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Scott Greczkowski
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Radioguy41
So they want to force this massive disruption and expenditure for a technology (5G) that has yet to be proven to work in the real world? I'm sorry but it's time to tell these people to make their ideas work within existing allocations. Enough is enough. Gee, fiber never gets accidentally ripped up, does it? :rolleyes:

If the FCC wants to do something actually worthwhile to benefit consumers then they should get off their fat duffs and mandate universal broadband. The US ranks 18th in the world, 18th, in broadband access. As of 2016 the FCC claimed 95.7 % of households have access to broadband and the avg speed is 109Mbps. What world do these yokles live in? However, their own physical report released in 2016 states avg download speed is 55.7Mbps and ranks 10th in the world for speed. Hmmm, didn't they just say it was 109Mbps? Perhaps FCC employees should speak to one another and coordinate their numbers. All this points out that unlike unproven pie in the sky 5G, their number 1 priority should be universal broadband access, since this economy is now Internet driven, and 5G isn't the answer. Where broadband access doesn't exist today it won't exist when, and if, 5G rolls out either. I don't believe for one minute that any company, given the limited range of 5G is going to expend all the monies necessary to deploy it universally. So, SD, ND, and all you guys in the boonies, don't hold your breath.
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I think the basic problem overall with internet access and cost in the United States is greed or at least the desire to make a significant chunk of money off of consumers.

It is true that in countries such as Iraq comparing satellite internet with available satellite internet available in the United States it is cheaper, faster and no data limit in Iraq but severely capped and slower in the US. This is in part because there are more people in the is that want fast internet with no data cap, but many other countries have not only faster internet but better overall distribution.

In the US nearly everything prefers a network connection, and we use a lot of online resources for quicker more convenient lifestyles. We also have more money then most of these other countries, and businesses want to make a profit and shareholders want returns on investment. The sad ugly truth is in the United States we are somewhat a victim of our own success.

It also appears we are moving past existing infrastructure quite rapidly, and constantly developing newer protocols that require a new infrastructure so older infrastructure development stagnates or is abandoned all together. I never understood why it's taken so long to deploy fiber, it's been around for a very long time. Southwestern Bell in partnership with Ericsson deployed fiber between most towns in the mid 90's but fiber stopped at the telco offices converted to travel out on twisted pair. There are places that are just now getting fiber to the home. Ironically it appears in my area smaller towns are first then climbing up to larger towns in phases. My town received fiber to home 3 years ago however the town 8 miles south is just now getting fiber to home and it's close to twice as big. I grant you larger cities not only have more options but probably were first to receive most offerings of fast internet but there is a large discrepancy in how long fiber has taken to reach mid sized cities.

I probably will never understand the politics behind most things and I probably don't want to. But when I know some farmer in a shack in the Middle East has had better internet then I had for years in arguably the most advanced and industrialized nation in the world there's a problem that likely could have been solved had the major carriers not had their eyes focused on low hanging fruit.
comfortably_numb
I think the basic problem overall with internet access and cost in the United States is greed or at least the desire to make a significant chunk of money off of consumers.

It is true that in countries such as Iraq comparing satellite internet with available satellite internet available in the United States it is cheaper, faster and no data limit in Iraq but severely capped and slower in the US. This is in part because there are more people in the is that want fast internet with no data cap, but many other countries have not only faster internet but better overall distribution.

In the US nearly everything prefers a network connection, and we use a lot of online resources for quicker more convenient lifestyles. We also have more money then most of these other countries, and businesses want to make a profit and shareholders want returns on investment. The sad ugly truth is in the United States we are somewhat a victim of our own success.

It also appears we are moving past existing infrastructure quite rapidly, and constantly developing newer protocols that require a new infrastructure so older infrastructure development stagnates or is abandoned all together. I never understood why it's taken so long to deploy fiber, it's been around for a very long time. Southwestern Bell in partnership with Ericsson deployed fiber between most towns in the mid 90's but fiber stopped at the telco offices converted to travel out on twisted pair. There are places that are just now getting fiber to the home. Ironically it appears in my area smaller towns are first then climbing up to larger towns in phases. My town received fiber to home 3 years ago however the town 8 miles south is just now getting fiber to home and it's close to twice as big. I grant you larger cities not only have more options but probably were first to receive most offerings of fast internet but there is a large discrepancy in how long fiber has taken to reach mid sized cities.

I probably will never understand the politics behind most things and I probably don't want to. But when I know some farmer in a shack in the Middle East has had better internet then I had for years in arguably the most advanced and industrialized nation in the world there's a problem that likely could have been solved had the major carriers not had their eyes focused on low hanging fruit.

Living in a rural area is a choice. Internet access is not (yet) considered a necessity like water and power. As we say in my town population 962, "It's the price you pay to live in paradise." If gigabit internet was all that important to me, I'd move up to the city. I choose not to, so I deal with the consequences.

Companies are in business to make money; there isn't as much profit in a town of 962 vs. a town of 2.1 million.
S
Living in a rural area is a choice. Internet access is not (yet) considered a necessity like water and power. As we say in my town population 962, "It's the price you pay to live in paradise." If gigabit internet was all that important to me, I'd move up to the city. I choose not to, so I deal with the consequences.

Companies are in business to make money; there isn't as much profit in a town of 962 vs. a town of 2.1 million.
All true, however for instance at&t abandoned dsl in my town 4 years ago. We are a town of roughly 1800. For 6 months we had to rely on Celular WiFi hotspots. Another company laid fiber and we now have internet. AT&T tried to stop the new carrier from bringing in fiber. Long story short there was some money that changed hands and some legal rulings and we got the fiber from the new telco, and I now have 5x faster internet then I had from at&t for the same cost I was previously paying. So it appears in some cases it's big business not only ignoring small communities but preventing other telco from offering it.

And again I'm not aware of how or why other less populated countries have access to better internet in more rural areas then even I am but it's kinda interesting and somewhat frustrating considering all of the tech available in the is but virtually useless in many rural areas. Unless you have deep pockets.
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Is this 5G C-band proposal going to be implemented in Canada?
truckracer
So they want to force this massive disruption and expenditure for a technology (5G) that has yet to be proven to work in the real world? I'm sorry but it's time to tell these people to make their ideas work within existing allocations. Enough is enough. Gee, fiber never gets accidentally ripped up, does it? :rolleyes:

If the FCC wants to do something actually worthwhile to benefit consumers then they should get off their fat duffs and mandate universal broadband. The US ranks 18th in the world, 18th, in broadband access. As of 2016 the FCC claimed 95.7 % of households have access to broadband and the avg speed is 109Mbps. What world do these yokles live in? However, their own physical report released in 2016 states avg download speed is 55.7Mbps and ranks 10th in the world for speed. Hmmm, didn't they just say it was 109Mbps? Perhaps FCC employees should speak to one another and coordinate their numbers. All this points out that unlike unproven pie in the sky 5G, their number 1 priority should be universal broadband access, since this economy is now Internet driven, and 5G isn't the answer. Where broadband access doesn't exist today it won't exist when, and if, 5G rolls out either. I don't believe for one minute that any company, given the limited range of 5G is going to expend all the monies necessary to deploy it universally. So, SD, ND, and all you guys in the boonies, don't hold your breath.
We have Xfinity as a provider. They are expensive here vs speeds. We are lucky to get 20bmbits download.

Sent from my 14.4 K dialup connected IBM Think Centre
truckracer
I seriously hope they do not make my c band dishes unusable.

Sent from my 14.4 K dialup connected IBM Think Centre
I
Is this 5G C-band proposal going to be implemented in Canada?
stecle
Pacificrim posted here Government of Canada C Band Survey about upcoming 2022 canadian spectrum auction
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
long_time_Dish
Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
sdfntx
White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
long_time_Dish
White Sun - The Doobie Brothers
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
dfergie
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
R
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.
Jimbo
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Foxbat
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
EarDemon
Yep, I got the notification a few days ago. I'm not totally surprised.

Never used the address for anything, so no big loss to me.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

Keri Russell Wow GIF by NETFLIX
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Probably starting season 3 tonight. :D
meStevo
Finished it this evening. General impressions with no story spoilers, but will spoil it anyways as it just came out today.

Not quite as impactful of a finale as past seasons I thought, we'll see how far down the rabbit hole things go as the latest plot twists and turns unravel. Thought this season had a full episode or two too much rom-com style disagreements, but it was more or less paid off later. Ultimately didn't enjoy that being more of a throughline in the stories this season compared to what I remember of the priors.

My least favorite of the 3 seasons, but still very good. Really wonder how far they'll go with things, hard to see a nuclear attack or something ever actually happening. They just had a better story to tell and more meaningful beats in the prior season.
KAB
KAB
Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
K
Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

Jon Stewart Popcorn GIF
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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jsmit86
Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.
long_time_Dish
148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.
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Foxbat
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
I've saved a boatload of money!
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
Foxbat
The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only stick I with the Apple tv's is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is not worth sticking with it. Later, Apple!
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
​
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
​
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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K
Now testing on the stream server:
WJBF-D2 CW Augusta GA
KSVI-D2 CW Billings MT
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
K
PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
D
Weekly Analysis for 10/14/2026:
K
NBA League Pass prep

Some more reshuffles
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The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.
They finally announced ClipperVision, it will be on DIRECTV, but they didn't provide a channel number yet.

EDIT: It's going to be on channel 693
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WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
These are now live on stream and weren't testing on satellite as of yesterday:
WETM-DT/19 CW Elmira
WJET-DT/25 CW Erie
KLFY-DT/11 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 CW Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 CW Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 CW Utica
KFDX-DT/4 CW Wichita Falls
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The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.
West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers


Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.