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Last reply Jan 28, 2023 · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Comcast Weighs Pulling Some Content From Hulu in Effort to Boost Peacock

WSJ News Exclusive | Comcast Weighs Pulling Some Content From Hulu in Effort to Boost Peacock

Comcast’s NBCUniversal is in talks to remove its content from Hulu and put it on its Peacock platform, as the media giant determines how to best play its hand in the streaming wars.

www.wsj.com

NBCUniversal unit has a window allowing it to remove shows that appear on the Disney-controlled streaming service

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SamCdbs

Jan 27, 2023

Sorry, how does any of that explain how streaming is ever going to make money?

Newsflash. EVERYONE who wants streaming currently has streaming. And streaming is paying more for content than it takes in. That simple.

As to your rant.

I'm not out to save money. Life is too short. I, like most consumers, use streaming as a supplement.

False. The majority of "live TV" content remains on linear TV.

Yes, this is bad. Now, to get everything, one must pay for 8 or 10 services. Bundling protects the consumer.

Depending on one's particular internet set up. But the millions of people with bad internet, or no internet, they don't matter. Fly over people.

Incorrect. Unless you watch every single thing on a particular service, you are, just like everyone else, paying for content you don't want. In linear TV, you are paying a little because it is spread out across millions of customers and the consumer is protected. With streaming, you are paying a lot, and the consumer is unprotected. But with either, you are paying for things you don't watch.

See above. Unless you can get billed by the show, nope.

And SOME MNF games were on ESPN+ , some were not. I enjoyed ALL of them, because life is too short. I'm down a few pennies. At the end of the day, it won't matter how much money I have in my bank account. You show em.

Bruce

Jan 27, 2023

SamCdbs said:
Sorry, how does any of that explain how streaming is ever going to make money?

As they gain subscribers, profit will come, worked for Netflix, how is AT&T going to get back the $50 Billion that DirecTV has lost?

SamCdbs said:
Newsflash. EVERYONE who wants streaming currently has streaming. And streaming is paying more for content than it takes in. That simple.

And the gains Streaming Services get that are reported every quarter do not exist.

Netflix had a net gain of 9 million in 2022, so obviously not everyone, Paramount+ gains 7 million every quarter, where are those coming from if everyone that wants it has it.

SamCdbs said:
As to your rant.

I'm not out to save money. Life is too short. I, like most consumers, use streaming as a supplement.

I prefer not wasting my money and investing, I am 56, retired at 52, house is paid for, cars, never have to worry unless the economy craters, but then everyone is screwed .

By being careful has allowed me the above, considering I grew up extremely poor, I am extra proud of the above.

SamCdbs said:
False. The majority of "live TV" content remains on linear TV.

True, the majority of content on Live TV Channels are also on streaming services, CBS and all other Viacom Cable Channels on Paramount+, NBC and Universal owned Cable Channels on Peacock, ABC , Fox and all of Disney and Fox Cable Channels on Hulu and Disney+, Warner/Discovery Cable Channels on HBOMAX and Discovery, AMC+.

The only thing left is a few sporting events, like I wrote before, end of 2025 at the latest.

SamCdbs said:
Yes, this is bad. Now, to get everything, one must pay for 8 or 10 services. Bundling protects the consumer.

That is the plus, you can have as many as you want or little, for example, do not get Discovery+ or AMC+ because I never watch them.

SamCdbs said:
Depending on one's particular internet set up. But the millions of people with bad internet, or no internet, they don't matter. Fly over people.

The vast majority have fast enough internet, now at 90% of Households.

SamCdbs said:
Incorrect. Unless you watch every single thing on a particular service, you are, just like everyone else, paying for content you don't want. In linear TV, you are paying a little because it is spread out across millions of customers and the consumer is protected.

Paying a little?

The average DirecTV monthly bill is $140, that is not a little, just because you pay $65 because you share it with your landlord definitely does not mean everyone else does.

Heck Comcast is $50-60 with just the fees added on the monthly bill of at least $70.

SamCdbs said:
With streaming, you are paying a lot, and the consumer is unprotected. But with either, you are paying for things you don't watch.

How is the customer unprotected, that makes no sense, if you want just Hulu and Paramount, just get that, if you want everything get that, even if you subscribe to every on demand streaming service it is less then the average direcTV bill, and with tons more content and better quality.

SamCdbs said:
And SOME MNF games were on ESPN+ , some were not. I enjoyed ALL of them, because life is too short. I'm down a few pennies. At the end of the day, it won't matter how much money I have in my bank account. You show em.

And you were saying none, then you kept going on and saying only the Manning Cast would be on ESPN+, you kept saying that over and over, even when other members were telling you were incorrect.

SamCdbs

Jan 28, 2023

Bruce said:
As they gain subscribers, profit will come, worked for Netflix, how is AT&T going to get back the $50 Billion that DirecTV has lost?

Wow. You do understand the difference between operating profit and purchase price.

AT&T overpaid for DirecTV. But DirecTV continues to make money. The overpayment is a matter for the stock market to sort out. No money was "lost".

Streaming operates at loss. That is real money. Evey day it spends more than it takes in. You, and they, have no plan for it to make money.

Bruce said:
Netflix had a net gain of 9 million in 2022, so obviously not everyone, Paramount+ gains 7 million every quarter, where are those coming from if everyone that wants it has it.

Well why don't they have it then?

They are sitting around dumbfounded, trying to figure out how to subscribe to it?

EVERYONE who wants it, has it.

Bruce said:
I prefer not wasting my money and investing, I am 56, retired at 52, house is paid for, cars, never have to worry unless the economy craters, but then everyone is screwed .

You show em.

I'm too busy enjoying life.

Which is why I am on this TELEVISION ENTHUAST website talking about television.

Not coupons, reusing oil filters, riding the bus, or how I really don't miss the TV shows I won't buy.

Because I have everything. Life is too short.

Bruce said:
majority

Majority. All. Two different concepts.

Life is too short. All, please.

Bruce said:
The only thing left is a few sporting events, like I wrote before, end of 2025 at the latest.

And, please show me the math.

The experts say that ESPN should cost upwards of $50.

Why are they wrong and you right.

Math please.

Bruce said:
The vast majority have fast enough internet, now at 90% of Households.

Not really, but OK. So you now understand that 10% of the country has TV needs that can only be met by DBS (same people with crap internet have crap cable).

Bruce said:
Paying a little?

Yes. Basic business.

With linear TV, the cost of any one particular channel, or genre, is spread out among millions and millions of customers. Everyone pays a little, and a vast plethora of content is produced. With streaming, the costs are spread out across far less people.

Result. The consumer is unprotected. Eventually? Rebundling and less content.

The consumer is protected by bundling. Much more content is produced.

And cable and DBS remain awash in profit.

Unlike streaming.

Juan

Jan 28, 2023

SamCdbs said:
Wow. You do understand the difference between operating profit and purchase price.

AT&T overpaid for DirecTV. But DirecTV continues to make money. The overpayment is a matter for the stock market to sort out. No money was "lost".

Streaming operates at loss. That is real money. Evey day it spends more than it takes in. You, and they, have no plan for it to make money.

Well why don't they have it then?

They are sitting around dumbfounded, trying to figure out how to subscribe to it?

EVERYONE who wants it, has it.

You show em.

I'm too busy enjoying life.

Which is why I am on this TELEVISION ENTHUAST website talking about television.

Not coupons, reusing oil filters, riding the bus, or how I really don't miss the TV shows I won't buy.

Because I have everything. Life is too short.

Majority. All. Two different concepts.

Life is too short. All, please.

And, please show me the math.

The experts say that ESPN should cost upwards of $50.

Why are they wrong and you right.

Math please.

Not really, but OK. So you now understand that 10% of the country has TV needs that can only be met by DBS (same people with crap internet have crap cable).

Yes. Basic business.

With linear TV, the cost of any one particular channel, or genre, is spread out among millions and millions of customers. Everyone pays a little, and a vast plethora of content is produced. With streaming, the costs are spread out across far less people.

Result. The consumer is unprotected. Eventually? Rebundling and less content.

The consumer is protected by bundling. Much more content is produced.

And cable and DBS remain awash in profit.

Unlike streaming.

The reason sports hasn't switched to streaming is piracy...its a huge issue with soccer ( football) across the pond in europe...as streaming prices increase..piracy will increase..but the production costs of live sports is a tremendous expense that is easy to recoup with satellite/ cable

EU fields call to tackle live-events piracy

Broadcasters, sports and culture industries want the European Commission to present a law to crack down on pirated livestreams of sports and concerts.

www.politico.eu

Bruce

Jan 28, 2023

Juan said:
The reason sports hasn't switched to streaming is piracy...its a huge issue with soccer ( football) across the pond in europe...as streaming prices increase..piracy will increase..but the production costs of live sports is a tremendous expense that is easy to recoup with satellite/ cable

EU fields call to tackle live-events piracy

Broadcasters, sports and culture industries want the European Commission to present a law to crack down on pirated livestreams of sports and concerts.

www.politico.eu

Sports have been streaming for years, it is only now that some are an exclusive with streaming.

Juan

Jan 28, 2023

Bruce said:
Sports have been streaming for years, it is only now that some are an exclusive with streaming.

Not the NFL

ncted

Jan 28, 2023

Juan said:
Not the NFL

Well, yes and no. Ever heard of Reddit streams?

Also, I've watched plenty of NFL games on Amazon, Paramount+, and Peacock so...

https://www.amazon.com/salp/tnf

Watch NFL on CBS: Stream Live Games - Paramount+

NFL on CBS games carried by your local CBS station are available to stream live with Paramount+. The full NFL on CBS schedule features more than 100 games, from the preseason all the way through the playoffs.

www.paramountplus.com

Sunday Night Football | Watch NFL Games | Peacock

Stream all Sunday Night Football games including preseason and playoffs on Peacock. Stream Sunday Night Football games LIVE and tons of other sports.

www.peacocktv.com

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Bruce

Jan 28, 2023

SamCdbs said:
Wow. You do understand the difference between operating profit and purchase price.

AT&T overpaid for DirecTV. But DirecTV continues to make money. The overpayment is a matter for the stock market to sort out. No money was "lost".

Ok, since AT&T bought them, show me where they have made back the $52 Billion dollars difference between then and today, net income, profit.

They still paid in real money $67 Billion dollars (including debt), so if they made 8 billion in profit the last 9 years, they are short $58 Billion.

Then if the value of company is only $15 billion as they list it in the TPG deal, $15+ 8 they made, $23 Billion, so a loss of $44 Billion, real money.

SamCdbs said:
You show em.

I'm too busy enjoying life.

As am I.

I can do whatever I what, buy whatever , watch whatever i want, spend time with my dogs, go to the gym, going to Disney Hollywood in 2 weeks with my daughter to check out Galaxy Edge, play Video Games on my PS5 and XBOX X, read Omnibus', etc, etc.

Being retired for 4 years now, only 56 this year, all I had to do was save money and invest

SamCdbs said:
Which is why I am on this TELEVISION ENTHUAST website talking about television.

And I have a Television, so I am here, have a 85" Sony Z9K, also have a Optoma Laser Projector with a 165" Screen in my outside theater.

We can talk about Sound Systems next if you wish.

SamCdbs said:
Not coupons, reusing oil filters, riding the bus, or how I really don't miss the TV shows I won't buy.

I have no idea why you are against saving money, by being careful we have bought 3 houses and sold 2, put 2 kids thru college, put myself thru college ( with some help from the Army), never bought a used car, but at the same time, never overspent on a new car ( until now, have a Mach E and buying a Tesla next week).

And put enough away into our investment account over 30 years that I never will have to worry.

And again, I grew up extremely poor, I appreciate money and know how to treat it properly.by not wasting it.

SamCdbs said:
Because I have everything. Life is too short.

Of course you do.

SamCdbs said:
The experts say that ESPN should cost upwards of $50.

Again, that price was if it became a Netflix service only, not if it is on both Traditional Providers and streaming.

Live TV Providers are down another, at least, 6 million subscribers, that is another $54 million, or $648 million on top of all the other losses they already have in per sub fees.

If you a want better example, if Live TV still had 100 million subs, instead of 68 million, that is a total of $3.456 Billion yearly they are now losing out on.

SamCdbs said:
With linear TV, the cost of any one particular channel, or genre, is spread out among millions and millions of customers. Everyone pays a little, and a vast plethora of content is produced. With streaming, the costs are spread out across far less people.

Why do you want to keep spending everyone's money and make them pay for content they do not want or never watch?

And that little adds up, when the average Cable/Sat bill is well over $100, most of the content is reruns and stuck most do not watch, glad there are alternatives.

You only pay $65 because you share your DirecTV account with your landlord, yet you want everyone else to cover the expense.

That is pretty hypocritical.

SamCdbs said:
And cable and DBS remain awash in profit.

Based on how much AT&T paid for DirecTV, they are still in the red.

And look at Comcast 4th Quarter report, right in future guidance, they said profits will continue to erode due to the losses in Video Subscribers.

SamCdbs said:
Unlike streaming.

Again, it will take some time, some will make profit quicker, some might take a little while, some will not make it.

But no matter how you spin it, Paid Traditional Live TV has been losing subs the last 9 years and the number of losses increases every year, 2022, at least 6 million gone, that is up, 4.5 million losses in 2021.

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Juan

Jan 28, 2023

ncted said:
Well, yes and no. Ever heard of Reddit streams?

Also, I've watched plenty of NFL games on Amazon, Paramount+, and Peacock so...

https://www.amazon.com/salp/tnf

Watch NFL on CBS: Stream Live Games - Paramount+

NFL on CBS games carried by your local CBS station are available to stream live with Paramount+. The full NFL on CBS schedule features more than 100 games, from the preseason all the way through the playoffs.

www.paramountplus.com

Sunday Night Football | Watch NFL Games | Peacock

Stream all Sunday Night Football games including preseason and playoffs on Peacock. Stream Sunday Night Football games LIVE and tons of other sports.

www.peacocktv.com

If you overprice it..people will more likely steal it..with directv sunday ticket was discounted on a service they paid for..with streaming..its full price on bundled with a bunch of non sports channels which may or may not interest people...with my example of extremly popular european soccer ( nfl would be our closest sports equivalent).. more people steal than pay the extremely high price for it...law enforcement concentrates on breaking up illegal streaming operations instead of routine crimes...it will be fun to see how this shakes out....analog cable theft in the 80s and 90s was common but digital cable put the kabosh on it..streaming is much harder to control

Bruce

Jan 28, 2023

Juan said:
Not the NFL

You are just full of misinformation, you need to start using Google before you post things, for example-

From Dec 1, 2016

CBS All Access will start streaming NFL games this Sunday

You can watch games in markets where CBS offers live streaming.

www.theverge.com

Peacock has had SNF since it started in 2020

ESPN+ had 11 of 17 MNF games, 2 wild card games and the game from Europe on this current season, next season all MNF games.

And of course, NFLST next season via YT/Google/YTTV.

Again, the next 2 years will be a transition period, by then everything on Live TV, sports and all, will be streaming.

Bruce

Jan 28, 2023

Juan said:
If you overprice it..people will more likely steal it..with directv sunday ticket was discounted on a service they paid for..with streaming..its full price on bundled with a bunch of non sports channels which may or may not interest people...with my example of extremly popular european soccer ( nfl would be our closest sports equivalent).. more people steal than pay the extremely high price for it...law enforcement concentrates on breaking up illegal streaming operations instead of routine crimes...it will be fun to see how this shakes out....analog cable theft in the 80s and 90s was common but digital cable put the kabosh on it..streaming is much harder to control

I just realized this is your next pivot after losing another debate on Cord Cutting, if this bothers you so much, amazed you are not upset about Password sharing, which based on your earlier posts, you were ok with.

meStevo

Jan 28, 2023

Juan said:
with directv sunday ticket was discounted on a service they paid for..with streaming..its full price on bundled with a bunch of non sports channels which may or may not interest people

So you think it won't be available a la carte either or is this just a bungled point trying to fit in all this FUD about piracy?

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 5 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Hughesnet cancelling email addresses

Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.

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Foxbat

Today at 2:37 PM

Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…

navychop

Today at 3:16 PM

Foxbat said:
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Foxbat

Today at 3:30 PM

navychop said:
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…

klang

Today at 4:21 PM

Foxbat said:
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.

JSheridan

Today at 4:51 PM

Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.

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EarDemon

5 minutes ago

Yep, I got the notification a few days ago. I'm not totally surprised.

Never used the address for anything, so no big loss to me.

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meStevo

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Last reply 6 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

The Diplomat (Netflix)

Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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klang

Oct 16, 2025

Probably starting season 3 tonight.

meStevo

Oct 16, 2025

Finished it this evening. General impressions with no story spoilers, but will spoil it anyways as it just came out today.

Not quite as impactful of a finale as past seasons I thought, we'll see how far down the rabbit hole things go as the latest plot twists and turns unravel. Thought this season had a full episode or two too much rom-com style disagreements, but it was more or less paid off later. Ultimately didn't enjoy that being more of a throughline in the stories this season compared to what I remember of the priors.

My least favorite of the 3 seasons, but still very good. Really wonder how far they'll go with things, hard to see a nuclear attack or something ever actually happening. They just had a better story to tell and more meaningful beats in the prior season.

KAB

Oct 17, 2025

Not in a hurry to watch it this time.

klang

Oct 21, 2025

Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.

meStevo

6 minutes ago

One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Bobby

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Last reply 29 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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jsmit86

Oct 7, 2026

Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.

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long_time_Dish

Saturday at 6:31 PM

148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 8:48 PM

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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Foxbat

Today at 6:24 PM

Bobby said:
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

Bobby said:
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

Bobby said:
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

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Bobby

59 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

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Bobby

29 minutes ago

Bobby said:
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

38 minutes ago · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

A State Cyber-emergency in Japan

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5R5Aw27yr0

Direct YouTube Link - A State Cyber-emergency in Japan
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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38 minutes ago · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

AI and Mathematicians

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEmNun8Ms4s

Direct YouTube Link - AI and Mathematicians
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Foxbat

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Last reply 44 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.

www.apple.com

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:30 PM

I've saved a boatload of money!

navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:59 PM

The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.

navychop

Today at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

44 minutes ago

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only stick I with the Apple tv's is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is not worth sticking with it. Later, Apple!

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Last reply Today at 7:30 PM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

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KyL416

Oct 8, 2026

PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.

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doctor J

Yesterday at 7:19 AM

Weekly Analysis for 10/14/2026:

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KyL416

Yesterday at 7:23 AM

NBA League Pass prep

Some more reshuffles

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:49 PM

KyL416 said:
The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

They finally announced ClipperVision, it will be on DIRECTV, but they didn't provide a channel number yet.

EDIT: It's going to be on channel 693

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KyL416

Today at 6:36 PM

KyL416 said:
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX

These are now live on stream and weren't testing on satellite as of yesterday:
WETM-DT/19 CW Elmira
WJET-DT/25 CW Erie
KLFY-DT/11 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 CW Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 CW Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 CW Utica
KFDX-DT/4 CW Wichita Falls

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KyL416

Today at 7:30 PM

KyL416 said:
The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers

Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.

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dfergie

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Last reply Today at 7:23 PM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS: Origins

Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.

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dfergie

Sep 8, 2026

Season 3 trailer…

View: https://youtu.be/qBrp4fdh9bc?is=8A8NEJu2DdgP-tDm

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dfergie

Today at 4:38 PM

Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...

reubenray

Today at 4:48 PM

dfergie said:
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...

Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?

dfergie

Today at 6:06 PM

Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

reubenray

Today at 7:23 PM

dfergie said:
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.

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Lon.TV

Today at 7:02 PM · posted in Lon.TV

HP Googlebook 14 Review !

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Anony55

Last reply Today at 6:18 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Has Made it Impossible to be a VIP211k Owner

For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.

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Nebugeater

Dec 22, 2025

Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

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telstar_1

Feb 5, 2026

Class action.

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Former member 208119

Feb 10, 2026

lovin my hopper 3 and my wireless joey i can roll the tv all over the house if i wanted to

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Former member 208119

Feb 10, 2026

telstar_1 said:
Class action.

a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's

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tparker

Sep 30, 2026

Nebugeater said:
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

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Nebugeater

Oct 2, 2026

tparker said:
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

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Anony55

Today at 6:18 PM

Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.

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