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Last reply Mar 1, 2019 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

AT&T Jan 30 8k

At December 31, 2018, Entertainment revenue connections included:
? Approximately 24.5 million video connections (including 1.6 million DIRECTV NOW subscribers) at December 31, 2018 compared to 25.2 million at December 31, 2017. During the fourth quarter of 2018, including the impact of losses of 267,000 from DIRECTV NOW, total video subscribers decreased 658,000. DIRECTV NOW net adds included approximately 65,000 on free or substantially free trials.
? Approximately 14.4 million broadband connections at December 31, 2018 compared to 14.4 million at December 31, 2017. During the fourth quarter, we added 6,000 IP broadband subscribers, for a total of 13.7 million at December 31, 2018. Total broadband subscribers decreased 32,000 in the quarter.
? Approximately 8.5 million wired voice connections at December 31, 2018 compared to 10.0 million at December 31, 2017. Voice connections include switched access lines and VoIP connections.

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Claude Greiner

Jan 31, 2019

The problem with Directv now is that they ended the 3 month for $10 offer.

You get a whole bunch of customers riding the wave and all your doing is churning through new customers as the free trial ends.

When they where heavily pushing it, all day we would get calls about getting Directv for $10.

The internet is a very serious threat to the entire pay Tv industry. The problem is 3 fold.

#1 we got the pirate services running on android boxes with illegal software. Dish has actually got the right approach to this by shutting then down by filing lawsuits.

#2 The content providers are to blame for making their content available online.

#3 Directv and especially Dish are to blame here for offering the content online. Of all companies who is NOT a traditional internet service provider, should not be offering content online.

The writing is on the wall. If traditional pay tv is going to survive, the major pay Tv providers that also provide internet (AT&T, Spectrum, Comcast) need to get together and adjust their internet packages to address streaming video.

The fact of the matter is the internet service providers are not going away, but once the cheap unlimited internet goes away and the price is adjusted to away with any savings from streaming then people won't mind going back to traditional pay Tv.

There is going to be a major correction to the market soon.

I for one are sick of seeing larger and larger discounts for new customers to hide the yearly price increases. The sports channels has really put the pricing out of hand.

Another interesting thing is that the lack of traditional pay Tv is going to kill the outrageous salaries for professional athletes.

If people can save $10-$15 getting rid of ESPN and their regional sports network they will drop it in a heartbeat

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slice1900

Jan 31, 2019

What really matters isn't a switch from cable/satellite to IP that's still in the same MVPD format with a bunch of live channels. Satellite will slowly decline and eventually end because it won't be worth the cost of replacing Directv's satellites when they begin to run out of fuel in ten years ago - probably sooner for Dish. Cable requires the same infrastructure for an internet only customer and an internet and TV customer so there aren't any provider savings to be had there at all but cable companies will go "all IP" because dividing their cable bandwidth up into 6 MHz channels is incredibly inefficient compared to DOCSIS 3.x which uses 192 MHz wide channels - effectively 40% more efficient without the wasted "guard bands" on the channel edges.

The cost of content is the same whether delivered by cable, by satellite or via IP if it is the same live channel model. People switching from Directv to Directv Now or Comcast to Sling may affect the profit of individual MVPDs but the content owners are still making money for whatever is in the packages people are subscribing to. They don't care how it is delivered, they get paid either way. For this reason they don't really consider someone getting Sling or Directv Now as a cord cutter - those customers still subscribe to a traditional MVPD, it is just delivered in a different manner.

What REALLY matters are people who leave that live channel model behind entirely. They are the ones who will affect the content owners bottom line, especially ESPN's. The problem they will need to solve in that post-MVPD world is account sharing. You can't really share a cable subscription with a friend and while it is possible with satellite it probably isn't too common or Directv/Dish would have taken obvious technical measures against it (tying receivers to a particular dish, for example) It is all too easy to account share with streaming, and it will be hard enough for content owners preserve revenue in a streaming world without every other "customer" actually being 2 or 3 customers living in different locations.

So far the streaming world has mostly ignored it, worrying more about growth than misuse, but a few years down the road they are going to start cracking down on it. There would be simple technical measures, like giving people a "dongle" they need to keep connected to their home network to authenticate their streams (or streams from any mobile devices that have been on the same local network in the past week) as the authorized user.

nelson61

Feb 26, 2019

From Seeking Alpha.

"AT&T has total assets of $531 billion and of that 58%, or $310 billion is in the form of goodwill and intangible assets"

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Jimbo

Feb 26, 2019

slice1900 said:
What really matters isn't a switch from cable/satellite to IP that's still in the same MVPD format with a bunch of live channels. Satellite will slowly decline and eventually end because it won't be worth the cost of replacing Directv's satellites when they begin to run out of fuel in ten years ago - probably sooner for Dish. Cable requires the same infrastructure for an internet only customer and an internet and TV customer so there aren't any provider savings to be had there at all but cable companies will go "all IP" because dividing their cable bandwidth up into 6 MHz channels is incredibly inefficient compared to DOCSIS 3.x which uses 192 MHz wide channels - effectively 40% more efficient without the wasted "guard bands" on the channel edges.

The cost of content is the same whether delivered by cable, by satellite or via IP if it is the same live channel model. People switching from Directv to Directv Now or Comcast to Sling may affect the profit of individual MVPDs but the content owners are still making money for whatever is in the packages people are subscribing to. They don't care how it is delivered, they get paid either way. For this reason they don't really consider someone getting Sling or Directv Now as a cord cutter - those customers still subscribe to a traditional MVPD, it is just delivered in a different manner.

What REALLY matters are people who leave that live channel model behind entirely. They are the ones who will affect the content owners bottom line, especially ESPN's. The problem they will need to solve in that post-MVPD world is account sharing. You can't really share a cable subscription with a friend and while it is possible with satellite it probably isn't too common or Directv/Dish would have taken obvious technical measures against it (tying receivers to a particular dish, for example) It is all too easy to account share with streaming, and it will be hard enough for content owners preserve revenue in a streaming world without every other "customer" actually being 2 or 3 customers living in different locations.

So far the streaming world has mostly ignored it, worrying more about growth than misuse, but a few years down the road they are going to start cracking down on it. There would be simple technical measures, like giving people a "dongle" they need to keep connected to their home network to authenticate their streams (or streams from any mobile devices that have been on the same local network in the past week) as the authorized user.

Only problem with the dongle idea or others you mentioned, is IF/When they start to crack down, people will just move on to the next option .... unless it happens with ALL companies at the same time, its gonna be hard to implement.

Jimbo

Feb 26, 2019

nelson61 said:
From Seeking Alpha.

"AT&T has total assets of $531 billion and of that 58%, or $310 billion is in the form of goodwill and intangible assets"

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Wish I had some of that "GOODWILL " ...

Joe The Dragon

Feb 26, 2019

Claude Greiner said:
The problem with Directv now is that they ended the 3 month for $10 offer.

#3 Directv and especially Dish are to blame here for offering the content online. Of all companies who is NOT a traditional internet service provider, should not be offering content online.

The writing is on the wall. If traditional pay tv is going to survive, the major pay Tv providers that also provide internet (AT&T, Spectrum, Comcast) need to get together and adjust their internet packages to address streaming video.

I for one are sick of seeing larger and larger discounts for new customers to hide the yearly price increases. The sports channels has really put the pricing out of hand.

Another interesting thing is that the lack of traditional pay Tv is going to kill the outrageous salaries for professional athletes.

If people can save $10-$15 getting rid of ESPN and their regional sports network they will drop it in a heartbeat

The own content and some of it high cost local sports also some may just cap you hard? and what if Disney wanted to try that forced bundles for intent-net?

NashGuy

Feb 26, 2019

slice1900 said:
What really matters isn't a switch from cable/satellite to IP that's still in the same MVPD format with a bunch of live channels. Satellite will slowly decline and eventually end because it won't be worth the cost of replacing Directv's satellites when they begin to run out of fuel in ten years ago - probably sooner for Dish. Cable requires the same infrastructure for an internet only customer and an internet and TV customer so there aren't any provider savings to be had there at all but cable companies will go "all IP" because dividing their cable bandwidth up into 6 MHz channels is incredibly inefficient compared to DOCSIS 3.x which uses 192 MHz wide channels - effectively 40% more efficient without the wasted "guard bands" on the channel edges.

The cost of content is the same whether delivered by cable, by satellite or via IP if it is the same live channel model. People switching from Directv to Directv Now or Comcast to Sling may affect the profit of individual MVPDs but the content owners are still making money for whatever is in the packages people are subscribing to. They don't care how it is delivered, they get paid either way. For this reason they don't really consider someone getting Sling or Directv Now as a cord cutter - those customers still subscribe to a traditional MVPD, it is just delivered in a different manner.

What REALLY matters are people who leave that live channel model behind entirely. They are the ones who will affect the content owners bottom line, especially ESPN's. The problem they will need to solve in that post-MVPD world is account sharing. You can't really share a cable subscription with a friend and while it is possible with satellite it probably isn't too common or Directv/Dish would have taken obvious technical measures against it (tying receivers to a particular dish, for example) It is all too easy to account share with streaming, and it will be hard enough for content owners preserve revenue in a streaming world without every other "customer" actually being 2 or 3 customers living in different locations.

So far the streaming world has mostly ignored it, worrying more about growth than misuse, but a few years down the road they are going to start cracking down on it. There would be simple technical measures, like giving people a "dongle" they need to keep connected to their home network to authenticate their streams (or streams from any mobile devices that have been on the same local network in the past week) as the authorized user.

I doubt that any of the OTT services will resort to issuing their own hardware to deal with the problem of account sharing (assuming they at some point see it as a problem). It could probably be addressed effectively enough, should they choose, through software/big data/AI:

Creepy Crackdown On Netflix Password Sharing May Be Coming Soon

Apart from that, yep, I agree with what you're saying. The big shift folks should think about isn't in how traditional cable channel packages (MVPDs) are distributed, going from cable and satellite to OTT apps (e.g. DTV Now, Sling TV, etc.). The big shift is to the "post-MVPD world," as you put it, in which content is distributed direct from the content owners to the customers via their own OTT apps.

It will be very interesting to see to what extent AT&T/WarnerMedia believes in that shift from MVPD to DTC (direct-to-consumer) when they launch their forthcoming DTC OTT service this fall. Will they be willing to cannibalize subscriptions to their traditional cable channels by, say, including new episodes of series from TBS, TNT, Cartoon Network and TruTV on the DTC service at the same time they premiere on the linear channels (the way HBO Now works) or the next day (the way Hulu works with shows from ABC, NBC and Fox)? Will they include a live stream of the CNN channels in this new service? How about including live streams of sports that air on TNT and TBS?

Or, on the other hand, will AT&T try to make this new service mainly complementary to their basic cable channels, so that if you really want all the current stuff that they have to offer, you'd need both an MVPD package plus this new service?

slice1900

Feb 27, 2019

Jimbo said:
Only problem with the dongle idea or others you mentioned, is IF/When they start to crack down, people will just move on to the next option .... unless it happens with ALL companies at the same time, its gonna be hard to implement.

The dongle would have to be a contractual mandate from content owners. Even if streaming companies decide they are willing to tolerate some account sharing if they believe it helps keep their customers around, the content owners might not want to give up that revenue. They are why we have HDCP, it was not the MVPDs who created it or began enforcing its use.

nelson61

Mar 1, 2019

the cell phone man running at&t was putting his thumb on the HBO boss.

The HBO boss is the guy creative talent really likes. He hugs, flatters, and picks up talent/shows viewers really like.

The HBO guy quit today.

I'm thinking at&t thinks entertainment is just another accounting type business line.

Not a good sign for their future.

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Last reply 41 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

DirecTV’s Subscribers Number

Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.

Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Jimbo

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

YouTube TV

raoul5788

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

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Arctic_fox

Today at 12:41 AM

Jimbo said:
YouTube TV

YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

dishrich

Today at 1:20 AM

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

It does still carry the NBC Sports branded RSN's, but obviously in those limited markets...

Jimbo

Today at 7:35 AM

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.

b4pjoe

41 minutes ago

raoul5788 said:
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

I see Fubo is getting the NBC Universal channels back. That will help them.

NBCUniversal Channels Like Telemundo and Bravo Are Returning to Fubo

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

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Yespage

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Last reply Today at 7:29 AM · posted in The Sports Section

FIFA World Cup of Horrors

Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!

I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.

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osu1991

Yesterday at 6:54 PM

I have no interest in watching it this year.

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Yespage

Today at 7:29 AM

Mexico resolvingly man handle South Africa. Three red cards. I think the second one was a bit soft, more like a very cynical yellow.

The US play Paraguay today, which to me is the critical game for this group stage. Paraguay is currently 40ish in the FIFA rankings. Their friendlies since qualification have been mixed, but they come out of South America, so, they can't be ignored.

The US team is ranked 17th. I'm uncertain why. They are 2-0-3 in their last five games.

A win for the US would be critical as it would be a message that they kind of belong in the tournament. We'll be finding out if Pochettino was indeed the right manager for this squad. He has done well with higher end mid-majors.

BlackHitachi

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 6:26 AM · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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osu1991

Saturday at 9:48 PM

Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

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dfergie

Sunday at 8:42 AM

osu1991 said:
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

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harshness

Tuesday at 9:58 AM

dfergie said:
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

dfergie

Tuesday at 10:07 AM

harshness said:
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.

osu1991

Wednesday at 9:56 PM

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3

Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.

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Wednesday at 10:45 PM

Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax

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teachtom

Last reply Today at 6:19 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 5:07 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:17 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:33 PM

RJT79 said:
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:39 PM

HipKat said:
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:17 PM

teachtom said:
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales

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Darrell S

Yesterday at 9:21 PM

I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

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teachtom

Today at 6:19 AM

Darrell S said:
I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

Thanks, I'll try that

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so2344

Last reply Today at 12:36 AM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Came back to DirectTV Satellite - Gemini question

Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.

DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

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FHSPSU67

Apr 25, 2026

First receiver should be free. It is for me.

b4pjoe

Apr 25, 2026

FHSPSU67 said:
First receiver should be free. It is for me.

It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

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so2344

May 11, 2026

b4pjoe said:
It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

All of this makes me want to cancel satellite again! Customer service said we were getting billed for an old receiver but the call got cut off.

Will call back and try to get this resolved. As of now, only one TV can access satellite service. Would hope they can send another Gemini to be co-located w the main HR54.

so2344

May 28, 2026

Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

Arctic_fox

Today at 12:36 AM

so2344 said:
Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

this is why we canceled support and the csr's are garbage even the american ones. it's still under the att system!!!

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:07 AM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Purchasing New iPhone

I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.

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navychop

Yesterday at 11:48 PM

I know of no reason to buy from a cell company.

Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.

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Foxbat

Today at 12:07 AM

I got a carrier-locked iPhone once, and it was a pain after they got bought by Sprint and I decided to go to T-Mobile and they dragged their feet to unlock the phone. I have been trading in my iPhones since and buying from the Apple Store since then.

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Cactus Jack

Last reply Yesterday at 11:50 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Three Tuners?

I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.

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Cactus Jack

Jun 3, 2026

So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

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Bobby

Jun 3, 2026

Cactus Jack said:
So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

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navychop

Jun 3, 2026

Cough, cough, Hopper3!

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Cactus Jack

Jun 5, 2026

Bobby said:
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

Thanks, Bobby.

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 11:50 PM

chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.

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iJustine

Yesterday at 10:52 PM · posted in iJustine