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Hopper Duo Remote Question

Ok long time Dish subscriber, who loves, LOVEs my Vip 722 dvr, w/OTA and UHF Pro remotes, that said, I'm afraid my 722 might be slowly dying on me (that's for another post on this forum). :(

I've been debating a low cost replacement for my current situation, which is a whole house distributed HDMI runs to all TV's, 1 DVR plays on all TV's, UHF Pro remotes control from any room in the house.

Is there anyway a Hopper Duo (no Joey) could replace the 722 config...? I know I'd need to buy an OTA tuner, but the remote is my question, is there any way the Hopper Duo could have a similar UHF Pro type experience...? Basically DVR is in basement, but can be controlled from most other rooms..? Just trying to keep monthly fees as low as possible.

Thank you in advance for any feedback. :)

- Mitchman
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dishdude
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I think the Wally might be perfect for you. I recently retired my beloved ViP and replaced it with a Wally, it distributes to the whole house with an HDMI over coax converter. I've been impressed and find it superior to the old ViP I had. You'll have 2 satellite tuners, 2 OTA tuners and streaming capability. You'll also have no monthly DVR fees as an added bonus!

Cost of entry -

Wally - $59 new on eBay
AirTV OTA adapter - $29
One time DVR fee - $40
Hard drive - (I had an old one laying around so just bought an enclosure) $10
50.0 remotes go for about $15 new on eBay
Ethernet adapter $18 from Amazon

$170 and you own all the equipment, have essentially the same capability as you have with the 722 and get rid of the monthly DVR fee.

We never are watching more than one satellite channel at a time, so a hopper is overkill. If the Wally is in use, the other TVs have OTA, a ton of streaming options and access to the live channels on Dish Anywhere.
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And now, my counter-argument. (Keep in mind that I used to recommend Wally all of the time. So, I have nothing against the Wally, but I am now in the business of selling my Hopper Duos.)

Wally lacks PIP capability, and also lacks the new Gallery app. Hopper Duo has both of those.

With a subscription to satellite-delivered locals, Hopper Duo can record the four major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox) simultaneously, using only one tuner. Wally lacks that capability.

Existing recordings can be transferred from ViP DVR's to an external hard drive, and can be played by (and/or transferred to) the Hopper Duo. Those recordings would be incompatible with Wally.

I can beat the prices listed in the post above:

Hopper Duo - I am only asking for $50
OTA adapter - I'll provide that for $20 (the older Hauppauge model though, not the AirTV one)
No upfront $40 DVR fee
Dish no longer charges that fee to new subscribers with Wally. However, they do now have a $7 per month fee for the first receiver. (At least, that is the rate my sister got as a new subscriber this year.) That $7 first receiver fee only applies to Wally, not any model of Hopper. Hopper Duo's DVR fee is $10 monthly. So, a $3 difference for more functionality.​
Hopper Duo has an internal hard drive. So, no expense for external hard drives, unless you want to archive.
54-series remotes - I'm asking $10 each
Hopper Duo has built-in Wi-Fi capability. Wally would require an adapter for Wi-Fi.

So, let's see: $50 + $20 + $10 for one spare remote = $80 upfront, and all of the equipment would still be owned. Dish would collect $3 more per month than what they charge new customers with one Wally. ($10 DVR fee for Hopper Duo vs. $7 first receiver fee for Wally) Hopefully, the Hopper Duo has enough additional capabilities to make the extra monthly money worth it.
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And now, my counter-argument. (Keep in mind that I used to recommend Wally all of the time. So, I have nothing against the Wally, but I am now in the business of selling my Hopper Duos.)

Wally lacks PIP capability, and also lacks the new Gallery app. Hopper Duo has both of those.

With a subscription to satellite-delivered locals, Hopper Duo can record the four major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox) simultaneously, using only one tuner. Wally lacks that capability.

Existing recordings can be transferred from ViP DVR's to an external hard drive, and can be played by (and/or transferred to) the Hopper Duo. Those recordings would be incompatible with Wally.

I can beat the prices listed in the post above:

Hopper Duo - I am only asking for $50
OTA adapter - I'll provide that for $20 (the older Hauppauge model though, not the AirTV one)
No upfront $40 DVR fee
Dish no longer charges that fee to new subscribers with Wally. However, they do now have a $7 per month fee for the first receiver. (At least, that is the rate my sister got as a new subscriber this year.) That $7 first receiver fee only applies to Wally, not any model of Hopper. Hopper Duo's DVR fee is $10 monthly. So, a $3 difference for more functionality.​
Hopper Duo has an internal hard drive. So, no expense for external hard drives, unless you want to archive.
54-series remotes - I'm asking $10 each
Hopper Duo has built-in Wi-Fi capability. Wally would require an adapter for Wi-Fi.

So, let's see: $50 + $20 + $10 for one spare remote = $80 upfront, and all of the equipment would still be owned. Dish would collect $3 more per month than what they charge new customers with one Wally. ($10 DVR fee for Hopper Duo vs. $7 first receiver fee for Wally) Hopefully, the Hopper Duo has enough additional capabilities to make the extra monthly money worth it.
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Amazing, detailed feedback, I will try to go through the various posts. Had no clue I could go outside of Dish on equipment, really appreciate it.
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crodrules said:
And now, my counter-argument. (Keep in mind that I used to recommend Wally all of the time. So, I have nothing against the Wally, but I am now in the business of selling my Hopper Duos.)

Wally lacks PIP capability, and also lacks the new Gallery app. Hopper Duo has both of those.

With a subscription to satellite-delivered locals, Hopper Duo can record the four major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox) simultaneously, using only one tuner. Wally lacks that capability.

Existing recordings can be transferred from ViP DVR's to an external hard drive, and can be played by (and/or transferred to) the Hopper Duo. Those recordings would be incompatible with Wally.

I can beat the prices listed in the post above:

Hopper Duo - I am only asking for $50
OTA adapter - I'll provide that for $20 (the older Hauppauge model though, not the AirTV one)
No upfront $40 DVR fee
Dish no longer charges that fee to new subscribers with Wally. However, they do now have a $7 per month fee for the first receiver. (At least, that is the rate my sister got as a new subscriber this year.) That $7 first receiver fee only applies to Wally, not any model of Hopper. Hopper Duo's DVR fee is $10 monthly. So, a $3 difference for more functionality.​
Hopper Duo has an internal hard drive. So, no expense for external hard drives, unless you want to archive.
54-series remotes - I'm asking $10 each
Hopper Duo has built-in Wi-Fi capability. Wally would require an adapter for Wi-Fi.

So, let's see: $50 + $20 + $10 for one spare remote = $80 upfront, and all of the equipment would still be owned. Dish would collect $3 more per month than what they charge new customers with one Wally. ($10 DVR fee for Hopper Duo vs. $7 first receiver fee for Wally) Hopefully, the Hopper Duo has enough additional capabilities to make the extra monthly money worth it.
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But it doesn't have Prime time Anytime section but it will record all 4 network channels on one tuner? Sounds like you get the capability even if you don't get the auto skip on commercials.
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But it doesn't have Prime time Anytime section but it will record all 4 network channels on one tuner? Sounds like you get the capability even if you don't get the auto skip on commercials.
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That is exactly correct. It requires separate timers for each show (just like any Hopper outside of prime time hours) but it works great 24/7.
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Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
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Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
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There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
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There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
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Correct. I've read all of them (yes, it took awhile, better part of a year, in my spare time). And they can't really consider or classify a series about the Bene Gesserit as a prequel. Sure, I suppose they can call it that, if they want to, because it begins before the time of Paul Atredies, but it's still a stretch. It's a Dune-related novel, not a prequel as we generally think of prequels...
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Song Name Game Part 3!

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors
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No Match, back to:
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It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
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Jimbo said:
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
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Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
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dishdude said:
Very rarely listen to FM any more
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
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KOQIT receivers

Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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a good surge protector will help to.
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
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Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
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Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
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Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
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For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
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For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
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Seems like I remember that now, with my V9 I manually entered anyway on 105, easier for me to pick the channel later :)
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