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Last reply Jun 4, 2022 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Will a VIP 211k work?

I'm thinking of getting rid of my Hopper 3 and going with a 211k that I own in order to save on the $15 a month DVR fee. I really don't record much and wouldn't miss the DVR that much anyway. Would the 211k work with my current set up or would I need a technician to come to my home?

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AkaDoubleG

Jun 3, 2022

I am hoping to get some clarification as a new member here. I called Dish today and spoke with the Loyalty Department and asked if I can run a 211K or Z on my existing account. I have the DHP42 with line 1 running to my Hopper and Line 2 runs to a Holland Splitter which feeds 2 Wally's. Loyalty said if I purchased a 211K or Z I could take the coax out of 1 of my Wally's and do a self-guided set up on my purchased 211. I was happy to hear that but I wanted to talk to Dr. Dish to confirm and he then said I can't because of the Satellite Dish that feeds the Hopper system is not compatible with 211's. Before I purchase can anyone confirm if it will work or not? I have been a Dish customer for almost 20 years and like the idea of being able to run a legacy receiver. I have legacy TIVO boxes I use for OTA in my house.

ethanlerma

Jun 3, 2022

AkaDoubleG said:
I am hoping to get some clarification as a new member here. I called Dish today and spoke with the Loyalty Department and asked if I can run a 211K or Z on my existing account. I have the DHP42 with line 1 running to my Hopper and Line 2 runs to a Holland Splitter which feeds 2 Wally's. Loyalty said if I purchased a 211K or Z I could take the coax out of 1 of my Wally's and do a self-guided set up on my purchased 211. I was happy to hear that but I wanted to talk to Dr. Dish to confirm and he then said I can't because of the Satellite Dish that feeds the Hopper system is not compatible with 211's. Before I purchase can anyone confirm if it will work or not? I have been a Dish customer for almost 20 years and like the idea of being able to run a legacy receiver. I have legacy TIVO boxes I use for OTA in my house.

Either of the two lines can provide service to the 211/Z/K, but the 211's do not support channel stacking, aka the ability to use a splitter and have multiple boxes on one DPH feed. Only Wally's and Hopper Duo's are capable of this. So while the first agent was technically the correct one (the second one seems to not understand or didn't hear you had a DPH42) you are limited to only one 211 instead of the 2 Wally's. The Hopper on the other feed with work independently of what you decide to do here.

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ethanlerma

Jun 3, 2022

If you would like to add the 211 and have the Wally's still ran off of the same DPH42, you could add a DPP44 to the mix. This would take the same satellite dish feeds, provide 4 DPP connections (that either the Wally or 211's can use), and has another 4 outputs to connect another switch like the DPH42 in series.

Found this picture on Google (from this forum nonetheless) to sort of give you an idea what that would look like.

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llokey

Jun 3, 2022

AkaDoubleG said:
I wanted to talk to Dr. Dish

I would be very leery of Dr. Dish. They told me (twice) that the 4K Joey would work with my Toshiba 4K HDR tv. They even insisted that the problem was my cable and that I had to buy a 4K cable. It was only after reading at Sat Guys that I determined that Dr. Dish was reading from the wrong script. I don't even see any 4K channels on my 4K Joey.

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AkaDoubleG

Jun 4, 2022

ethanlerma said:
If you would like to add the 211 and have the Wally's still ran off of the same DPH42, you could add a DPP44 to the mix. This would take the same satellite dish feeds, provide 4 DPP connections (that either the Wally or 211's can use), and has another 4 outputs to connect another switch like the DPH42 in series.

Found this picture on Google (from this forum nonetheless) to sort of give you an idea what that would look like.

Thank you very much for your detailed responses back to me.

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AkaDoubleG

Jun 4, 2022

ethanlerma said:
Either of the two lines can provide service to the 211/Z/K, but the 211's do not support channel stacking, aka the ability to use a splitter and have multiple boxes on one DPH feed. Only Wally's and Hopper Duo's are capable of this. So while the first agent was technically the correct one (the second one seems to not understand or didn't hear you had a DPH42) you are limited to only one 211 instead of the 2 Wally's. The Hopper on the other feed with work independently of what you decide to do here.

One other question on my Main Wally I have an External Hard drive that I paid the $40 fee with Dish to have it activated as a DVR. If I was going to turn off both Wally's and purchase my VIP211K and connect the EHD would Dish charge me another $40 or is it a one time fee with the same hard drive being moved from reciever to receiver?

Bobby

Jun 4, 2022

AkaDoubleG said:
One other question on my Main Wally I have an External Hard drive that I paid the $40 fee with Dish to have it activated as a DVR. If I was going to turn off both Wally's and purchase my VIP211K and connect the EHD would Dish charge me another $40 or is it a one time fee with the same hard drive being moved from reciever to receiver?

I don't think it would cost you another $40 but the EHD plugged into your Wally is not compatible to work with a 211. The 211 would ask to reformat the drive and that would erase everything on the drive. Same thing if you were to replug it back into the Wally after formatting it for the 211.

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klang

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klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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harshness

Oct 13, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

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MikeD-C05

Oct 18, 2026

harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

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harshness

Oct 18, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

MikeD-C05

Monday at 1:35 PM

harshness said:
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

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osu1991

Monday at 1:59 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping

MikeD-C05

Yesterday at 12:25 PM

osu1991 said:
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though

Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 4:30 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.

You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 4:38 PM

Well, look at the way she sat in the Captain's Chair. I didn't say the show should have been called "Captain Chair-Whore" for nothing...

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primestar31

Yesterday at 11:00 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.

Just sayin...

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MikeD-C05

Today at 11:17 AM

Jimbo said:
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ...

For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

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Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.

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