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Jeffrey Johnson

Last reply Aug 11, 2019 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Getting rid of Directv, looking to get a big dish

I am on the outskirts of reliably receiving over the air channels. Directv has my local ABC channel disputed and unavailable. I couldn't watch my NFL game tonight because NFL channel blacked out the game because it is on the local channel, that they made unavailable. WOW.
Will I be able to get local broadcast channels on the large dishes, and can I pay for some channels too? Like FoxNews? Netflix and other streaming venues take care of different shows for me. So, the main reason for the dish is watching football. Is it worth it?
What dish, receiver, cables... should I buy? And where should I get them? Should I install myself?

Thanks!

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ancient

Aug 9, 2019

Jeffrey Johnson said:
I am on the outskirts of reliably receiving over the air channels. Directv has my local ABC channel disputed and unavailable. I couldn't watch my NFL game tonight because NFL channel blacked out the game because it is on the local channel, that they made unavailable. WOW.
Will I be able to get local broadcast channels on the large dishes, and can I pay for some channels too? Like FoxNews? Netflix and other streaming venues take care of different shows for me. So, the main reason for the dish is watching football. Is it worth it?
What dish, receiver, cables... should I buy? And where should I get them? Should I install myself?

Thanks!

You cannot receive pay channels at all because although many of them are up there on the satellites, they are encrypted. As for news channels, many can be viewed on their Internet sites, or at least selected content can be viewed, perhaps with a time delay, but not off satellite. I particularly doubt that you will be able to find the specific "news" channel you are wanting without paying, however there are others available that are easier to watch (particularly online) but they won't let you live in your preferred echo chamber so you probably wouldn't like them. I know from time to time MSNBC pops up on one of the NBC feed channels but that's probably anathema to you, and I think those are on Ku band anyway. As for the networks, the major ones are up there (for now, anyway) but they are making them increasingly hard to receive in real time on consumer-grade receivers. Of the four major networks, one transmits in 4:2:2 format which most consumer grade satellite receivers can't decode in real time, another is going to transition to a similar format later this month and I'm not sure about that one, then another one has a funky sound mapping on most of its transponders (except for one local affiliate) and the final one is only available though one remaining local affiliate that's still on C-band (a better one was available but it went away a few months ago).

Some of these issues can be overcome by running a dedicated satellite TV backend system on a PC using satellite tuner cards, however this is much more expensive than buying a cheap receiver, and also requires much more technical knowledge to operate, and works best if you have multiple C-band dishes that are each pointed at a particular satellite rather than just one moveable dish. And you have to run backend software such as Tvheadend under Linux, or MediaPortal under Windows; there are others but those are two I know of. And then you have to have at least one frontend system running something like Kodi or VLC in order to be able to watch content from your backend. You can run the backend and one frontend on the same computer, but the more complex it gets the more you have to learn, and none of this is a "take it out of the box, connect the cables and start watching" experience; there's a significant learning curve!

I am not trying to discourage you from getting into the satellite hobby; far from it. But when you ask questions like "Should I install myself?", I wonder if you realize what you are getting into. In many areas of the country the ONLY option is to install yourself, since most of the people who used to install C-band dishes have gone out of business and/or retired. If you are lucky and ask around you might find an older guy that used to install C-band dishes back in the day and is still willing to do one, and if you are REALLY lucky there will still be an installer actively in business near you somewhere. Unfortunately the worst part of installing a C-band system is erecting and pointing the dish; there are several considerations there alone. So if you have no idea how to do it, or where to put a dish on your property (it matters), then you really should consider using a satellite installer if you can find one that's still in business or willing to temporarily come out of retirement.

If you wind up having to do it yourself then the first thing I would do is check your local library and see if they have any books from back in the 80's on how to install a satellite TV system. Ignore the parts about equipment (all of that's old analog stuff that won't work with today's digital signals) and available channels (they've pretty much all moved or gone dark), what you want to find is the section on how to aim a dish, including how to erect the pole, etc. If you can understand that and successfully erect and point your dish then the rest is comparatively a piece of cake.

Finally, you should be aware that from time to time even the major networks will scramble their signals, particularly for major sporting events such as NFL football. But what is ironic about that is that sometimes the very same game will be available in the clear on a network from one of our neighbors to the north or south (how's your Spanish?). So don't assume that by getting into satellite TV you will never again experience the frustration of not being able to watch a NFL game because it is scrambled, particularly if it is being aired on the eyeball network - they almost always scramble during games, or at least have done so in the past.

Again, would love to see you get into the satellite TV hobby, just please don't come in with unrealistic expectations or you will be disappointed. We call it a hobby because that's what it is - it's something you have to keep working on until you get it the way you want it, and even after that you may have to change up some things from time to time. In particular, don't expect to buy all the parts today and be watching satellite TV tomorrow, unless you're very technically proficient already. There are dealers on the board that would probably be happy to sell you the parts of a working system, but unless you live near one of them you're still going to have the problem of getting it all installed.

Jeffrey Johnson

Aug 10, 2019

ancient said:
You cannot receive pay channels at all because although many of them are up there on the satellites, they are encrypted. As for news channels, many can be viewed on their Internet sites, or at least selected content can be viewed, perhaps with a time delay, but not off satellite. I particularly doubt that you will be able to find the specific "news" channel you are wanting without paying, however there are others available that are easier to watch (particularly online) but they won't let you live in your preferred echo chamber so you probably wouldn't like them. I know from time to time MSNBC pops up on one of the NBC feed channels but that's probably anathema to you, and I think those are on Ku band anyway. As for the networks, the major ones are up there (for now, anyway) but they are making them increasingly hard to receive in real time on consumer-grade receivers. Of the four major networks, one transmits in 4:2:2 format which most consumer grade satellite receivers can't decode in real time, another is going to transition to a similar format later this month and I'm not sure about that one, then another one has a funky sound mapping on most of its transponders (except for one local affiliate) and the final one is only available though one remaining local affiliate that's still on C-band (a better one was available but it went away a few months ago).

Some of these issues can be overcome by running a dedicated satellite TV backend system on a PC using satellite tuner cards, however this is much more expensive than buying a cheap receiver, and also requires much more technical knowledge to operate, and works best if you have multiple C-band dishes that are each pointed at a particular satellite rather than just one moveable dish. And you have to run backend software such as Tvheadend under Linux, or MediaPortal under Windows; there are others but those are two I know of. And then you have to have at least one frontend system running something like Kodi or VLC in order to be able to watch content from your backend. You can run the backend and one frontend on the same computer, but the more complex it gets the more you have to learn, and none of this is a "take it out of the box, connect the cables and start watching" experience; there's a significant learning curve!

I am not trying to discourage you from getting into the satellite hobby; far from it. But when you ask questions like "Should I install myself?", I wonder if you realize what you are getting into. In many areas of the country the ONLY option is to install yourself, since most of the people who used to install C-band dishes have gone out of business and/or retired. If you are lucky and ask around you might find an older guy that used to install C-band dishes back in the day and is still willing to do one, and if you are REALLY lucky there will still be an installer actively in business near you somewhere. Unfortunately the worst part of installing a C-band system is erecting and pointing the dish; there are several considerations there alone. So if you have no idea how to do it, or where to put a dish on your property (it matters), then you really should consider using a satellite installer if you can find one that's still in business or willing to temporarily come out of retirement.

If you wind up having to do it yourself then the first thing I would do is check your local library and see if they have any books from back in the 80's on how to install a satellite TV system. Ignore the parts about equipment (all of that's old analog stuff that won't work with today's digital signals) and available channels (they've pretty much all moved or gone dark), what you want to find is the section on how to aim a dish, including how to erect the pole, etc. If you can understand that and successfully erect and point your dish then the rest is comparatively a piece of cake.

Finally, you should be aware that from time to time even the major networks will scramble their signals, particularly for major sporting events such as NFL football. But what is ironic about that is that sometimes the very same game will be available in the clear on a network from one of our neighbors to the north or south (how's your Spanish?). So don't assume that by getting into satellite TV you will never again experience the frustration of not being able to watch a NFL game because it is scrambled, particularly if it is being aired on the eyeball network - they almost always scramble during games, or at least have done so in the past.

Again, would love to see you get into the satellite TV hobby, just please don't come in with unrealistic expectations or you will be disappointed. We call it a hobby because that's what it is - it's something you have to keep working on until you get it the way you want it, and even after that you may have to change up some things from time to time. In particular, don't expect to buy all the parts today and be watching satellite TV tomorrow, unless you're very technically proficient already. There are dealers on the board that would probably be happy to sell you the parts of a working system, but unless you live near one of them you're still going to have the problem of getting it all installed.

Thank you for the detailed info. For a living I fix robots and CNC machines. Installing isn't a problem but sometimes easier time wise to pay for that part. I will be looking into some books. I will also look into the technical aspect of the receivers and computers. I mind paying for programming and such. If I do buy a system I always like knowing on the front end what to do to avoid unnecessary inconvenience. Thanks.

jasjas

Aug 10, 2019

myself enhance your over the air , better antenna add a preamp.
if you have good internet get a roku and add pluto tv to it , its free and has a lot of good stuff on it.
and also ge a C band dish.

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zack

Aug 10, 2019

Jeffrey Johnson said:
Thank you for the detailed info. For a living I fix robots and CNC machines. Installing isn't a problem but sometimes easier time wise to pay for that part. I will be looking into some books. I will also look into the technical aspect of the receivers and computers. I mind paying for programming and such. If I do buy a system I always like knowing on the front end what to do to avoid unnecessary inconvenience. Thanks.

Do you have a Home Owners Association? If so, you may need to get special permission to install a big enough dish.

Get it in writing!!!

harshness

Aug 11, 2019

jasjas said:
and also ge a C band dish.

For someone seeking an alternative to DIRECTV, I don't think C band captures that spirit.

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N5XZS

Last reply 39 minutes ago · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New low power station with CP has been granted. "Albuquerque "

New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.

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Mr Tony

Yesterday at 12:28 PM

N5XZS said:
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time

probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 4:35 PM

Mr Tony said:
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.

N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:51 PM

Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 4:54 PM

N5XZS said:
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet

N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:59 PM

Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it.

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comfortably_numb

39 minutes ago

According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 12:29 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Tapatalk Removed

Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

Thanks for your understanding.

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Yesterday at 9:28 AM

Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

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dweber

Yesterday at 10:19 PM

Foxbat said:
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

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Peter Parker

Today at 12:27 AM

Foxbat said:
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

Hooray!

Peter Parker

Today at 12:29 AM

dweber said:
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

Do you mean the safari browser?

BlackHitachi

Supporting Founder

Last reply Yesterday at 10:45 PM · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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osu1991

Saturday at 9:48 PM

Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

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dfergie

Sunday at 8:42 AM

osu1991 said:
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

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Tuesday at 4:39 AM

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harshness

Tuesday at 9:58 AM

dfergie said:
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

dfergie

Tuesday at 10:07 AM

harshness said:
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.

osu1991

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3

Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.

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dfergie

Yesterday at 10:45 PM

Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax

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Paul's Microsoft Build 2026 Takeaways #shorts

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Direct YouTube Link - Paul's Microsoft Build 2026 Takeaways #shorts
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XBOX's 2026 Game Plan & Console Comeback

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Last reply Yesterday at 9:27 PM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Brave Browser for Androud

I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.

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b4pjoe

Yesterday at 7:50 PM

I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

b4pjoe said:
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success

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RJT79

Last reply Yesterday at 9:22 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

MLB Extra Innings Issue with DISH

Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Tuesday at 4:59 PM

I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

MyDISH

Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.

my.dish.com

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RJT79

Tuesday at 5:54 PM

zippyfrog said:
I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

MyDISH

Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.

my.dish.com

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Yesterday at 7:01 PM

RJT79 said:
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois

Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Yesterday at 7:38 PM

RJT79 said:
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

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RJT79

Yesterday at 7:41 PM

RJT79 said:
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

RJT79 said:
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Ill

RJT79 said:
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Final Update... As of 8:08 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026.

I now have MLB Extra Innings back! Look at the photo! (I did not include full image of the game due to copyright)

Let me just say it was rough! Very rough! And lets just say Charlie Ergen should be ashamed of his customer service team and how they handled this whole issue.

After multiple calls after my last post only to get the run around with answers like there are no refunds on MLB Extra Innings once the season starts, to they are working on it, to accessing my screen and sending multi hits to the box.

All I asked was one simple question remove the MLB Extra Innings which they confirmed I had and reauthorize free of charge. I was given a 1,000 reasons why this couldn't be done.

Well..........

I paid for it myself.... $120.00 current rate and it works!

I called back in to let them know what I done and what I thought of the customer service and told them I needed refunded. I was told they didn't do refunds....

Well again I called back and got someone who refunded the original payment of $150.00 back to my account. A $30 discount for all the hard trouble I went though.

It is now up to you all out there that have MLB Extra Innings to try to get them to do this but I am afraid you are going to have to take your own action and purchase again and beg for a refund or be out the $150.00 originally paid.

Persistence pays off. I don't give up very easily.

You can all go here below to make the purchase if you have any trouble.

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

I hope it all works well for you! And best of luck to everyone who has it!

I will still be around on this forum. You all sound like a fine group of people! I hope I can contribute more.

Take care!

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Yesterday at 7:55 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Top Of The World - The Carpenters

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Top of the World - Van Halen

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Yesterday at 6:33 PM · posted in iJustine

Surprising photo editing feature in iOS 27

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fGLCGahxnA4

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tparker

Last reply Yesterday at 6:26 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

"Bonus View" Channel List

I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.

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tparker

Jun 1, 2026

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navychop

Jun 1, 2026

Easy come, easy go- can't count on anything.

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tparker

Jun 3, 2026

2 Bonus View channels removed today:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.

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tparker

Yesterday at 6:10 PM

One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.

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Jim5506

Yesterday at 6:26 PM

tparker said:
One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.

A dandilion by any other name.

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