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wallyhts
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
$170 a month. Extra people at my parents house nope will not send a hit to old hopper on account for free previews. I can't describe in words what i think of dish network. If they think they can build a wireless network there joking them self's there customer service sucks.

The only thing that comes to mind is a new fiber promo.

Drop junk in the trunk dish network or Sling TV add youtube tv and i'll give you a free month of Gig service and a roku.

Really dish?? Were under lock down Grrrr....

Lucky we know have some choice OrbyTv to the rescue :)
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KE4EST
How is that hang over this morning?
Scott Greczkowski
You are a lot more techy then the normal DISH customer.

With the Hopper 3 system using Hybrid LNB's and other Hybrid stuff mixed it older Hoppers are not compatible with it.

But knowing you, you have a second dish setup, which for the limited DISH CSR's they don't know how to deal with that in their systems. And the CSRs DISH is using are not their normal good CSR's here in the US as most of the call centers have been closed.

In the past to get setups like this approved they needed to be approved directly by Viveck. (But hes not with DISH anymore)

Since you were a former retailer, perhaps you can ping Amir for help and explain to him what you have going on.

We live in strange times. I can't wait to get back to normal. :D
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wallyhts
How is that hang over this morning?

I'm sure glad i don't drink. However with this teaching school and staying home i may have too very soon :)
HipKat
You are a lot more techy then the normal DISH customer.

With the Hopper 3 system using Hybrid LNB's and other Hybrid stuff mixed it older Hoppers are not compatible with it.

But knowing you, you have a second dish setup, which for the limited DISH CSR's they don't know how to deal with that in their systems. And the CSRs DISH is using are not their normal good CSR's here in the US as most of the call centers have been closed.

In the past to get setups like this approved they needed to be approved directly by Viveck. (But hes not with DISH anymore)

Since you were a former retailer, perhaps you can ping Amir for help and explain to him what you have going on.

We live in strange times. I can't wait to get back to normal. :D
Just to note, Hopper 2000's and Hopper slings DO work with Hybrid LNB's and Hubs. We don't use DPP or Nodes for any Hopper install anymore (Except Duo's, but you can go either way and I use Hybrid only).

However, the only other receiver allowed with a Hooper 3 in Dish's configurations is another Hopper 3, Joey 3 and 4K, WiFi Joeys and Wallys for campers and the like( Scott Greczkowski I know you know this). You cannot just call Dish and say, for example, I have a722 and 211 and I'd like to swap the 211 for a hopper. Can't happen, won't happen in Dish's parameters.

Now, as a tech, I COULD make your setup work (Same with the above listed), physically, but their system wouldn't let you activate the Hopper 2000 as long as the Hopper 3 is active
wallyhts
Dish's parameters.

Just saying life is a whole lot nicer without billion dollar company parameters. Mmm freedom!!! :)
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dare2be
I'll ask. Is this the kind of behavior we should be seeing from a staff member here?
Scott Greczkowski
I'll ask. Is this the kind of behavior we should be seeing from a staff member here?
Sure why not, hes got a gripe and pays for his service, hes entitled to.

But now he knows the reason why. We live in strange times. :D
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dare2be
Sure why not, hes got a gripe and pays for his service, hes entitled to.

But now he knows the reason why. We live in strange times. :D
Well, I for one will be putting him on ignore for this poorly written and off-base flame-out. Never thought I'd see the day when I would put a staff member on ignore.

EDIT: I guess I can't even do that.
the mack
Well, I for one will be putting him on ignore for this poorly written and off-base flame-out. Never thought I'd see the day when I would put a staff member on ignore.

EDIT: I guess I can't even do that.
Same as listening to somebody complain about grammar and every other thing that does not meet your high standards.
This is a discussion forum btw, people discuss things the only way they know how.:)
There is a click like atmosphere like a f'ing sewing circle here big time. You guys know who you are.
dare2be
Same as listening to somebody complain about grammar and every other thing that does not meet your high standards.
This is a discussion forum btw, people discuss things the only way they know how.:)
There is a click like atmosphere here like a f'ing sewing circle here big time. You guys know who you are.
My last post on this, I promise. My "high standards" is only a 3rd-grade level of basic grammar and spelling. If that is considered high and tolerated more than pointing it out, then that is part of the problem of the dumbing down of society.

That, coupled with the misguided rant is what prompted me to say anything in the first place.
wallyhts
My last post on this, I promise. My "high standards" is only a 3rd-grade level of basic grammar and spelling. If that is considered high and tolerated more than pointing it out, then that is part of the problem of the dumbing down of society.

That, coupled with the misguided rant is what prompted me to say anything in the first place.

My last post to you on this. You should leave your University of i'm better and discriminate and go stand around people coughing it could be a wonderful experience for you lol :) joking of course.

Stay safe out there Folks.
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HipKat
Just saying life is a whole lot nicer without billion dollar company parameters. Mmm freedom!!! :)
Then why are you on here crying?
wallyhts
Then why are you on here crying?

Fair question. Few things. So there stuck like many other people in america no choice crazy rules and high prices. Plus its fun to be a bear porker sometimes :)

My parents live in Jefferson County Kentucky. Jefferson county requires a telecommunications franchise which i started when google fiber came into town but never finished the process. OSP build is around 33,000ft of boring over 100 vaults its about $340,000 build. Not there yet but i'll get there :) Once i get them onnet i'll switch them over to youtube tv maybe slingtv just have to see.
KE4EST
I'm sure glad i don't drink. However with this teaching school and staying home i may have too very soon :)
:D
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So, you are getting Dish TV just fine and want to dig up an old STB just for the previews even though Dish does not allow H3 and older hoppers on the same account. OK, here is my solution:

You need a DVR that is associated with your account but can be put in a closet and then allowed to funciton on your account when you feel like digging out that old DVR. Do the following:

1. Cancel your Dish account and services.

2. Go to the TiVo website and order as many TiVo DVR's and Mini's (Mini's are TiVo equivilant of a Joey) you want. Some TiVo's are OTA only or Cable only or OTA and Cable capable, but not simiultaneously so.

3. Best value is to pay All-in for your DVR's so you can store them in closet immediately. Also, you will save a great deal of money buying the All-in Plan instead of the very steep montly charges, in addition to the cable montly charges for Cable Card and Tuning Adapters or whatever else the cable cos. try to improperly charge you. TiVo, with a cable TV subscription, is the most economical option of all, and it sounds like you would also like to save money, not just have access to a few lously "previews" once a month.

4. Confirm your Activation of your account and all equipment on-line. TiVo will create your account and associate all equipement you order as long as you order them from TiVo and not a 3rd party, otherwise you have to activate all that stuff on your own on-line.

5. Now you can put as many of your TiVo DVR's in the closet with your Hopper DVR, but you can dig out that old TiVo DVR anytime you want and "re-activate" or your the TiVo servers will recognize it and you can use in a short time, after a few software updates.

6. It is best practice, however, to dig out your old TiVo DVR's at least every 6 months so that your DVR is up to date and will not fall victim to DEACTIVATION/No longer supported TiVo DVR model due to policy and business decisions because your TiVo DVR was not always connected to your active account because it was sitting in the closet with the roaches. Also, digging out your old TiVo DVR every 6 months OR LESS can also allow your DVR to be eligible to upgrade to NEW DVR model at a great cost savings.

7. Also TiVo is releasing thier own "firestick" like streaming device. This sounds like just what the doctor ordered for you because you don't need a DVR to put in the closet and pull out and labouriously re-connect whenever you want the freebies.

Honsetly, it my not be worth the trouble just to have access for a few weeks to Dish's measly "free this month" junk channels. If you are really steamed about Dish and really want those channels, then upgrade your current package with Dish or just go to cable and pay their prices--USING A TiVo, of course, with all its advantages and very low costs.

Setting up a new TiVo on cable systems today is a BREEZE and so easy to do with great support from all the cable companies who will help you and do all the work for you by sending out highly knowledgable techs because they all value you as a customer more than any other industy in the world. In fact, Comcast; Spectrum; et al. all have the highest customer satisfaction ratings on the planet because they are there for you and love providing you with their monthly free channels (well, they don't have free channels every month, but at least they care about you), and they LOVE for you to put their boxes in the closet because they do charge you the box fee every month, even if you don't use the box and it is NOT connected to the system, but you can pull it out of the closet and start using it anytime you want for those non-existant every month plate of free channels, but I'd say, judging by your ire, it may be worth it to you. In fact, it may be the perfect solution, so join the over 1 million (and decreasing) TiVo owners and lovers who would not have it any other way so that they can put the DVR in the closet, and then pull it out for occasional use again, especially for those not-offered every month Cable TV free previews.

Let us know how the change to the better option goes. You won't regret it.
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Stormy_2021
... Plus its fun to be a bear porker sometimes...
He's right ya know...
I mean, who doesn't like porking bears..?

besides the bear, of course...
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My last post to you on this. You should leave your University of i'm better and discriminate and go stand around people coughing it could be a wonderful experience for you lol :) joking of course.

Stay safe out there Folks.
That's just like saying you want someone to get cancer. No, I sense you were not joking. But if you really were jokikng I'm sure you will delete this post. I know you must be a better person than to wish someone great illness and make a terrible joke about something so very serious, and, especially if Scott supports you as strongly as he does. I have two family members in the hospital right now due to Coronavirus, and one my not make it, while the younger one will "likely" make--but "no guarantees" but requiring oxygen for the rest of their life is a clear possibility with her odds improving. Yes, YOUNG people can get sick and seriously ill, but better chance at surving, but with varying degrees per person with lifetime health consequences. She, the young one, was really not heading the warnings and is now paying the price.

Let us not joke about viruses that cause great illness, hospitalizaton for some, and can even lead to death. I don't hold this hasty post against you, and you will probably remove it once you realize how bad of a post hoping someone would get sick with Covid 19 Coronavirus really is. I look forward to haveing you good name and standing restored. I don't wish any harm upon you that you have wished upon others. Please. I am leaving this thread now becase it is too depressing and has now devolved into nothing relating to the purpose of this forum, and hope to encounter good, not hateful, humor in other threads or info useful to those seeking help of info on pay-TV. This is truly the saddest I have every felt ever on this forum.
the mack
Plus its fun to be a bear porker sometimes :)
Bear porker....lmao
Was going to get up on a high horse but they are all spoken for by 3-4 members here.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Jimbo
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Show Don't Tell - Rush
harshness
Show and Tell - Al Wilson
sdfntx
On with the Show - The Rolling Stones
gms49ers
The Show Must Go On - Pink Floyd
Bobby
If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Some of the channels start next week.

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comfortably_numb
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
TRG
TRG
It's not even Halloween yet.
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
sdfntx
Sorry to hear this. R.I.P.
FTA4PA
R.I.P.
dishstaller
My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
TRG
TRG
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in Local Radio Discussion
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dishdude
It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
S
Haven't listened AM or FM in years
harshness
If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
You knew the answer before you asked it.

I can't recall having encountered a local ad on Sirius, and I don't imagine it is any different on XM.
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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dtv757
For those dazn nba channels are they sat only or sat & streaming
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Both, and they just made it official with a multiyear deal that also includes TV Everywhere authentication for the DAZN app, and commercial distribution.

DIRECTV, the premier provider of digital television entertainment in the United States, and DAZN, the world's leading sports entertainment platform, today announced a new multi-year distribution agreement for local telecasts of Cleveland Cavaliers, Indiana Pacers, Memphis Grizzlies, Minnesota Timberwolves, and San Antonio Spurs games for DIRECTV streaming, satellite, and U-verse customers in each team's respective NBA-designated home territories.

These DAZN telecasts will be available to DIRECTV customers who subscribe to the Choice or higher packages and to U-verse TV customers who subscribe to the U200 or higher package. Each of DAZN's team services provides live pregame, postgame, and in-game coverage for the respective team.

In the coming weeks, customers who receive access to these teams via DIRECTV will also be able to login to the DAZN platform at no additional cost using their DIRECTV login credentials.

This agreement also provides distribution rights to each of the five NBA teams to all of DIRECTV FOR BUSINESS' thousands of sports bars, restaurants, fitness clubs, and other commercial venues located within each team's respective region.
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 28 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 28 2026 vs Oct 21 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
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1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
-1​
194​
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SD mpeg2​
434​
1​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
A few remaps
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
· posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network
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JSheridan
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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S
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
S
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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BradleyD
Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
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S
Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade
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