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OK folks, I've been away from Dish (and this board) for quite a while, almost six years now. I'm considering coming back to Dish as I'm having issues with Spectrum and its waning cablecard support for TiVo. So I've still got a basic understanding of how satellite works, but some of the new receivers and features recently introduced by Dish have me a bit confused, even after reading our site here and dish.com. Maybe I can get some info? (I see it still says "Guru" by my name, but I sure don't feel like one right now! ;)

First of all, I see that when I go to sign up, the local channels have been broken out. I still have the old OTA USB adapter for my previous Dish DVR that did a pretty good job of recording locals and their subchannels on my old DVR. Any chance this still works with the new equipment?


When I try to signup online, I am offered a Hopper 2 or a Hopper Duo DVR. But elsewhere in the website Dish is offering the Hopper 3. Is the three currently available for all subscribers?

What are the current ongoing disputes? What channels has Dish dropped and are unlikely to return? I see "HBOMax" all over the place but are the actual HBO feeds back on satellite?

At the end of two years, how much have programming prices been going up. Can we still call and renegotiate the third year?

I see "Dish 55" for seniors, but no pricing on the website. What kind of discounts can I (as an old coot! :) ) expect?

Thanks so much for any help ya'll can provide. I've got a local dealer who still installs Dish and DirecTV, so I won't have to fool with any national install desks. I had ENOUGH of that when I went to DirecTV a few years back!
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I'd wait a few weeks to let the Hopper settle in and get it's brains unscrambled.
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Bobby
I'd wait a few weeks to let the Hopper settle in and get it's brains unscrambled.
Actually it's days not weeks...
TheKrell
Actually it's days not weeks...
Yeah, and IIRC mine was working fine right out of the box. I had a tougher time getting used to the infernal tiled interface. Why does everything have to look just as crappy as my phone?
M
I had the original Hopper with my last go-round with Dish about seven years ago. I really liked that box and have high hopes for this one. I'll be glad to post my thoughts regarding comparing it to Tivo as soon as I get a few recordings on it. Tivo is still in the cablecard business, even as the cable companies threaten to drop it any day now. Frankly, I wouldn't be considering going back to satellite if not for the issues I've had with 1)cablecards, 2)tuning adapters and 3)the fact that my Tivos are elderly and the new ones have an interface that, frankly, sucks.
M
I thought I'd dredge up this old topic for the benefit of anyone thinking about coming back to Dish. I've now been on board about a month and thought I'd post a few impressions here.

The Hopper 3 is clearly the star of the show. I'm not even going to try to go into all its functions, but let's just say it is the most advanced DVR ever made. Since firing it up, it has not missed a program nor made any other kind of mistake or shown any software glitch. Dish left DirecTV in the dust on this one and the cable DVRs aren't even worthy of coming to this party. However, I do have to say that the menus are not completely intuitive.

The video quality is very good. I won't say excellent, as I think I may have been a bit more pleased in the past with what I saw on DirecTV. But if DirecTV is a 100, Dish is a 99, it's that close. Dish's picture is a bit smoother (it always has been) than DirecTV, and the trade off for that is more noise in DirecTV's video.

If there's been an issue, it was (until today) with the one wireless Joey. The video and audio are just as good as the Hopper, as one would expect them to be. However, this Joey is about 50 feet away from the Hopper, with five walls between the two. And the Hopper is on the floor. Signal strength on the Joey never rose above 35 and I'm guessing this is the cause of it's only problem...sluggishness. Sluggishness in doing anything. Scrolling though the guide, flipping between shows, changing channels, anything. Today, I was trying to watch a on demand title. The title played fine, but once I started rewinding and going back forward, the Joey froze and had to be rebooted. I won't accept that. I shut off the wireless access point and hooked the two up with a straight run of Cat5. Boom. Sluggishness is gone.

Dish's technical support via phone is NOT good. I have called about simple things, such as programming remote controls, changing programming packages, etc., and each and every call is a struggle, both because of language issues and simple training on the product. If there is a time of day when Dish has US- based technical support available, I'd love to know when it is.

I'm not completely thrilled with the remote, model 54.0. I still can't program it to change sources on my living room set, a six month old LG OLED. However, the two programmable keys at the bottom are very welcome! And the fact that it's UHF is a welcome bonus. It has excellent range.

As far as pricing is concerned, there is no contest. Dish is far cheaper (for the moment) than DirecTV. I've had both systems in the past, and came from TiVo running on a Spectrum Cablecard. The only advantage Spectrum had was channel selection and of course, YMMV. The hassles of keeping Cablecards up on the TiVo were nothing short of astounding. I'm glad to know that when I turn on the TV, the receiver will...just...work.

I purchased the external OTA tuner, that was a good move. Now I get all my local stations and save $10 per month over satellite delivered locals. That's a good thing for Dish to do, DirecTV didn't give me that choice with locals. But you do need to remember that you can record only two locals at once. That can be tough when you have all kinds of tuners for satellite channels at your beck and call!

There are so many features I have yet to explore, external hard drives, Dish Anywhere, etc. But if you're struggling with your current provider, especially if you're having DVR issues, Dish is an excellent alternative.

Thanks to everyone here for helping me make the right decision.
HipKat
I thought I'd dredge up this old topic for the benefit of anyone thinking about coming back to Dish. I've now been on board about a month and thought I'd post a few impressions here.

The Hopper 3 is clearly the star of the show. I'm not even going to try to go into all its functions, but let's just say it is the most advanced DVR ever made. Since firing it up, it has not missed a program nor made any other kind of mistake or shown any software glitch. Dish left DirecTV in the dust on this one and the cable DVRs aren't even worthy of coming to this party. However, I do have to say that the menus are not completely intuitive.

The video quality is very good. I won't say excellent, as I think I may have been a bit more pleased in the past with what I saw on DirecTV. But if DirecTV is a 100, Dish is a 99, it's that close. Dish's picture is a bit smoother (it always has been) than DirecTV, and the trade off for that is more noise in DirecTV's video.

If there's been an issue, it was (until today) with the one wireless Joey. The video and audio are just as good as the Hopper, as one would expect them to be. However, this Joey is about 50 feet away from the Hopper, with five walls between the two. And the Hopper is on the floor. Signal strength on the Joey never rose above 35 and I'm guessing this is the cause of it's only problem...sluggishness. Sluggishness in doing anything. Scrolling though the guide, flipping between shows, changing channels, anything. Today, I was trying to watch a on demand title. The title played fine, but once I started rewinding and going back forward, the Joey froze and had to be rebooted. I won't accept that. I shut off the wireless access point and hooked the two up with a straight run of Cat5. Boom. Sluggishness is gone.

Dish's technical support via phone is NOT good. I have called about simple things, such as programming remote controls, changing programming packages, etc., and each and every call is a struggle, both because of language issues and simple training on the product. If there is a time of day when Dish has US- based technical support available, I'd love to know when it is.

I'm not completely thrilled with the remote, model 54.0. I still can't program it to change sources on my living room set, a six month old LG OLED. However, the two programmable keys at the bottom are very welcome! And the fact that it's UHF is a welcome bonus. It has excellent range.

As far as pricing is concerned, there is no contest. Dish is far cheaper (for the moment) than DirecTV. I've had both systems in the past, and came from TiVo running on a Spectrum Cablecard. The only advantage Spectrum had was channel selection and of course, YMMV. The hassles of keeping Cablecards up on the TiVo were nothing short of astounding. I'm glad to know that when I turn on the TV, the receiver will...just...work.

I purchased the external OTA tuner, that was a good move. Now I get all my local stations and save $10 per month over satellite delivered locals. That's a good thing for Dish to do, DirecTV didn't give me that choice with locals. But you do need to remember that you can record only two locals at once. That can be tough when you have all kinds of tuners for satellite channels at your beck and call!

There are so many features I have yet to explore, external hard drives, Dish Anywhere, etc. But if you're struggling with your current provider, especially if you're having DVR issues, Dish is an excellent alternative.

Thanks to everyone here for helping me make the right decision.
If you go to Settings/Remote Control and scroll down, is Limited Mode toggled to Off?? It should be if it's not. Then if you hit TV on the side buttons and then the Input button, it should rotate through your TV inputs.
M
YES!

I checked that on the Joey but not on the Hopper. MANY thanks for the reminder!
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dishstaller
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Don't know if any of you have watched this series yet, it would be interesting to see if you feel this review was accurate. It was very humorous to listen to however.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tsDO3y8I2c
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KAB
KAB
What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
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What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
If the review is like the article, oi! Eighteen paragraphs into the review and... all they've done is not really talk at all about the actual thing they are reviewing.

Halfway into the "written" review, I know more about how the writer "thinks" than I do about what they are writing about. I understand their politics, their self-overestimated understanding of film, their inability to be funny.

Takes about 22 paragraphs to get to one that starts "Anyway, the story kicks off...". Talk about Slop! 😂
K
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
MikeD-C05
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
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Well, look at the way she sat in the Captain's Chair. I didn't say the show should have been called "Captain Chair-Whore" for nothing...
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Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
star trek GIF by HULU


Just sayin...
MikeD-C05
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

All In The Family Nostalgia GIF by Sony Pictures Television
All In The Family Singing GIF by Sony Pictures Television
harshness
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
long_time_Dish
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Gondoliers, Shakespeares, Overseers, Playboys and Bums - Norman Greenbaum
Bobby
I Wish I Was Eighteen Again - George Burns
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I Wish - Stevie Wonder
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Lonesome Road -- The Wonder Who?
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Lonesome Loser - Little River Band