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sjhart

Last reply May 10, 2021 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Why do I have Dish?

So, really need local channels and sports for my area (SF Bay Area) at a minimum and also ESPN and other major content. At this point, no Warriors, no A's, no Giants. 49ers will be carried by major networks so OK with football. They have a bazillion channels that I don't watch. There are so many BS channels. Something is wrong. Think Dish needs to rethink what they deliver. Am I Crazy? SJ

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Wayne2017

May 4, 2021

Wayne2017 said:
Sorry but VPN is is illegal, otherwise viewers would not need this or instructions on how to do this. Remember DISH was fined for offering networks out of market. I wish this site would not allow this kind of talk or instructions as this could hurt or cause Locast to lost in court for everyone that does not cheat/steal something they are not entitled to. Thank You!

NYDutch

May 4, 2021

Wayne2017 said:
Sorry but VPN is is illegal, otherwise viewers would not need this or instructions on how to do this. Remember DISH was fined for offering networks out of market. I wish this site would not allow this kind of talk or instructions as this could hurt or cause Locast to lost in court for everyone that does not cheat/steal something they are not entitled to. Thank You!

VPN's are not "illegal"... A VPN might be used to access a geo-locked service in violation of the service's TOS, but the tool used for that access is no more illegal than cars are illegal when you use one to commit an illegal offense like speeding, etc. Dish was not fined for offering out of market networks, they were fined for not following the required procedures for offering out of market networks. I'm not aware of any law that says viewers cannot view an out of market station, only FCC rules that say a provider cannot knowingly offer an out of market station except in limited circumstances.

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Wayne2017

May 4, 2021

NYDutch said:
VPN's are not "illegal"... A VPN might be used to access a geo-locked service in violation of the service's TOS, but the tool used for that access is no more illegal than cars are illegal when you use one to commit an illegal offense like speeding, etc. Dish was not fined for offering out of market networks, they were fined for not following the required procedures for offering out of market networks. I'm not aware of any law that says viewers cannot view an out of market station, only FCC rules that say a provider cannot knowingly offer an out of market station except in limited circumstances.

I don't understand then, why does one need a VPN if they can access Locast legally from there current location. Locast will not work if outside your DMA. Just like networks being sold for use outside they DMA?

Wayne2017

May 4, 2021

Wayne2017 said:
I don't understand then, why does one need a VPN if they can access Locast legally from there current location. Locast will not work if outside your DMA. Just like networks being sold for use outside they DMA?

Also if the VPN is used to defeat the geo location for Locast to ONLY offer a set of locals to there area only and a customer has figured out a way to defeat this Locast and the local network affiliate would have great concerns about Locast's ability to deliver in the DMA only. This I feel is illegal.

dishdude

May 4, 2021

Wayne2017 said:
Also if the VPN is used to defeat the geo location for Locast to ONLY offer a set of locals to there area only and a customer has figured out a way to defeat this Locast and the local network affiliate would have great concerns about Locast's ability to deliver in the DMA only. This I feel is illegal.

Unless there's a law out there that states it is unlawful to use a VPN to access Locast, then it's not illegal. Is setting up a larger antenna on your roof to pick up OTA channels out of your home DMA illegal?

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DishSubLA

May 5, 2021

dishdude said:
Unless there's a law out there that states it is unlawful to use a VPN to access Locast, then it's not illegal. Is setting up a larger antenna on your roof to pick up OTA channels out of your home DMA illegal?

AFAIK, the "law" only goes so far and addresses MVPD's and what they can and can't do. As for any private citizen using ANY means to obtain ANY OTA channel in any DMA for PRIVATE use, I do not believe the "law" addresses that at all. The Areo SCOTUS ruling applies to money making entities who do not get the permission of the broadcasters, which usually involves payments to broadcasters. Although Areo met all the tests from every single Court along the way. Even SCOTUS had to go to great pains to make it clear that the Areo ruling should NOT be applied to any other form of such service because the SCOTUS ruling was WRONG--and they majority knew that--because it went against EVERYTHING already deemed legal, and the decision cause great confusion and consternation for a few days until it was clear that SCOTUS said a "don't read more into this ruling other than Areo itself" sort of message. SCOTUS just didn't like that Areo was able to find the loop-hole in the law--if you will. Loopholes are to be plugged by Congress, not SCOTUS, and even those justices who voted for Areo being legal, did NOT like at all what Areo was doing, but had to conceed that it was legal, and it was up to Congress to fix the matter. And, IMHO, Congress would have put Areo out of business weeks after a favorable SCOTUS ruling for Areo, but that would have been the PROPER way to do it. Sorry for the rant, but that ruling was so stupid and contrary to even Fair Use.

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HipKat

May 5, 2021

Wayne2017 said:
I don't understand then, why does one need a VPN if they can access Locast legally from there current location. Locast will not work if outside your DMA. Just like networks being sold for use outside they DMA?

Because a VPN has nothing to do with pirating TV feeds on it's own. I use VPN's on all my devices and have for several years as a VPN, to be basic about it, "scrambles" the path that a device connects to a Server so that tracking and exploiting that device's IP is much more difficult. In today's climate of online hackers, phishers and scammers, I don't see why anyone wouldn't protect their devices with a VPN, especially as affordable as they are. I use Surfshark which has the least amount of slowing my connections, even making it almost unnoticeable when I'm gaming on my PC

eddie willers

May 5, 2021

DishSubLA said:
AFAIK, the "law" only goes so far and addresses MVPD's and what they can and can't do. As for any private citizen using ANY means to obtain ANY OTA channel in any DMA for PRIVATE use, I do not believe the "law" addresses that at all. The Areo SCOTUS ruling applies to money making entities who do not get the permission of the broadcasters, which usually involves payments to broadcasters. Although Areo met all the tests from every single Court along the way. Even SCOTUS had to go to great pains to make it clear that the Areo ruling should NOT be applied to any other form of such service because the SCOTUS ruling was WRONG--and they majority knew that--because it went against EVERYTHING already deemed legal, and the decision cause great confusion and consternation for a few days until it was clear that SCOTUS said a "don't read more into this ruling other than Areo itself" sort of message. SCOTUS just didn't like that Areo was able to find the loop-hole in the law--if you will. Loopholes are to be plugged by Congress, not SCOTUS, and even those justices who voted for Areo being legal, did NOT like at all what Areo was doing, but had to conceed that it was legal, and it was up to Congress to fix the matter. And, IMHO, Congress would have put Areo out of business weeks after a favorable SCOTUS ruling for Areo, but that would have been the PROPER way to do it. Sorry for the rant, but that ruling was so stupid and contrary to even Fair Use.

Scalia wrote an excoriating dissent. He was really pissed off. (and correct, IMO)

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DishSubLA

May 10, 2021

eddie willers said:
Scalia wrote an excoriating dissent. He was really pissed off. (and correct, IMO)

Yes, it was Scalia who made it clear he thought it was a "Rubes Goldberg Machine" set-up (I think all the Justices felt that way) to get "around" the law, but to Scalia's credit, his dissent was that it was not for SCOTUS to invalidate a "legal," but an ethically questionable, business that was the Areo model because it was the role Congress to address if the business met every test applied from every other Court and also passed the tests in the minds of ALL the Justices.

FWIW, While I LOVED the idea of Aero, and I LOVED the idea because it was truly LEGAL, I did believe that it was unethical--not illegal--for Areo to charge any amount of money for the "Basic" service of streaming the OTA of your choice within your DMA because Areo would be making money when they were not paying anything to the broadcasters. The basic stream should have been--for ethics and even better legal footing--of NO CHARGE. Of course, Areo had its DVR trade-up plan, which has costs and Areo would be providing DVR as a service that would be designed to make a profit, which would be OK by my standards because such DVR services are LEGAL to provide at a cost to the consumer that is NEVER shared with the broadcasters and content owners such as a cable company offering its DVR services using its servers and providing SEPERATE and PRIVATE access only to the home subscriber while making some money with such a service, and all courts have found this arrangement to be legal.

Yes, I know there are arguments to be made that the DVR service of Areo would only have value because it access OTA broadcasters as the content, but I personally feel that it would be fine for Areo to provide the DVR services for a fee ONLY if Areo provided the NON-DVR basic level stream FREE of any charge. That would be the only ethical way of providing the Areo service in my view.

The Areo case is good example of technology outpacing the law, but it is up to the law--in this case the US Congress--to catch up to the tech and business model and legislate it. But the idea that Areo was making money with broadcasters' signals while Areo was not paying the broadcasters for it, just left a sour taste in the mouth of the majority of SCOTUS who thought they would just "fix it" with a decision that makes big leaps in assumptions. After all, there was no classification as to WHAT Areo was under the law. It wasn't an MVPD under the law, but SCOTUS majority seemed to think that if it is kind of like and MVPD and had attribute here and there, well that is close enough to leap to the conclusion that Areo was an MVPD, and therefore, should pay the broadcasters because it just doesn't seem right. But a court shouldn't rule on what doesn't "seem" right, but on the law that is CLEAR even if the law CLEARLY lacks a definition for what sort of service Areo is, exactly. Areo was unprecedented, so how can SCOTUS call it an MVPD, when it is NOT an MVPD? This unprecedented Areo business requires Congress to define it, not for SCOTUS to define and legislate.

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Yespage

May 10, 2021

It would be interesting if they changed the model, like some utility companies do... one price for product and one price for distribution. If they charged simply for straight-up distribution that would be legal, if they charged for the content without paying content generator, that'd be another and illegal.

If the FCC got involved, it would be possible to derive a cost per GB or TB for transmission plus an overhead and they could tell third parties, this is legal, but this is the limit. If you go DVR or charge more than the limit, then you need to deal directly with the stations.

There is a viable public need for this type of service. But this would require bureaucracy to evolve. I think the big trouble is the company is playing under a "loophole" and courts can pretend to ignore loopholes all they decide to. And these companies are way too small to out lobby the conglomerate networks. Locast should be teaming with Sat and Cable to make this legal in DC.

sjhart

May 10, 2021

Added Youtube TV (using our Apple TV) and now back watching SF Bay Area regional sports. Quality is really good. I might get used to this….

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 7 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Might want to watch this before you buy a new vehicle battery

Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU

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harshness

Yesterday at 11:33 AM

When you need a battery, you need a battery.

If you can wait, new technologies are on the not-too-distant horizon.

You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.

dishstaller

Yesterday at 12:53 PM

harshness said:
You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.

Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.

The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 1:01 PM

dishstaller said:
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.

The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.

And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

My last AGM (using now) I got from O Rielly's, its the Super Start ... I got the Platnium, they had several to choose from.

telstar_1

Yesterday at 1:14 PM

He sounds like he's trying to sell me a pocket hose.

I just had to replace a car battery this week and thought I'd look into LiFePo4. Amazon has plenty of them, but all have top posts and only one 'also' has side connections (Group 75).Then I read that they're really lousy in the cold. So, an AGM, but again, almost nothing with side terminals instead of top. In researching that, I read that most mfrs in recent years have dropped side terminals and gone back to the old top posts, which is surprising to me since those are more corrosion-prone, cause the battery to need more space and are generally more hazardous. Finally I just threw up my hands and bought a regular lead-acid at Sam's Club. They had a Group 75 "Duracell" with side terminals only. It was virtually the only such battery with side posts on their shelves

arlo

Yesterday at 2:20 PM

Had a Die Hard in my folks cellar for over 6 years. Pulled it out, slapped it on a charger for a day. Put it in my 'Cuda and drove it around for a week of my vacation. Next year, the same. But my dad kept it topped off for me.It was a mid 80's battery in early 1990.

Flooded acid batteries like a float voltage of around 13.5-13.8 voltage.
AGM needs a float of 14.2 volts. So if you slap an AGM in where a flooded was. It never gets a full charge.
"Why do they die so fast?" Question answered. There are folks who sell voltage regulators for alternators that are designed to boost float voltage for AGM batteries.
The other way around? Flooded will gas-off a little at 14.2 volts. But seems to tolerate it pretty good.

Lithium car/bike/atv batteries. After 3 batteries in my Harley. The OEM flooded and two AGM's (before the 14.2 volt float requirement to let them live was learned). I bought a lithium for it. 4 year, no gripe warranty after having it tested by an approved store.
The thing started like Thor himself sent a bolt from the sky. Except......try to start it around freezing? Nope. Needed a heating pad.
And I usually like to park it around events in the evening with the parking light on. Looks cool like that.
We could traipse around for a few hours no worries. Hop on, fire it up, and go putt around.
Lithium? A Dakota Lithium at least. The BMS shuts it right down if it discharges below <something>.
Come back. Parking lights off. Won't start. And you know the rest. But it lasted 6 years. A lot better than 'new every two'. And the fact that powersports batteries are warranted for six, maybe nine months. Ludicrous.

I called Noco. Asked all of the right questions. Great warranty. Save some bucks ordering directly, faster service that the wally world alternative.
They addressed (or claimed over the phone) that the shut down was addressed. Sure. The BMS keeps it form being damaged. But if it is shut down because it does become low. Shut down any load (key on, parking or headlights left on) for 10-15 minutes and you get a second try to start your rig. Not a bad thing if it really works. Right?!

Exide, Interstate? Be very afraid. They ain't what they used to be. In Florida my '70 Cutlass had an Interstate (early 90') that lasted 6 years until it dropped its plates at an intersection and boiled over. In Florida, mind you. The last Interstate.....done in 2. Guys down there would suck out the acid and put water in shortly before the warranty ran out. Make it to the auto parts, get them tested. And get a new one pro rated. No more pro rating.
You can't beat an Odyssey. Napa, AC Deco (the better ones). Yup.
The mom and pop Car Quest only sells Die Hard. For a reason, the old man says. So they convinced that a Die HArd Platinum was the hot ticket for me. l will see. Stand by!

You can't cut Mr. Project Farm down. He does great tests of all sorts of things. Not sponsored and pressured to slap a little sugar on his comparisons and reviews. Compared to the Brits and Aussies with their constant overzealous and same sounding (Dave from EEVblog) rant. I like P-Farm a lot. Of course I like AvE (Boltr) too.
Reminds me to beware when wearing shorts around the garage vice.

Opinions may vary.

harshness

Today at 9:17 AM

Jimbo said:
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

The days of the 84-month warranty appear long gone, regardless of brand or where you acquired it. Warranties tend to be shorter, with much greater dependence on quick prorating.

The big problem for lead-acid batteries (whether flooded or AGM) is that the US no longer produces lead (the last smelter closed in 2013) and must import it.

Recycling covers a good chunk of the need (~70%), but it isn't free.

EarDemon

16 minutes ago

I've always got regular OEM Ford Motorcraft batteries from the dealership and have never really had an issue. On my old Lincoln Aviator (the SUV from the early 00s, not the CUV of today), I had some phantom drain and went though a few batteries, but that was an anomaly and with the standard warranty I got free replacements. Taking the Aviator out of the picture, I've bought two batteries in my 24 years of driving. One battery replacement in my Mountaineer, one in my Navigator. But I probably would have had another one had I kept it around longer. Didn't have the Bronco long enough, and so far still on the factory battery for my Expedition.

I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner. I'm in Buffalo, 90 degree summers and 0 degree winters. Once in a while in the dead of winter I'll get an alert from the Ford app saying remote features have been disabled to conserve battery, but it starts right up.

dishstaller

7 minutes ago

EarDemon said:
I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 30 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 12:44 PM

Long Cool Woman (In a Black Dress) - The Hollies

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Today at 2:09 PM

Cool Jerk - The Mindbenders

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Today at 2:53 PM

Cool Change - Little River Band

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Today at 3:30 PM

Change Of The Guard - Steely Dan

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Owner Of a Lonely Heart - Yes

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply 36 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Jimbo

Today at 9:22 PM

AI Overview

College Football Playoff bracket, schedule, scores, rankings ...

The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]

Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]

- First Round: Alabama defeated Oklahoma (34–24), Miami (Fla.) beat Texas A&M (10–3), Ole Miss topped Tulane (41–10), and Oregon defeated James Madison (51–34) at higher-seeded campus sites.
- Quarterfinals: Miami (Fla.) upset Ohio State (24–14), Oregon shut out Texas Tech (23–0), top-ranked Indiana rolled past Alabama (38–3), and Ole Miss edged Georgia (39–34) across the New Year's Six bowls.
- Semifinals: Miami (Fla.) advanced past Ole Miss (31–27) in the Peach Bowl, while Indiana dominant-defeated Oregon (56–22) in the Fiesta Bowl.
- National Championship: Indiana secured the title with a 27–21 victory over Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Unfortunately, there was not rankings listed in this summary

AZ.

Today at 9:38 PM

And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.

Jimbo

Today at 9:49 PM

AZ. said:
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.

I think they are actually discussing the Top 8 get a Bye this time, if they go to 24.
Then again, I heard something about Play in games for the 16-24 teams ...

Nothing is official yet, so lots of moving parts ...

Can't wait, lets do 24, 3 years later they will want 32 :sick

Yespage

Today at 9:59 PM

AZ. said:
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.

While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.

Jimbo

36 minutes ago

Yespage said:
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.

Once the 24 gets here, there won't be anymore Conference Championships .... or so they say.

Oh what the hell, we really don't need Conferences anymore either ... :coco

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Today at 10:29 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Is it click bait or is it real

Pretty cool.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18iLQXklJuU

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osu1991

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Last reply Today at 9:02 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90

Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90

Walter Koenig, who memorably played Chekov in the original "Star Trek" series and seven "Star Trek" feature films, died Sunday in Los Angeles.

variety.com

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Bobby

Today at 2:03 PM

Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:32 PM

Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...

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FTA4PA

Today at 3:37 PM

Rest In Peace

Foxbat

Today at 9:02 PM

Rest in Peace…

JSheridan

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 9:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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MikeD-C05

Sep 26, 2026

I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.

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Scott Greczkowski

Sep 26, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH

I have the same wish.

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bnewt

Today at 3:30 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I have the same wish.

Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 4:56 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.

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Almighty1

Today at 6:28 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

And the same reason why DISH removing satellite 118 for international channels is a bad idea as at least in my case, TVB Jade World costs $29.99/month and depends on a internet connection for the signal transport to the DISH Hopper 3 + Hopper Plus to stream the channel which makes it unavailable on DISH Anywhere and also I am providing the transport pipe at my own expense when it was supposed to be a dedicated connection via satellite between DISH and the DISH equipment.

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navychop

Today at 7:37 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
As sling tv sucks eggs.

PHONE CALL FOR MISTER SCOTT G! PHONE CALL FOR MISTER SCOTT G! FROM A MISTER C ERGEN!……

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NYDutch

Today at 7:40 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.

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telstar_1

Today at 8:12 PM

Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

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Foxbat

Today at 9:01 PM

telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 5:52 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Preorders Open for the Brax Wink De-Googled Phone #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SqPMCS9OOSY

Direct YouTube Link - Preorders Open for the Brax Wink De-Googled Phone #shorts
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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:13 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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Bobby

Friday at 2:54 PM

MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

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TheForce

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Last reply Today at 4:36 PM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.

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comfortably_numb

Oct 10, 2026

Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

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Foxbat

Saturday at 11:47 AM

If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.

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comfortably_numb

Saturday at 11:56 AM

Foxbat said:
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!

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harshness

Yesterday at 12:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
medieval chain armor

Aka "mail" or "maille".

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:05 PM

IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:32 PM

Foxbat said:
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00

. can we say over priced garbage!!!

slow_poke_pete

Today at 4:36 PM

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vlad_

Last reply Today at 4:10 PM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Thinking of switching to DirecTV

I'm thinking of switching to DirecTV and wanted to know what equipment I should be asking for.

I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.

What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?

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navychop

Sep 28, 2026

I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

vlad_

Sep 29, 2026

navychop said:
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

slow_poke_pete

Sep 29, 2026

vlad_ said:
I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

Tom Speer

Sep 29, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

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Jimbo

Oct 2, 2026

JSheridan said:
The DirecTV order entry work flow doesn't allow wired clients with an HS17. Does that clear it up for you?

Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 3, 2026

Jimbo said:
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

JSheridan

Oct 3, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 4, 2026

JSheridan said:
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

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JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

b4pjoe said:
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

why not just do a rebranding of the two :what

JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
why not just do a rebranding of the two

As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

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b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

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Nominal

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works inn tour set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

JSheridan

Oct 6, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

JSheridan said:
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

Yeah that would not surprise me but they do have the option on the website for wired installs. I would guess when they show up with wireless clients most people won't object. I would but a lot of people probably would not.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

Nominal said:
It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

i do agree with jimbo on wanting to hide the HS-17 :biggrin

been there

slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

JSheridan said:
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

agree to a certain point!!! is charlies pockets gonna get tight and will he cancel channels because he don't want to pay for them??? a hopper 3 on dtv channel lineup would be amazing and every mans dream come true lol :what

robjlevin

Oct 7, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

Well, different strokes and all that. I've had that HS17 sitting quietly doing its job for almost a decade. As I mentioned earlier, at one point I had two wired and two wireless receivers. Now, just one C61K.

Even before that I had a HR44 with an HR24 and two wireless minis. Back then, which was years ago, I would have agreed with the need for individual receivers, but at this point, I stream almost everything, including shows I used to record.

It'll be moot soon enough anyway. Wired receivers/DVRs are going the way of the POTS landline. You can't stop progress.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 4:10 PM

Tom Speer said:
If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

they still won't do it if there's coax from dish in the home!!

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