use.

nelson61

Mar 1, 2019

the cell phone man running at&t was putting his thumb on the HBO boss.

The HBO boss is the guy creative talent really likes. He hugs, flatters, and picks up talent/shows viewers really like.

The HBO guy quit today.

I'm thinking at&t thinks entertainment is just another accounting type business line.

Not a good sign for their future.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 33 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Paramount +

For the naysayers who did not think this service would make it, just added another 4.9M subscribers and that was after the removal of 1.2M Russia subscribers.

This is even better, Paramount+ revenue grew 120% and Subscription revenue grew 74% year-over-year ( 2nd quarter 2021/ 2nd quarter 2022) to $830M, principally reflecting paid subscriber growth on Paramount+.

Now compare that to Peacock with only 13 million paid, 13 million free.

https://ir.paramount.com/static-files/19c917ac-a92b-4e68-920a-db1264e56def

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Bruce

Oct 4, 2026

Just noticed, CBS shows on Paramount+ are now same day premieres vs next day, which is how they used to be.

Also in 4K/HDR/DV.

I wonder how providers feel about this, they pay an expensive per sub fee for CBS, who is giving another positive reason to drop Paid Live TV and subscribe to P+.

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Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

Bruce said:
Just noticed, CBS shows on Paramount+ are now same day premieres vs next day, which is how they used to be.

Also in 4K/HDR/DV.

I wonder how providers feel about this, they pay an expensive per sub fee for CBS, who is giving another positive reason to drop Paid Live TV and subscribe to P+.

So, this means that those of us with Commercial Free subs, won't be Commercial Free, unless we wait till after the show is over ?
Which would make same day, not that big of a deal.

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b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
So, this means that those of us with Commercial Free subs, won't be Commercial Free, unless we wait till after the show is over ?
Which would make same day, not that big of a deal.

Paramount+ has always had the CBS shows on the CBS local channel and yes with commercials. What they are doing now is releasing the OnDemand versions of the show which I believe they don't release until after the shows air on the west coast. And they will be commercial free if you subscribe to the ad free version of Paramount+.

Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Paramount+ has always had the CBS shows on the CBS local channel and yes with commercials. What they are doing now is releasing the OnDemand versions of the show which I believe they don't release until after the shows air on the west coast. And they will be commercial free if you subscribe to the ad free version of Paramount+.

So, the New season won't be on the same day commercial free ???

Looks like the On Demand will Still be the Next Day ...

If you have the Top tier, you could get the LIVE Network feed same as any Cable or OTA would.
===============================================================================

Key facts

Premiere date: Tuesday, Oct. 6, 2026
Release schedule: Weekly on Tuesdays
Network: CBS
Streaming: Paramount+*
Series created by: Donald P. Bellisario and Don McGill

*New episodes of NCIS stream live on Paramount+ as they air on CBS for subscribers of the Paramount+ Premium plan. Episodes stream on demand on Paramount+ on the day after they air on CBS for all subscribers.

b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
So, the New season won't be on the same day commercial free ???

Looks like the On Demand will Still be the Next Day ...

If you have the Top tier, you could get the LIVE Network feed same as any Cable or OTA would.
===============================================================================

Key facts

Premiere date: Tuesday, Oct. 6, 2026

Release schedule: Weekly on Tuesdays

Network: CBS

Streaming: Paramount+*

Series created by: Donald P. Bellisario and Don McGill

*New episodes of NCIS stream live on Paramount+ as they air on CBS for subscribers of the Paramount+ Premium plan. Episodes stream on demand on Paramount+ on the day after they air on CBS for all subscribers.

Watching it on the CBS local on Paramount+ is the exact same as watching it on your CBS local on your current cable/satellite/mvpd/vMVPD service. The OnDemand versions of it can be released on the same day that it airs but usually it is after the show airs on the west coast so if you have a show at 7:00 pm in your time zone and it airs 3 hours later on the west coast at 10:00 pm your time then they could release it at 11:00 pm your time if it was a one hour show. I really have not checked to see what time I can see the ad free OnDemand shows on Paramount+. I know today that last nights FBI and CIA show did not pop into the Up Next row on my Apple TV until this afternoon. I guess it may have been in Paramount+ since last night but I never checked it.

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Jimbo

33 minutes ago

b4pjoe said:
Watching it on the CBS local on Paramount+ is the exact same as watching it on your CBS local on your current cable/satellite/mvpd/vMVPD service. The OnDemand versions of it can be released on the same day that it airs but usually it is after the show airs on the west coast so if you have a show at 7:00 pm in your time zone and it airs 3 hours later on the west coast at 10:00 pm your time then they could release it at 11:00 pm your time if it was a one hour show. I really have not checked to see what time I can see the ad free OnDemand shows on Paramount+. I know today that last nights FBI and CIA show did not pop into the Up Next row on my Apple TV until this afternoon. I guess it may have been in Paramount+ since last night but I never checked it.

I think I read 3am est the next day, somewhere.

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jamieh1

Last reply Today at 7:36 AM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Directv curated multi view now live

The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.

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KyL416

Tuesday at 7:29 PM

It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

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b4pjoe

Tuesday at 7:30 PM

KyL416 said:
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.

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TheRatPatrol

Yesterday at 11:37 PM

KyL416 said:
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks

I WANT MORE

Today at 7:36 AM

b4pjoe said:
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.

It's on my Air's.

"MysteryMan"

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 7:24 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Windows 10/11 Download

I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.

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EarDemon

Tuesday at 9:43 PM

If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

Tuesday at 9:59 PM

EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

Wednesday at 10:12 PM

WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

harshness

Yesterday at 11:18 AM

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 8:55 PM

harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

harshness

Today at 12:56 AM

EarDemon said:
Because it's what I prefer.

I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.

HipKat

Today at 7:24 AM

EarDemon said:
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style

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Former member 209992

Last reply Today at 6:03 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 3:39 PM

Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 3:42 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

WTF… …What the Foxbat!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:28 AM

zipping right along here

slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:29 AM

Foxbat said:
WTF… …What the Foxbat!

wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin

Foxbat

Today at 12:38 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you

I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:03 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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OMG to freaking funny :biggrin

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 6:02 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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bnewt

Sep 23, 2026

Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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ewindowman

Tuesday at 3:09 PM

Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.

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Almighty1

Tuesday at 9:52 PM

ewindowman said:
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.

Never had time to use the Hopper 3 account app yet. I also have a Hopper Plus so it's not the same as the Hopper 3 standalone. Will try it when I have more time, need to beat the taxes extension filing deadline first as I am still working on entering the data into the tax software.

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Almighty1

Wednesday at 6:49 AM

This is what I see when it comes to offers on My Account on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com:

AMC+ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
AMC+ Free for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
AMC+ 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Cine y Entretenimie 50% off for 3 months

DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

DISH Movie Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

DOGTV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Gallery First Month Free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Heartland Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Mexico y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

MGM+ $0.00/Month not saying how long (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Multi-Sport Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Netflix Standard with Ads, $7.99/month credit toward Netflix Standard with Ads ($.99) month with 24 month DISH commitment
(Only on My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Outdoor Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 50% off for three months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
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Playboy TV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Republica Dominicana 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

STARZ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
STARZ $1.99/month for 2 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Sudamerica y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

UP Faith & Family 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 11:45 PM

bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

look again mine says free for 1 month

Almighty1

Today at 2:13 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:02 AM

Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that

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Last reply Today at 5:56 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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AI Model Poisoning: The Hidden Threat on Hugging Face #shorts

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jannah

Last reply Today at 12:33 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Purchased Joey 4 avtivate

Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks

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jannah

Oct 7, 2026

All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 8, 2026

jannah said:
All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.

i bought mine straight from dish as it was only $ 100.00 bucks!!! had the protection plan they came out removed and deactivated the 4k joey and activated and installed the joey 4.

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zcrayfish

Monday at 1:08 PM

Solid signal has provided the wrong number on their website to activate Dish boxes for years now.

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Nominal

Monday at 5:45 PM

I don't know if things are different with Dish but when I first rejoined DirecTV a few years ago Solid Signal was able to create my account and activate the equipment I got from them on a self-install without a truck roll.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:30 AM

zcrayfish said:
Solid signal has provided the wrong number on their website to activate Dish boxes for years now.

1-800-333-3474. billing or tech support should be able to do it!!!

slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:33 AM

jannah said:
Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks

just call dish and iggy the number from solid signal!!

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