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DirecTV Q1 2019 Results - 627,000 Net Loss Subs (DirecTV & Directv Now)

AT&T Reports First-Quarter Results

AT&T Reports First-Quarter Results

First-Quarter Consolidated Results

Diluted EPS of $0.56 as reported compared to $0.75 in the year-ago quarter
Adjusted EPS of $0.86 compared to $0.85 in the year-ago quarter
Consolidated revenues of $44.8 billion
Cash from operations of $11.1 billion, up 24%
Capital expenditures of $5.2 billion
Free cash flow of $5.9 billion

Note: AT&T's first-quarter earnings conference call will be webcast at 8:30 a.m. ET on Wednesday, April 24, 2019. The webcast and related materials will be available on AT&T's Investor Relations website at NYSE:T) is a diversified, global leader in telecommunications, media and entertainment, and technology. It executes in the market under four operating units. WarnerMedia's HBO, Turner and Warner Bros. divisions are world leaders in creating premium content, operate one of the world's largest TV and film studios, and own a world-class library of entertainment. AT&T Communications provides more than 100 million U.S. consumers with entertainment and communications experiences across TV, mobile and broadband services. Plus, it serves nearly 3 million business customers with high-speed, highly secure connectivity and smart solutions. AT&T Latin America provides pay-TV services across 11 countries and territories in Latin America and the Caribbean, and is the fastest growing wireless provider in Mexico, serving consumers and businesses. Xandr provides marketers with innovative and relevant advertising solutions for consumers around premium video content and digital advertising through its AppNexus platform.

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This news release may contain certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations between the non-GAAP financial measures and the GAAP financial measures are available on the company's website at https://investors.att.com.

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SpaethCo

Apr 25, 2019

Juan said:
you failed to mention how much it costs to build a satellite

The satellite build cost is depreciated over its expected service life and factored into the reported satellite transmission costs.

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nelson61

Apr 25, 2019

SpaethCo said:
The satellite build cost is depreciated over its expected service life and factored into the reported satellite transmission costs.

Look up how much electricity the data centers use. It will blow your mind.

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Inclined Orbit

Apr 25, 2019

The wee little Directv uplink facility I worked at consumed around 1 MWh when I left 5yrs ago. Probably more now.

nelson61 said:
Look up how much electricity the data centers use. It will blow your mind.

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Claude Greiner

Apr 27, 2019

One thing I just thought of.

When I first started in this business 22 years ago the key service was Tv and people then wanted a home phone.

You do a new satellite install and the big deal was hooking receivers to phone lines which EVERY customer had at the time.

People had cell phones, but they where primarily kept in the car and used in emergencies as most of the plans where per minute.

As cell phones became more popular, the first thing that went away was the home phone.

Not everyone wanted internet at this point, but with traditional pots lines costing upwards of $70/mo the cost savings getting rid of the home telephone went to pay for higher cell phone bills and the ever increasing Tv service cost.

As more and more people got internet, the typical household subscribed to atleast 1 streaming service such as Netflix.

But the reason why video is becoming unpopular is because in most households the cell phone bill comes first, followed by internet service, then Tv, and then a home phone.

Even though cell phone rates are generally going down, the cost of the phones go up and if you have the latest iPhone, your paying $50 per month just in the finance charges.

The cell phone bill is what's replacing the traditional Tv bill

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goaliebob99

Apr 28, 2019

Inclined Orbit said:
The wee little Directv uplink facility I worked at consumed around 1 MWh when I left 5yrs ago. Probably more now.

I doubt it. I know where I'm at the power consumption has dramatically decreased as more efficient encoding systems have been installed to replace older and much more power hungry systems. Even the monitoring that was once used is gone for a much more efficient way of monitoring. Over the past few years, there has been a huge incentive to decrease power consumption and now there are times where you have to worry about too little draw happening causing issues. What used to take up the entire facility, now takes up 1/4 of the facility if not 1/8th of what it was 5 years ago.

That's including the power draw that the amps take. It's getting to the point where you will have no compression gear in any of these facilities and all you will have is the modulators, BUC's and AMP's (RF gear).

slice1900

Apr 28, 2019

goaliebob99 said:
I doubt it. I know where I'm at the power consumption has dramatically decreased as more efficient encoding systems have been installed to replace older and much more power hungry systems. Even the monitoring that was once used is gone for a much more efficient way of monitoring. Over the past few years, there has been a huge incentive to decrease power consumption and now there are times where you have to worry about too little draw happening causing issues. What used to take up the entire facility, now takes up 1/4 of the facility if not 1/8th of what it was 5 years ago.

That's including the power draw that the amps take. It's getting to the point where you will have no compression gear in any of these facilities and all you will have is the modulators, BUC's and AMP's (RF gear).

I saw some pictures from inside one of Directv's broadcast centers like five years ago and they had a monitor for every single channel. Are they doing something different now, maybe have 4x4 for 16 channels per LCD monitor or have they replaced that 'human eyes' monitoring entirely with technology?

DS0816

May 5, 2019

Claude Greiner said:
One thing I just thought of.

When I first started in this business 22 years ago the key service was Tv and people then wanted a home phone.

You do a new satellite install and the big deal was hooking receivers to phone lines which EVERY customer had at the time.

People had cell phones, but they where primarily kept in the car and used in emergencies as most of the plans where per minute.

As cell phones became more popular, the first thing that went away was the home phone.

Not everyone wanted internet at this point, but with traditional pots lines costing upwards of $70/mo the cost savings getting rid of the home telephone went to pay for higher cell phone bills and the ever increasing Tv service cost.

As more and more people got internet, the typical household subscribed to atleast 1 streaming service such as Netflix.

But the reason why video is becoming unpopular is because in most households the cell phone bill comes first, followed by internet service, then Tv, and then a home phone.

Even though cell phone rates are generally going down, the cost of the phones go up and if you have the latest iPhone, your paying $50 per month just in the finance charges.

The cell phone bill is what's replacing the traditional Tv bill

There is also economics. And that also goes to politics. It is life here in the United States.

We have problems with incomes. Half the people, who are employed, are earning around $30,000 or less per year.

Things are out of whack. For television, for a lot of people, to be over $100 per month—and for their incomes to not go up sufficiently—they are finding themselves not willing to continue putting up with the high costs for cable television.

So, there is a prioritization. And it is very personal. It cannot be otherwise. So, you mentioned those priorities. Among them is that the Internet is more important than television (that is cable television) for people.

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Don in CT

May 5, 2019

DS0816 said:
There is also economics. And that also goes to politics. It is life here in the United States.

We have problems with incomes. Half the people, who are employed, are earning around $30,000 or less per year.

Things are out of whack. For television, for a lot of people, to be over $100 per month—and for their incomes to not go up sufficiently—they are finding themselves not willing to continue putting up with the high costs for cable television.

So, there is a prioritization. And it is very personal. It cannot be otherwise. So, you mentioned those priorities. Among them is that the Internet is more important than television (that is cable television) for people.

The internet has become a necessity, right up there with a cell phone. Everything else is expendable now.

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goaliebob99

May 6, 2019

slice1900 said:
I saw some pictures from inside one of Directv's broadcast centers like five years ago and they had a monitor for every single channel. Are they doing something different now, maybe have 4x4 for 16 channels per LCD monitor or have they replaced that 'human eyes' monitoring entirely with technology?

Yes, because everything is all IP now, it's all monitored over the network. There are probes in place at various points in the network that monitor the IP flows of channels assigned to the probe and when something isn't right an alarm is generated alerting whoever (hopefully a human) at the technical operations center to the issue. Encoders and other gear are also monitored for alarms. Anything that's on a monitor now is primarily used for confidence and troubleshooting issues. (At least from where I'm at.) You dont need human eyes on it really any more other than to troubleshoot issues and once issues do pop up, the alarms will alert you so you can respond and correct any issues. It's actually more efficient this way, and I'm sure saves AT&T a ton of cash. A human is still involved because issues can pop up at any time, but can troubleshoot from anywhere in the network. While I cant get into too many details by nature of the beast, a lot of it is moving to a cloud-based infrastructure as the video is no longer HDSDI or ASI like it was 5-10 years ago, but is now strictly multicast video over the network for both monitoring and production.

Simply put the way we do video now is far more efficient than how we did it 5 years ago, and even now we're moving to an even more efficient platform. All of these separate platforms from mergers are now being merged into a single platform that will allow AT&T to use the same feed for everything. Uverse, DirecTV NOW, Osprey, DirecTV Satellite. I dont see AT&T spinning off DirecTV because of this and the benefits to this is ATT is now more efficient as they are only maintaining a single piece of encoding gear, versus multiple ones at every point of presence they need video. While this is great for the company and investors, I'm not sure how it will fair for me in the future and has been the big question mark over the past 2 years with the ongoing reduction in forces that have happened. Either way, the best thing I can do is keep a positive attitude and hope for the best. AT&T is a good company overall even with its quirks.

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raoul5788

May 6, 2019

Don in CT said:
The internet has become a necessity, right up there with a cell phone. Everything else is expendable now.

I have several friends that don't have internet, get their TV ota, and don't even have a cell phone. They are all in their 60s.

Don in CT

May 6, 2019

raoul5788 said:
I have several friends that don't have internet, get their TV ota, and don't even have a cell phone. They are all in their 60s.

I think that's the reason, older people are not likely to have either. But if you are under 50 you most likely don't have a landline anymore. Rely on Netflix and a smartphone.

EarDemon

May 6, 2019

Don in CT said:
I think that's the reason, older people are not likely to have either. But if you are under 50 you most likely don't have a landline anymore. Rely on Netflix and a smartphone.

I'm in my mid-30s, only have Netflix since I'm a T-Mobile subscriber, haven't logged on to it since December though. Have a landline since since there's poor cell phone reception where I live, plus I find talking on smartphones uncomfortable. Two years ago I was without a cell phone for almost a week while I sold my Nexus 6P to eBay and was awaiting my Pixel XL to arrive. Awesome week! I forgot how free you are without having that damn digital dog chain around. Most of the time my phone stays in my car or on my desk at work. If I forget my phone at work, no big deal, it will be there in the morning. I feel incredibly lucky to have grown up in the 80s and 90s, being one of the last ones to have a real childhood and to have all of this technology pushed on us and poison us.

If having mobile email and RDP capability wasn't a requirement for work, I don't think I'd even have a smartphone anymore. Might not have a cell phone period.

My aunt and uncle who are in their late 60s don't have cell phones, never have, never will. They don't even allow them in their house. We'll they don't allow use of them. If they see you with one, they'll either tell you to put it away or leave. Their school of thought is if you come over to visit, you visit with them. If you are bored and need something else to entertain you, or are having a conversation with someone else, then you are welcome to leave. And I 100% agree. A couple of my friends would come over and spend most of their time on Facebook or Twitter. After three times of this happening I blocked those sites and a few others on my home network. Again, if I bore you, you are free to leave, but I will not allow that trash in my home.

How many stories are reported every summer of so called parents forgetting about their young kids in a locked car? Or the so called mom that forgot her newborn at the airport a couple of months ago. You know what these people probably didn't forget? Their smartphone.

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navychop

May 6, 2019

Texting does not interrupt the recipient's day as much as a phone call. The text can be read at leisure. Time is available for research. And there is a written record.

To really blow your mind, try Viber.
: devilish

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Inclined Orbit

May 6, 2019

5 yrs ago when I worked there the automated monitoring at that time could not detect intermittent problems like brief but ongoing audio or video glitches, that could go on for hours until a human actually saw it on a monitor. These might be problems in the audio/video before compression. What does DTV/ATT have now that is different and can it can catch those brief but ongoing issues? I and most of my friends see much more freezing, artifacting and lip sync issues on DTV than we did 5yrs ago, so something has changed.

The IP probes we used back then were used to find IP or router related problems and they could not detect audio/video problems within the stream.

goaliebob99 said:
Yes, because everything is all IP now, it's all monitored over the network. There are probes in place at various points in the network that monitor the IP flows of channels assigned to the probe and when something isn't right an alarm is generated alerting whoever (hopefully a human) at the technical operations center to the issue. Encoders and other gear are also monitored for alarms. Anything that's on a monitor now is primarily used for confidence and troubleshooting issues. (At least from where I'm at.) You dont need human eyes on it really any more other than to troubleshoot issues and once issues do pop up, the alarms will alert you so you can respond and correct any issues. It's actually more efficient this way, and I'm sure saves AT&T a ton of cash. A human is still involved because issues can pop up at any time, but can troubleshoot from anywhere in the network. While I cant get into too many details by nature of the beast, a lot of it is moving to a cloud-based infrastructure as the video is no longer HDSDI or ASI like it was 5-10 years ago, but is now strictly multicast video over the network for both monitoring and production.

Simply put the way we do video now is far more efficient than how we did it 5 years ago, and even now we're moving to an even more efficient platform. All of these separate platforms from mergers are now being merged into a single platform that will allow AT&T to use the same feed for everything. Uverse, DirecTV NOW, Osprey, DirecTV Satellite. I dont see AT&T spinning off DirecTV because of this and the benefits to this is ATT is now more efficient as they are only maintaining a single piece of encoding gear, versus multiple ones at every point of presence they need video. While this is great for the company and investors, I'm not sure how it will fair for me in the future and has been the big question mark over the past 2 years with the ongoing reduction in forces that have happened. Either way, the best thing I can do is keep a positive attitude and hope for the best. AT&T is a good company overall even with its quirks.

goaliebob99

May 7, 2019

Inclined Orbit said:
5 yrs ago when I worked there the automated monitoring at that time could not detect intermittent problems like brief but ongoing audio or video glitches, that could go on for hours until a human actually saw it on a monitor. These might be problems in the audio/video before compression. What does DTV/ATT have now that is different and can it can catch those brief but ongoing issues? I and most of my friends see much more freezing, artifacting and lip sync issues on DTV than we did 5yrs ago, so something has changed.

The IP probes we used back then were used to find IP or router related problems and they could not detect audio/video problems within the stream.

The video is gathered is more efficient now because the issues are now seen in realtime, and video is no longer being encoded across the network but locally. Instead, full ATSC streams are sent to centralized points where they are encoded, muxed and the video is processed before uplinked. In the future, the regional uplinks won't have any encoding gear at all. Everything is now about metrics and all that data is gathered. The blips you see are not issues with the uplink but are mostly IRD issues, especially with the HS17. (No secret)

The entire monitoring system was overhauled in the past few years and is now exclusively IP monitoring over the network, and the capabilities are now much better even though it had growing pains. This allows us to see PAT, PMT, PCR, Transport errors in real time. Including any network errors. We can see all of those errors at every point in the entire uplink chain from the incoming, to our encoder, to our mux's, ect and can track down if it's an incoming issue or something else in real time. The tools we have are much better than what we had 5 years ago, by far. AI is a great thing when used correctly.

If you want to learn more about probes and what they can do today, you should check out this link.It's only one tool of many that we now have and it is much more than IP and router-related problems. Everything can be detected in real time and the metrics of it is being gathered. It's pretty crazy but when you can find trends to help save money, it tends to push what gets implemented.

https://www.telestream.net/pdfs/iq/productsheets/cVOC_Datasheet_0416-1.pdf

Juan

May 7, 2019

How about party lines?

raoul5788 said:
I have several friends that don't have internet, get their TV ota, and don't even have a cell phone. They are all in their 60s.

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Juan

May 7, 2019

Sounds like you were born a decade too late lol

EarDemon said:
I'm in my mid-30s, only have Netflix since I'm a T-Mobile subscriber, haven't logged on to it since December though. Have a landline since since there's poor cell phone reception where I live, plus I find talking on smartphones uncomfortable. Two years ago I was without a cell phone for almost a week while I sold my Nexus 6P to eBay and was awaiting my Pixel XL to arrive. Awesome week! I forgot how free you are without having that damn digital dog chain around. Most of the time my phone stays in my car or on my desk at work. If I forget my phone at work, no big deal, it will be there in the morning. I feel incredibly lucky to have grown up in the 80s and 90s, being one of the last ones to have a real childhood and to have all of this technology pushed on us and poison us.

If having mobile email and RDP capability wasn't a requirement for work, I don't think I'd even have a smartphone anymore. Might not have a cell phone period.

My aunt and uncle who are in their late 60s don't have cell phones, never have, never will. They don't even allow them in their house. We'll they don't allow use of them. If they see you with one, they'll either tell you to put it away or leave. Their school of thought is if you come over to visit, you visit with them. If you are bored and need something else to entertain you, or are having a conversation with someone else, then you are welcome to leave. And I 100% agree. A couple of my friends would come over and spend most of their time on Facebook or Twitter. After three times of this happening I blocked those sites and a few others on my home network. Again, if I bore you, you are free to leave, but I will not allow that trash in my home.

How many stories are reported every summer of so called parents forgetting about their young kids in a locked car? Or the so called mom that forgot her newborn at the airport a couple of months ago. You know what these people probably didn't forget? Their smartphone.

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DS0816

May 7, 2019

EarDemon said:
My aunt and uncle who are in their late 60s don't have cell phones, never have, never will.

You should not assume that.

My father, at age 82, got his first cell phone, a basic phone, in 2014.

My aunt, at age 72, got her first cell phone, an iPhone, in 2015.

Why (with both) did that happen?

It is because the monthly costs of the landline—that is, the basic level (before long-distance calls and other miscellaneous charges)—made it no longer worth maintaining.

They both needed to make the change, as well, because of being out anywhere and having a phone on them. An elderly person driving somewhere, and the car breaking down, appreciates not having to be stranded without being able to communicate.

You can't make an assumption that your aunt and uncle—even if they tell you so—would "never" get cell phones.

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nelson61

May 7, 2019

navychop said:
Texting does not interrupt the recipient's day as much as a phone call. The text can be read at leisure. Time is available for research. And there is a written record.

To really blow your mind, try Viber.
: devilish

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I like texting. I shut off all my voice mail systems and if someone wants to contact me, they can text me. gets rid of a lot of trash calls.

Telegram is my go to text and phone app with it's seamless and simultaneous cross networking between/phone/desktop/tablet.

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Inclined Orbit

May 7, 2019

I will still say that myself and all of my friends with DTV, one who is a dealer with lots of IRDs running all the time have seen a big increase in glitches, freezing and lip sync issues over the last 3 to 5 yrs. I'm real familiar with how things work as part of my job was finding and fixing these problems at the uplink. The most reliable times I remember were way back when there were human eyeballs on monitors 24/7 and no automation. The first wave of automated monitoring maybe around 2012 let lots of glitches through and problems could go for hours before finally being discovered by humans looking at a monitor.

Going back 10yrs or so the availability to customers was around 99.97% including provider problems, equipment problems, rain fade and human error. Any idea what the average availability is today? Its a closely guarded number, but you can tell me....

goaliebob99 said:
The video is gathered is more efficient now because the issues are now seen in realtime, and video is no longer being encoded across the network but locally. Instead, full ATSC streams are sent to centralized points where they are encoded, muxed and the video is processed before uplinked. In the future, the regional uplinks won't have any encoding gear at all. Everything is now about metrics and all that data is gathered. The blips you see are not issues with the uplink but are mostly IRD issues, especially with the HS17. (No secret)

The entire monitoring system was overhauled in the past few years and is now exclusively IP monitoring over the network, and the capabilities are now much better even though it had growing pains. This allows us to see PAT, PMT, PCR, Transport errors in real time. Including any network errors. We can see all of those errors at every point in the entire uplink chain from the incoming, to our encoder, to our mux's, ect and can track down if it's an incoming issue or something else in real time. The tools we have are much better than what we had 5 years ago, by far. AI is a great thing when used correctly.

If you want to learn more about probes and what they can do today, you should check out this link.It's only one tool of many that we now have and it is much more than IP and router-related problems. Everything can be detected in real time and the metrics of it is being gathered. It's pretty crazy but when you can find trends to help save money, it tends to push what gets implemented.

https://www.telestream.net/pdfs/iq/productsheets/cVOC_Datasheet_0416-1.pdf

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DirecTV’s Subscribers Number

Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.

Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Jimbo

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

YouTube TV

raoul5788

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

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Arctic_fox

Today at 12:41 AM

Jimbo said:
YouTube TV

YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

dishrich

Today at 1:20 AM

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

It does still carry the NBC Sports branded RSN's, but obviously in those limited markets...

Jimbo

Today at 7:35 AM

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.

b4pjoe

21 minutes ago

raoul5788 said:
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

I see Fubo is getting the NBC Universal channels back. That will help them.

NBCUniversal Channels Like Telemundo and Bravo Are Returning to Fubo

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Yespage

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Today at 7:29 AM · posted in The Sports Section

FIFA World Cup of Horrors

Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!

I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.

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osu1991

Yesterday at 6:54 PM

I have no interest in watching it this year.

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Yespage

Today at 7:29 AM

Mexico resolvingly man handle South Africa. Three red cards. I think the second one was a bit soft, more like a very cynical yellow.

The US play Paraguay today, which to me is the critical game for this group stage. Paraguay is currently 40ish in the FIFA rankings. Their friendlies since qualification have been mixed, but they come out of South America, so, they can't be ignored.

The US team is ranked 17th. I'm uncertain why. They are 2-0-3 in their last five games.

A win for the US would be critical as it would be a message that they kind of belong in the tournament. We'll be finding out if Pochettino was indeed the right manager for this squad. He has done well with higher end mid-majors.

BlackHitachi

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 6:26 AM · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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osu1991

Saturday at 9:48 PM

Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

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dfergie

Sunday at 8:42 AM

osu1991 said:
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

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harshness

Tuesday at 9:58 AM

dfergie said:
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

dfergie

Tuesday at 10:07 AM

harshness said:
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.

osu1991

Wednesday at 9:56 PM

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3

Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.

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dfergie

Wednesday at 10:45 PM

Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax

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teachtom

Last reply Today at 6:19 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 5:07 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:17 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:33 PM

RJT79 said:
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:39 PM

HipKat said:
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:17 PM

teachtom said:
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales

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Darrell S

Yesterday at 9:21 PM

I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

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teachtom

Today at 6:19 AM

Darrell S said:
I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

Thanks, I'll try that

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so2344

Last reply Today at 12:36 AM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Came back to DirectTV Satellite - Gemini question

Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.

DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

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FHSPSU67

Apr 25, 2026

First receiver should be free. It is for me.

b4pjoe

Apr 25, 2026

FHSPSU67 said:
First receiver should be free. It is for me.

It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

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so2344

May 11, 2026

b4pjoe said:
It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

All of this makes me want to cancel satellite again! Customer service said we were getting billed for an old receiver but the call got cut off.

Will call back and try to get this resolved. As of now, only one TV can access satellite service. Would hope they can send another Gemini to be co-located w the main HR54.

so2344

May 28, 2026

Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

Arctic_fox

Today at 12:36 AM

so2344 said:
Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

this is why we canceled support and the csr's are garbage even the american ones. it's still under the att system!!!

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:07 AM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Purchasing New iPhone

I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.

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navychop

Yesterday at 11:48 PM

I know of no reason to buy from a cell company.

Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.

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Foxbat

Today at 12:07 AM

I got a carrier-locked iPhone once, and it was a pain after they got bought by Sprint and I decided to go to T-Mobile and they dragged their feet to unlock the phone. I have been trading in my iPhones since and buying from the Apple Store since then.

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Cactus Jack

Last reply Yesterday at 11:50 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Three Tuners?

I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.

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Cactus Jack

Jun 3, 2026

So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

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Bobby

Jun 3, 2026

Cactus Jack said:
So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

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navychop

Jun 3, 2026

Cough, cough, Hopper3!

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Cactus Jack

Jun 5, 2026

Bobby said:
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

Thanks, Bobby.

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 11:50 PM

chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.

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iJustine

Yesterday at 10:52 PM · posted in iJustine

Good Bye, Tim! Last WWDC 🥹

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YJjxjYvmQ8s

Direct YouTube Link - Good Bye, Tim! Last WWDC

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Smuuth

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Yesterday at 10:15 PM · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

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b4pjoe

Jun 2, 2026

Smuuth said:
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

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Smuuth

Jun 2, 2026

b4pjoe said:
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

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Jimbo

Jun 3, 2026

Smuuth said:
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

Take the $10 and Call Back ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:22 AM

Jimbo said:
Take the $10 and Call Back ...

I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

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Jimbo

Monday at 10:39 AM

Smuuth said:
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.

I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:44 AM

Jimbo said:
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.

According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

Jimbo

Monday at 10:45 AM

Smuuth said:
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:48 AM

Jimbo said:
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.

Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

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Smuuth

Yesterday at 10:09 PM

Arctic_fox said:
Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:12 PM

Smuuth said:
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

a tablo box is cheaper

Amazon.com

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:15 PM

why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?

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