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Hello all! I've been scouring this board and other sources trying to get a handle on what I need to get into FTA. I still have several questions, but one specific area is with the dishes. Below is a reflection of my current understanding. Would anyone care to clarify or correct these points?
Single satellite
Multiple satellites
Okay, assuming I'm on the right track, I have the following questions.
I am comfortable with dish aiming, having done several Dish Network and one DirecTV install. I currently have a dishpro 110/119 and 61.5 installation. I'm amazed at the comments I get about "all those dishes" - yeah, both of them! Even so, I'm a neat freak and like my hobbies to be cleanly installed and minimally noticeable where ever possible. One of my neighbors wonders how I can have two young children and no TV (I have a projector and pull-down screen). That's how I like it!
I also have put a lot of effort and expense into my mobile ham rigs to make them out-of-sight as much as possible and to make the visible portions look as professional/factory-installed as possible.
Now that you know that, what would you recommend for someone with my idiosyncrasies as far as a FTA installation goes? How many satellites (i.e. linear LNBFs) should I initially plan for in addition to the 110/119/61.5 (circular LNBFs) I am currently viewing? Basically, how can I balance the trade-off between number of dishes and maximizing viewable satellites. Those toroidal dishes seem to be the answer, but I've read nothing good about the T55 and can only assume the T90 is only marginally better.
In a nutshell, I want it all and in one box with minimal dishes. If there was a way to legally use my Nagra2 Dish card in an all-in-one box, I would be all over it. I will not go so far as a hack. I know that kind of discussion is not allowed here and I want no part of it anyway.
Anyone want to educate me or point me to a thread I may have missed that addresses these issues?
Thanks,
RedSavina
Single satellite
- One dish with one LNBF viewing one satellite
Multiple satellites
- Multiple dishes, each with one LNBF viewing one satellite
- One dish with one LNBF and a rotor capable of viewing various satellites
- Multiple dishes with multiple LNBFs and a rotor capable of viewing various satellites
- One dish with multiple LNBFs mounted such that they are each viewing a different satellite
Okay, assuming I'm on the right track, I have the following questions.
- When choosing a dish solution with a fixed LNBF (i.e. dedicated view of a particular satellite), are delays in switching channels essentially non-existent and based only on the receiver's capability?
- When choosing a dish solution with multiple fixed LNBFs, are delays in switching channels the same as above plus a minimal delay for switching?
- When choosing a dish solution using rotors, how much additional delay is added to channel switching?
I am comfortable with dish aiming, having done several Dish Network and one DirecTV install. I currently have a dishpro 110/119 and 61.5 installation. I'm amazed at the comments I get about "all those dishes" - yeah, both of them! Even so, I'm a neat freak and like my hobbies to be cleanly installed and minimally noticeable where ever possible. One of my neighbors wonders how I can have two young children and no TV (I have a projector and pull-down screen). That's how I like it!
I also have put a lot of effort and expense into my mobile ham rigs to make them out-of-sight as much as possible and to make the visible portions look as professional/factory-installed as possible. Now that you know that, what would you recommend for someone with my idiosyncrasies as far as a FTA installation goes? How many satellites (i.e. linear LNBFs) should I initially plan for in addition to the 110/119/61.5 (circular LNBFs) I am currently viewing? Basically, how can I balance the trade-off between number of dishes and maximizing viewable satellites. Those toroidal dishes seem to be the answer, but I've read nothing good about the T55 and can only assume the T90 is only marginally better.
In a nutshell, I want it all and in one box with minimal dishes.
If there was a way to legally use my Nagra2 Dish card in an all-in-one box, I would be all over it. I will not go so far as a hack. I know that kind of discussion is not allowed here and I want no part of it anyway. Anyone want to educate me or point me to a thread I may have missed that addresses these issues?
Thanks,
RedSavina
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Tron said:time. I personally have three dishes... a motorized Winegard 30", a fixed 1 meter Channel Master (aimed at Galaxy 10 at 123w), and a Toroidal 90, which will hit a number of satellites east of Galaxy 10 across the arc at one time.
Remember, the deeper you go into this hobby, the more you'll spend and the more addicted you'll become
Why the stationary at 123w?
Sounds like something I might have to do. I was doing some tweaking last night and got 80+ signals on extreme left of the arc and 80+ signals on the extreme right of the arc. I was grinning ear to ear then I went to 123w and say the 40% quality signals. I tweaked it a little bit to 80+ then went back to SBS6 and got 40%. Tweaked a little more and then lost it all so I gave up for the night. These little 36inch dishes are touchy..... that 10foot BUD I had 10 years ago was definately easier!
R
Uh-Oh... Just found the miniBUD thread!
Wow, I found the miniBUD thread earlier today (see thread #70314; I don't have URL-posting privileges yet - sorry
).
It took a while to read all 26 pages, but was well worth it. Now that advice for a 120cm dish is looking better! I'm seriously considering this for my initial purchase/installation with a mind toward experimenting with C band after I conquer the initial learning curve for FTA.
One other thing in the miniBUD thread caught my eye: HDTV! Too bad those high-def capable FTA receivers are so pricey.
Cheers,
Red
Wow, I found the miniBUD thread earlier today (see thread #70314; I don't have URL-posting privileges yet - sorry
). It took a while to read all 26 pages, but was well worth it. Now that advice for a 120cm dish is looking better! I'm seriously considering this for my initial purchase/installation with a mind toward experimenting with C band after I conquer the initial learning curve for FTA.
One other thing in the miniBUD thread caught my eye: HDTV! Too bad those high-def capable FTA receivers are so pricey.
Cheers,
Red
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Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
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To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit 
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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