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HipKat
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
THIS is a good thing!

New software is available starting 1/13 and it has the following features and improvements:

  • Stability Improvements
  • Force Guide Update

Force Guide Update Feature Notes:
Users can now force channel guide update by on all Hopper and Wally receivers by using a button in the Tools menu
1. Users no longer have to wait for a major software release to update the guide, they can simply navigate to the tools menu and select "Guide update"
2. Once the update is initiated, it may take 2-5 minutes before guide progress becomes visible. Standby after confirming the forced guide update once.
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SandFarmer
After the update I moved the Ethernet cable from the Top to Bottom RJ45 and it made me reboot the H3. A little pop up that told me that I had to Reboot the H3. And it would not dismiss until I clicked on OK that initiated the Reboot. Never had that happen before. I like it.

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HipKat
After the update I moved the Ethernet cable from the Top to Bottom RJ45 and it made me reboot the H3. A little pop up that told me that I had to Reboot the H3. And it would not dismiss until I clicked on OK that initiated the Reboot. Never had that happen before. I like it.

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The Bottom Ethernet port is used for IP Connected Hoppers (Dish Fiber, for example) as well as connecting to Access Points and Ethernet Connections. When you connect your internet to the bottom port, it needs to make sure you're not connecting to a Commercial Headend via IP - hence the reboot
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The Bottom Ethernet port is used for IP Connected Hoppers (Dish Fiber, for example) as well as connecting to Access Points and Ethernet Connections. When you connect your internet to the bottom port, it needs to make sure you're not connecting to a Commercial Headend via IP - hence the reboot
I never heard that there's a preference. But I moved it to the upper jack when the lower one failed. And have been for a while now in troubleshooting. But I never got that pop up until this last update. That's what surprised me and I posted it.

Now a purely technical question: "With two H3's each having 3-4 ways to connect to the Internet, how should the system be connected to the Internet?" "Just asking for a friend . . . "

Thanks.
HipKat
I never heard that there's a preference. But I moved it to the upper jack when the lower one failed. And have been for a while now in troubleshooting. But I never got that pop up until this last update. That's what surprised me and I posted it.

Now a purely technical question: "With two H3's each having 3-4 ways to connect to the Internet, how should the system be connected to the Internet?" "Just asking for a friend . . . "

Thanks.
The best way is with 2 routers/Networks, each Hopper connected to each Network. So, for example, if you have say Comcast, et al and use a Mesh Setup, one to the Comcast with a HIC, preferably and one Hopper to the Mesh Network and using a Duo Hub in lieu of 2 Solo Hubs @ the 42 Switch
SandFarmer
The best way is with 2 routers/Networks, each Hopper connected to each Network. So, for example, if you have say Comcast, et al and use a Mesh Setup, one to the Comcast with a HIC, preferably and one Hopper to the Mesh Network and using a Duo Hub in lieu of 2 Solo Hubs @ the 42 Switch
I've used VLANs in routers that could do it. That worked great without any special setup. Surprisingly it was Centurylinks' rejigged FW for their supplied routers. Now I'm doing Out of Range IPAs and IPA Reservations. I have Gigabit Fiber with PPPoE and I think it would take 3 routers to do what suggest, since the ONT is a dumb converter. I'm in the process of going Fiber Direct Ubiquiti. Been waiting on their new gear to come out and then I can do all kinds of killer things. Even though my current WiFi6 Mesh system is great.

I pulled the 2 Solo Hubs the Training Tech installed when they installed the two H3s and replaced them with a Duo ($9 from Walmart) and cleaned up all that long ago. There should be pictures lying around here someplace.
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I've used VLANs in routers that could do it. That worked great without any special setup. Surprisingly it was Centurylinks' rejigged FW for their supplied routers. Now I'm doing Out of Range IPAs and IPA Reservations. I have Gigabit Fiber with PPPoE and I think it would take 3 routers to do what suggest, since the ONT is a dumb converter. I'm in the process of going Fiber Direct Ubiquiti. Been waiting on their new gear to come out and then I can do all kinds of killer things. Even though my current WiFi6 Mesh system is great.

I pulled the 2 Solo Hubs the Training Tech installed when they installed the two H3s and replaced them with a Duo ($9 from Walmart) and cleaned up all that long ago. There should be pictures lying around here someplace.
Sorry to be late to the party, however I thought I would give my experiences as well in regards to this.

I've had my H3 using the TOP RJ45 port since 2015.

After a short period of time with using a non managed 24 port home LAN switch, and since I fiddle around with routers and such which other home users complained about, I changed the Switch configuration around a bit and put my H3 and two Joeys on there own separate switch segment behind the host router. So there connection won't be interrupted by anything I do on the main home switch network. Of course, if I do something at the host router level, then I do this when everyone is in bed or out of the house.
So the Hopper system is connected to a non managed Netgear GS108 coming of the back of the host router. I have another two lines that runs from this 108 switch to the master bedroom were 1 Joey is and then a 2nd line from the 108 switch to the living room down stairs that services the Joey in the living room. There is a Netgear GS 105 switch at these to locations for the Joeys to connect to and other wired devices when needed.

I have had this configuration for over the past few years and haven't seen any problems with it.

Anytime I change out the host router I do power cycle the H3 and Joeys to ensure they get good IP addressing and avoid any IP address collisions.

I've also tested D-Link and HP Procurve branded switches as well.

Other then that, this configuration works and works well.
SandFarmer
Sorry to be late to the party, however I thought I would give my experiences as well in regards to this.

I've had my H3 using the TOP RJ45 port since 2015.

After a short period of time with using a non managed 24 port home LAN switch, and since I fiddle around with routers and such which other home users complained about, I changed the Switch configuration around a bit and put my H3 and two Joeys on there own separate switch segment behind the host router. So there connection won't be interrupted by anything I do on the main home switch network. Of course, if I do something at the host router level, then I do this when everyone is in bed or out of the house.
So the Hopper system is connected to a non managed Netgear GS108 coming of the back of the host router. I have another two lines that runs from this 108 switch to the master bedroom were 1 Joey is and then a 2nd line from the 108 switch to the living room down stairs that services the Joey in the living room. There is a Netgear GS 105 switch at these to locations for the Joeys to connect to and other wired devices when needed.

I have had this configuration for over the past few years and haven't seen any problems with it.

Anytime I change out the host router I do power cycle the H3 and Joeys to ensure they get good IP addressing and avoid any IP address collisions.

I've also tested D-Link and HP Procurve branded switches as well.

Other then that, this configuration works and works well.
I can do the same with the software in the Centurylink C3000Z Router and while I had it that way everything was calm, quiet and operational. Right now I have the one H3 connected with both the lower RJ45 and WiFi. The second H3 is all MoCA. When I check the connections on the first H3, the lower jack is good, MoCA good, upper jack not operational and the WiFi connected but not being used. Sometimes the connections that are not connected to the Internet or are not in use often disappear.

So far things have stabilized and the MoCA indicator has not budged in a couple of days. I have Internet and communication between the two H3s. We'll just have to see how long it lasts.

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I can do the same with the software in the Centurylink C3000Z Router and while I had it that way everything was calm, quiet and operational. Right now I have the one H3 connected with both the lower RJ45 and WiFi. The second H3 is all MoCA. When I check the connections on the first H3, the lower jack is good, MoCA good, upper jack not operational and the WiFi connected but not being used. Sometimes the connections that are not connected to the Internet or are not in use often disappear.

So far things have stabilized and the MoCA indicator has not budged in a couple of days. I have Internet and communication between the two H3s. We'll just have to see how long it lasts.

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I only have 1 H3. ;)
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I apologize if this has been answered. I saw someone else ask but never a reply.
What exactly does guide update do? In what scenario would this feature be helpful to someone?
Thanks.
TheKrell
I apologize if this has been answered. I saw someone else ask but never a reply.
What exactly does guide update do? In what scenario would this feature be helpful to someone?
In any scenario where you suspect the guide may be out of date or missing info. One example that springs to mind: adding an OTA adapter and scanning in your locals. IIRC you won't see any guide information until the H3 gets around to it, e.g. at the wee-hour reboot.
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HipKat
There was an update to the USB Drives we use to upload software now, yesterday, so I presume there's another Software update coming. I'll let you know if they post anything
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

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Thanks for your understanding. :)
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Foxbat
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
dweber
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
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Peter Parker
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
Hooray!
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Peter Parker
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Do you mean the safari browser?
Foxbat
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Actually, PWA stands for "Progressive Web Application" and is basically just saving a site's homepage to your desktop where it appears as an "App" with the rest of your smartphone's Apps.
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Scott Greczkowski
A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.

TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.

In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.

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In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.

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And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.

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Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.

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So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.

Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.

In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.

If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.

Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.

I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]

The above link also explains PWA's better as well. :)

If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.

But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site. :) Please give the PWA a try.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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King Of The Road - Roger Miller
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King Of Pain - The Police
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Haven't Got Time For The PAIN-Carly Simon
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No Time - The Guess Who
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Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
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Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!
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Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!
I heard on the radio, after the final pitstop, Turner Motorsport were resigned to second place. 'You're in second. Don't worry about it. First is McLaren, we aren't catching them.'
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Caught up to the 500... err... k in St. Louis. What a race! Andretti Motorsport were doing very well with Ericsson and Kirkwood, meanwhile Power was moving up the grid. Veekay started cautiously. He was working the tires just right, becoming more lethal later in the stint. Rasmussen was racing likewise, not nearly as insane as he has in the past. Palou was leading the race, in a shocker to all. Caio Collet was having a wonderful ride, making Ferucci potentially sweat a bit. Rain came, rain went, rain came, rain went. Generally mild sprinkles, but enough to pause racing on an oval.

Palou would kind of send Siegel into the wall. Siegel really didn't do much wrong. As he noted, you have to turn at some point. Palou had acres of room below and Siegel might have had his ticket out of Indycar stamped. Dixon was doing the fuel thing and got busted twice by yellows, not pitting before the flag came out. Then the most critical happened... Palou ran out of gas on pit lane, effectively giving Newgarden the race lead and win. Newgarden had a very early pit, so he was able to slide in, get service and go. Meanwhile, everyone else was confused and stuck behind Palou for a bit. Once people figured what was happening, Newgarden had a major advantage of several seconds. Newgarden wouldn't look back and when it went green again, he'd hold the lead for the win.

Massive credit to Juncos Hollinger who bested Penske in getting Veekay out before Malukas in a transition that was oddly bizarre. I haven't had time to check, but I'm wondering if Veekay was about to run out of fuel or cut a tire. He was charging late in a stint, got up to fifth, and then tailed back for a few laps to 10th or 11th. It looked like it was over. Went into the pits, and after the pitting sequence was over, Veekay was well inside the top ten again. It was weird. And he charged, getting up to fourth. He made a late move on Rasmussen, but Rasmussen held his position with some great driving. In fact, there was a ton of incredible racing passing, not passing all race long. Veekay would finish 4th. A podium would have been awesome, but it is a great outcome for a guy who hopefully will get a break with a big team. We saw what Veekay could do with a Honda last season with fuel save, imagine replacing Simpson on Ganassi and having speed to go with fuel saving. His 6th at Indy and 4th at St. Louis get him up to 13th in the points standings and only 5 points outside of the top 10.

Ericsson finished second, resigned to finishing behind the current best in the world guy on a short oval. Rasmussen got the final step on the podium, a nice rebound to what has been an otherwise bad year for him, and a good reward to ECR who just extended his contract.
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They raced USAC cars at Daytona once. Once! People died. Aj Foyt said 'f this', and left after the first go around. AJ freaking Foyt thought it was crazy! And cars weren't nearly as fast as they are now.

I think they tried Talladega once too.
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LeMans qualifying on going. WEC has d9ne a great job expanding the automotive company entries. Even without Porsche, a large nunber of manufacturers.
Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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b4pjoe
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success
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Something like this maybe


Option 2: Set a custom Home button URL
  1. Click the menu icon in the top-right corner and select Settings.
  2. Click on Appearance in the left sidebar.
  3. Toggle on the Show home button switch.
  4. Under the home button settings, select the option to Enter custom web address and type in your preferred website. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
BlackHitachi
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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osu1991
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
dfergie
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
harshness
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
dfergie
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.
osu1991

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3


Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.
dfergie
Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax
"MysteryMan"
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· posted in FTA Manuals Section
Looking for a manual. Want to do some radio astronomy with it. Realize it's old but, since it's not for tv use don't need any decoders, just the RF section.
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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
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comfortably_numb
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.
N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo: