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First, I'm having a hard time finding a channel by channel comparison between the two, can anyone point me to that if it exists?

Also, I know DTV doesn't have a lot of 4k outside of PPV, but does DTV Stream still have no 4k or has some been added, or there are plans to add?
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AMike
I have been a DirecTV customer on/off since 1999. I have been preparing for the inevitable switch to a streaming service. I have experimented with DirecTV stream, Fubo, and Comcast's stream to get a taste of options. Yesterday, I saw my bill from D* and for some reason it got to me. I decided that's it, I've had enough and I am going to make the switch. I make the call to D* to cancel and the retention person begins to sell me on DirecTV Stream. He told me that the best way to order is through the website to get unlimited DVR and discounts. He tells me that he is not trying to sell me on this (nudge, nudge). He then offers me a discount on satellite, but I decided, I think I'll cancel.

Of course, I took the advice and signed up for DirecTV stream. I just made sure I used a different e-mail address.
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I have been a DirecTV customer on/off since 1999. I have been preparing for the inevitable switch to a streaming service. I have experimented with DirecTV stream, Fubo, and Comcast's stream to get a taste of options. Yesterday, I saw my bill from D* and for some reason it got to me. I decided that's it, I've had enough and I am going to make the switch. I make the call to D* to cancel and the retention person begins to sell me on DirecTV Stream. He told me that the best way to order is through the website to get unlimited DVR and discounts. He tells me that he is not trying to sell me on this (nudge, nudge). He then offers me a discount on satellite, but I decided, I think I'll cancel.

Of course, I took the advice and signed up for DirecTV stream. I just made sure I used a different e-mail address

i would be interested in how the 2 compare, as i am looking at doing the same thing in the next couple of months
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i would be interested in how the 2 compare, as i am looking at doing the same thing in the next couple of months
From posts around the web I've read by people who've switched from DTV sat to DTV Stream, I'd recap it like this:

  • HD picture quality is as good or even slightly better on Stream but Stream does not offer any 4K content at all.
  • While Stream does not suffer from rain/snow fade like sat, it is completely dependent on your internet connection. If your internet goes out, you can't watch anything, even your cloud DVR recordings. You'll want to make sure you have a solid wifi connection (or wired ethernet) at each of your home's TVs. One good thing, though, is that even if your internet goes out, your cloud DVR recordings will still happen on their servers and be waiting for you when your home internet comes back.
  • Stream has *nearly* all the same channels in a given package (e.g. Entertainment, Choice, Ultimate, Premier) as sat but it is missing a few (which may or may not matter to you). Be sure to check which locals you get (via their website, you put in your zip code) because in some areas the local CW and/or My Network TV and/or independent station (e.g. Chicago's WGN 9) is missing on Stream. Among national channels, Stream lacks NFL Network, INSP, ION, MeTV, shopping channels, religious channels, west coast feeds of national cable channels, and some of the secondary premium channels (e.g. HBO Signature, Showtime Women), in case any of that matters to you. Also note that DTV's Sports Pack, which contains out-of-market RSNs with the actual games blacked out (but still let you watch the pre- and post-game coverage, news/talk, etc.), is NOT available on Stream. Also, NFL Sunday Ticket is NOT available on Stream.
  • Stream's cloud DVR generally works well. Benefits are unlimited storage and unlimited "tuners," so you can record on as many channels at once as you like. Plus your recordings are accessible on any screen, in or out of home. Downsides are that recordings expire after 9 months, you're limited to a max of about 30 episode recordings per series, it doesn't do slo-mo playback, you can't build up a rewindable buffer on two different live channels at the same time (only on the single channel you're currently watching), and you can't customize recording times, for instance to extend them in case a sports event runs over. However, the Stream cloud DVR tries to automatically extend recordings for events/shows that run long. From what I read, it's a work in progress; sometimes it works, sometimes not. Another perk of the cloud DVR is that, for some sports, you can set it to record every game featuring a particular team.
  • A given channel package on Stream with free unlimited cloud DVR costs around 30% less than on sat with a single HD DVR. As you go up into more expensive channel packages, the savings increase. Likewise, the more sat TV boxes you rent, the greater the savings by going with Stream. But note that that's based on paying the full regular price for sat service. Lots of people get discounts, so you'll have to do your own comparison. When comparing, understand that the Choice and up packages (which include RSNs) do NOT have an RSN add-on fee with Stream but they do with sat. Also, be aware that if you sign up for Stream via their website, you get unlimited cloud DVR service included for free.
  • Some people love using the DTV Stream box and remote, which you can buy new for $120 or refurbished (same 1-yr warranty) for $50 at sign-up, because it has channel numbers and feels much more like using DTV sat. It makes for a very easy transition. Other folks are happier using the DTV Stream app on their Roku, Apple TV or Fire TV box/stick with a simpler remote. The Stream box is completely optional and you never rent them, you buy them. If you buy new for $120, you can finance it at zero-interest at $5/mo for 24 months with the remaining balance due if you cancel service before 24 months. Their box runs a customized version of Google's Android TV and has access to thousands of apps from the Google app store and has Google Assistant built in through the voice remote. Generally speaking, folks seem to say that the DTV Stream service itself works best on that box but the user experience with other streaming services (e.g. Netflix, HBO Max, etc.) is better on a retail streaming device (e.g. Roku, etc.). So it's a bit of a trade-off. May come down to how much you use DTV Stream vs. streaming apps.
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From posts around the web I've read by people who've switched from DTV sat to DTV Stream, I'd recap it like this:

  • HD picture quality is as good or even slightly better on Stream but Stream does not offer any 4K content at all.
  • While Stream does not suffer from rain/snow fade like sat, it is completely dependent on your internet connection. If your internet goes out, you can't watch anything, even your cloud DVR recordings. You'll want to make sure you have a solid wifi connection (or wired ethernet) at each of your home's TVs. One good thing, though, is that even if your internet goes out, your cloud DVR recordings will still happen on their servers and be waiting for you when your home internet comes back.
  • Stream has *nearly* all the same channels in a given package (e.g. Entertainment, Choice, Ultimate, Premier) as sat but it is missing a few (which may or may not matter to you). Be sure to check which locals you get (via their website, you put in your zip code) because in some areas the local CW and/or My Network TV and/or independent station (e.g. Chicago's WGN 9) is missing on Stream. Among national channels, Stream lacks NFL Network, INSP, ION, MeTV, shopping channels, religious channels, west coast feeds of national cable channels, and some of the secondary premium channels (e.g. HBO Signature, Showtime Women), in case any of that matters to you. Also note that DTV's Sports Pack, which contains out-of-market RSNs with the actual games blacked out (but still let you watch the pre- and post-game coverage, news/talk, etc.), is NOT available on Stream. Also, NFL Sunday Ticket is NOT available on Stream.
  • Stream's cloud DVR generally works well. Benefits are unlimited storage and unlimited "tuners," so you can record on as many channels at once as you like. Plus your recordings are accessible on any screen, in or out of home. Downsides are that recordings expire after 9 months, you're limited to a max of about 30 episode recordings per series, it doesn't do slo-mo playback, you can't build up a rewindable buffer on two different live channels at the same time (only on the single channel you're currently watching), and you can't customize recording times, for instance to extend them in case a sports event runs over. However, the Stream cloud DVR tries to automatically extend recordings for events/shows that run long. From what I read, it's a work in progress; sometimes it works, sometimes not. Another perk of the cloud DVR is that, for some sports, you can set it to record every game featuring a particular team.
  • A given channel package on Stream with free unlimited cloud DVR costs around 30% less than on sat with a single HD DVR. As you go up into more expensive channel packages, the savings increase. Likewise, the more sat TV boxes you rent, the greater the savings by going with Stream. But note that that's based on paying the full regular price for sat service. Lots of people get discounts, so you'll have to do your own comparison. When comparing, understand that the Choice and up packages (which include RSNs) do NOT have an RSN add-on fee with Stream but they do with sat. Also, be aware that if you sign up for Stream via their website, you get unlimited cloud DVR service included for free.
  • Some people love using the DTV Stream box and remote, which you can buy new for $120 or refurbished (same 1-yr warranty) for $50 at sign-up, because it has channel numbers and feels much more like using DTV sat. It makes for a very easy transition. Other folks are happier using the DTV Stream app on their Roku, Apple TV or Fire TV box/stick with a simpler remote. The Stream box is completely optional and you never rent them, you buy them. If you buy new for $120, you can finance it at zero-interest at $5/mo for 24 months with the remaining balance due if you cancel service before 24 months. Their box runs a customized version of Google's Android TV and has access to thousands of apps from the Google app store and has Google Assistant built in through the voice remote. Generally speaking, folks seem to say that the DTV Stream service itself works best on that box but the user experience with other streaming services (e.g. Netflix, HBO Max, etc.) is better on a retail streaming device (e.g. Roku, etc.). So it's a bit of a trade-off. May come down to how much you use DTV Stream vs. streaming apps.
thanks for the info
i think i could save @ 50/month. i have a genie and an hr24
i wouldnt mind staying with directv, but the lack of new equipment tellme not to. i do not consider the hs17 an upgrade from what i have. more boxes, same number of tuners.
im going to try it with my firetv for a bit see how that works
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thanks for the info
i think i could save @ 50/month. i have a genie and an hr24
i wouldnt mind staying with directv, but the lack of new equipment tellme not to. i do not consider the hs17 an upgrade from what i have. more boxes, same number of tuners.
im going to try it with my firetv for a bit see how that works
I've read others saying that they put their DTV sat account on pause/hold and then signed up online for DTV Stream using a different email address than the one they have on file for their DTV sat account. That way, they can try out DTV Stream. If they like it, then they just call DTV back up and tell them to cancel the sat service. If they don't like it, they can cancel DTV Stream within 14 days and not pay anything, then call DTV back up and have them un-pause the sat service.

Oh, in case you have a free Rakuten cash back account, be aware that if you click through Rakuten first before going to the DirecTV website to sign up for Stream, you can get $37.50 cash back from Rakuten.
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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navychop
I know of no reason to buy from a cell company.

Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.
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I got a carrier-locked iPhone once, and it was a pain after they got bought by Sprint and I decided to go to T-Mobile and they dragged their feet to unlock the phone. I have been trading in my iPhones since and buying from the Apple Store since then.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.
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So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?
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So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.
navychop
Cough, cough, Hopper3!
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There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.
Thanks, Bobby.
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chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.
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Smuuth
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED  DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
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b4pjoe
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.
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You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.
Jimbo
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.
Take the $10 and Call Back ...
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Take the $10 and Call Back ...
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results. 🤬
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I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results. 🤬
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.


I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
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Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit. 🙄
Jimbo
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit. 🙄
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.
Smuuth
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.
Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.
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Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it
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Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.
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I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.
a tablo box is cheaper
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why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Does cable charge box rent?
The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99

Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98

National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93

Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog
I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Does cable charge box rent?
yes big cable charges crazy dvr fee's and box rental fee's
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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HipKat
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks
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First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks
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I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks
I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales
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I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Time Stand Still - Rush
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I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas
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Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band
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Little Band of Gold - Sonny James
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Band Of Gold - Freda Payne
teachsac
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House of the Dragon, the prequel to Game of Thrones, premieres on HBO Max on 8/21. I will be warching



View: https://youtu.be/fNwwt25mheo


S~
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That was as bad as the rest of the show. Jean Smart was mostly invisible.
Jim S.
I prefer the trailer for the movie adaptation of Mario Kart. At least that had Pedro Pascal in it.
harshness
"A new line of unsullied kings" would seem impossible given the GoT definition of "unsullied". :biggrin
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natevw
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Hi all, I recently inherited a FTA system off Craiglist and have been trying to get it set up. What I got was a Glorystar-branded ~90cm offset dish with a ground mount (/flat roof) frame, and GEOSATpro DSR200c receiver. From that initial equipment, I've replaced the old LNBF with a (cheap!) new one and also splurged on an SG-2100 H-H motorized rotor which does respond from the receiver's USALS menu.

The previous owner had it set up for religious programming on Galaxy 19 and I've been trying to start by finding that same bird at least. After a couple sessions I'm not sure I have, but I've found *something* at least! A handful of motor ticks further than the dish wants to be for 97W after starting from motor 0 pointing as much south as I can guess at. (I don't have great references to aim for and it's really hard to sight where exactly the dish is pointing anyway….)

Anyway, so far there's only one transponder that I've ever been able to catch as I search. It's 12146 V and when the receiver scans it I get this list of video channels:
  • 1.1 Srv_1
  • 2.84 OU_Chan
  • 3.2 Srv_2
  • 4.5 Srv_5
  • 5.3 Srv_3
  • 6.4 Srv_4
  • 7.6 Srv_6
  • 8.7 Srv_7
There's iirc three audio channels it finds too but I didn't get a good snapshot of those. All the channels except for one seem to be dead (black screen and silent audio), except for the OU_Chan one which on both days I found it was just rolling one same ad over and over on a loop. I won't repeat the full roll since I don't want to spam the forums as my first post 😇 but it's a long-winded spiel about "you know us as an industry-leading satellite solutions provider with over a quarter million sites" and to call them For All Your Every Needs™ type thing.

While I get little blips from other frequencies, this is the only strong transponder I've been able to come across. My receiver shows it as S 75 and Q up to 85 when I adjust it. It actually seemed to get better as I **un**skewed my LBNF — iiuc G19 was supposed to be -20º for me but however I'm supposed to be reading/referencing the angles the puck is now basically at 0º relative to the dish/arm got the strongest on this transponder.

Anyway sorry this is so long winded already… my question is, do I even have the right satellite? None of the other transponders that are supposed to be active on G-19 seem to come in. And if not the right satellite does anyone happen to recognize which one I might have found instead? I think knowing that would help me then adjust for a truer south aim and then hopeful the USALS will work automatically once I can get it dialed in.
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cyberham
Correct LO setting to 10600 MHz. Set receiver to 12053 V 22000. Use USALS to motor over to 97W Galaxy 19. Then, loosen bolts and rotate entire assembly (motor & dish) very slightly east or west until you peak on that transponder.

You should be able to blind scan in 6 transponders (DVB-S) and dozens of channels.

When using a motor, just set skew of LNB for 0 degrees and don't change it. The motor automatically rotates the dish to the correct skew.
natevw
Correct LO setting to 10600 MHz. Set receiver to 12053 V 22000. Use USALS to motor over to 97W Galaxy 19. Then, loosen bolts and rotate entire assembly (motor & dish) very slightly east or west until you peak on that transponder.
Done and done and done! I ended up doing a bit more iteration (back and forth between the left-right and up-down adjustments) but I've now got it landing on G19 at its default position for 97W.

You should be able to blind scan in 6 transponders (DVB-S) and dozens of channels.
Yep, ended up with a page or two full on my receiver's search. Didn't double-check that my receiver has all six of the right transponders but I can mess with that later if it turns out I'm missing something interesting but still DVB-S / MPEG-2 compatible.
When using a motor, just set skew of LNB for 0 degrees and don't change it. The motor automatically rotates the dish to the correct skew.
Yep, can see definite signal degradation as soon as I skew the LNB either way from "straight" (seam on the LNB lined up with the clamps on the mounting bracket). Will make setup easier if I want to try swapping anything else in!

I don't know if there's any good (unencrypted, DVB-S) satellite farther away to really check the sweep against, but I was at least able to program in my original find at 101.0 W back in (now at the correct "12000 V 20000" setting) and can get both birds automatically.

Shouldn't be *that* exciting since it's just an ad, but still really fun to choose channels on the other one and have it jog over and lock on 🤓
cyberham
Motor over to 123W Galaxy 18 and try for 12078 V 3680 (Korean Broadcasting System). It is DVB-S. And 12008 H 12660 (Daystar mux) on the same satellite.

Beyond these, you'll need your new receiver that supports DVB-S2.
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Done and done and done! I ended up doing a bit more iteration (back and forth between the left-right and up-down adjustments) but I've now got it landing on G19 at its default position for 97W.


Yep, ended up with a page or two full on my receiver's search. Didn't double-check that my receiver has all six of the right transponders but I can mess with that later if it turns out I'm missing something interesting but still DVB-S / MPEG-2 compatible.

Yep, can see definite signal degradation as soon as I skew the LNB either way from "straight" (seam on the LNB lined up with the clamps on the mounting bracket). Will make setup easier if I want to try swapping anything else in!

I don't know if there's any good (unencrypted, DVB-S) satellite farther away to really check the sweep against, but I was at least able to program in my original find at 101.0 W back in (now at the correct "12000 V 20000" setting) and can get both birds automatically.

Shouldn't be *that* exciting since it's just an ad, but still really fun to choose channels on the other one and have it jog over and lock on 🤓
beside 123W, another one to try (if it's above the horizon at your location) is Hispasat @30W. It has at least 2 DVB-S transponders with SD/Mpeg2 channels
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Motor over to 123W Galaxy 18 and try for 12078 V 3680 (Korean Broadcasting System). It is DVB-S. And 12008 H 12660 (Daystar mux) on the same satellite.

No luck finding this one. I motor over and it seems like a pretty dead spot of sky. I did get a slight blip (Q up to 1% or 2%) if I lowered the dish slightly. So I wonder if my polar mount itself maybe needs a bit of fine tuning?

Even when loosening the bolts and manually nudging the dish up/down/left/right nothing seemed to really wake it [new receiver, see below!] up and never saw anything more than 4% or 5% which I don't know is even real or could have been just noise?

beside 123W, another one to try (if it's above the horizon at your location) is Hispasat @30W.
I'm in Washington state (northwest CONUS) so this one's not an option for me.

Beyond these, you'll need your new receiver that supports DVB-S2.
I now have a V8 Finder 2 :-)

I've been able to scan in more now on G-19, and as well as watching the ad on SES 1 and getting some PBS stations there and G-16 both. So three satellites kinda in the general vicinity of each other (97W/101W/99.1W) programmed and able to rotate between.

Is G-18 at 123W as strong as the others? According to Satbeams I should be at least somewhat in its footprint although it looks like it's maybe focused more on Alaska.

Now that I'm back at my computer waiting for the Finder to charge back up looks like the Eutelsat(s) 117W have a couple Ku transponders I could look for too.
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cyberham
On 117W, try for BVN. It has a C/N lock of just 1.0 dB so it's easy to receive. See transponder data on Lyngsat. 123W is receivable. Your motor is not perfectly on the arc yet.