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Stuart Sweet
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· posted in The Solid Signal Blog
Why are outdoor antennas made of aluminum? Why does it matter that antennas like Winegard's Flatwave have elements made of silver between two pieces of plastic? Is there really that much of a difference? You may be asking yourself these same questions, so let's talk about good materials for antennas.

The purpose of an antenna is to conduct electricity, because radio waves are a form of electricity. So, one thing that we know an antenna must have is conductivity. Conductivity is a measure of how well any material conducts electricity. Materials that do a really bad job of conducting electricity, like rubber, are called insulators. Insulators are needed because otherwise we couldn't touch anything electric. (It turns out that our skin makes a pretty good conductor; anyone who's gotten a shock knows that.)

Part 1: A conductive material


It's probably pretty obvious that most metals are good conductors, because any time you see some sort of wire it's always made of metal. Connections between parts in a computer are gold, and wires are made of copper. Not every metal conducts electricity equally. Let's take a look at some common metals in order of their ability to conduct electricity. The top item on the list is the most conductive.

  1. Silver
  2. Copper
  3. Annealed copper
  4. Gold
  5. Aluminium
  6. Calcium
  7. Tungsten
  8. Zinc
  9. Nickel
  10. Iron

Silver is the most conductive, meaning that it's going to do the best job pulling electricity out of the air. Copper, that favorite of wire makers everywhere, is close to the top of the list. Iron, used in cheap indoor antennas, is near the bottom of this list but still does a passable job.

Part 2: A material that resists oxidation


Silver is the ideal material for an antenna like the Flatwave because its silver elements are encased in plastic. However, an outdoor antenna made of silver would be a disaster. Oxidation is what happens when a pure metal hits the open air. Iron turns into iron oxide, which we call rust. Copper turns into copper oxide, which is that green stuff on the outside of the Statue of Liberty. Most metals are prone to oxidation in some form or another. Oxidation affects the conductivity of a metal, so a material that oxidizes easily is a bad choice for an antenna if it's in open air. Some oxides are fairly stable, like aluminum oxide; it forms a thin dull layer over aluminum that doesn't really hurt conductivity very much. Plain iron, as we all know, oxidizes poorly. An untreated piece of iron will rust out quickly. Steel, which mixes iron with carbon, does not oxidize as easily. Gold hardly oxidizes at all.

Judging solely on oxidation, the best material for an antenna would be gold or stainless steel. Of course, this leads us to part 3…

Part 3: Cost and structural integrity


For an indoor antenna, structural integrity isn't important… you hope a 50mph wind doesn't ever blow through the house. The plastic surrounding the Flatwave is good enough. For outside, you need something that won't bend too much in the wind, and ideally you want something light enough that if it does fall, it won't tear a hole in your roof.

Gold may be a decent conductor and great at resisting oxidation, but it's way too expensive to build an antenna with. It's also fairly soft and would bend over in a stiff breeze. Copper and brass are also fairly soft and oxidize easily. Iron is cheap and holds up well, but it's heavy and it's a poor conductor.

Looking at outdoor antennas, it's easy to see why the combination of light weight, strength, conductivity and the way it oxidizes make it perfect. Indoor, the best choice is silver, as long as you can keep it out of the air and use something to hold it up. This wasn't possible in the past, which is why older antennas were made of iron or brass. In the end, aluminum wins out and it's the material of choice for almost every antenna.

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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Care About Detroit - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
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98.6 - Keith
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
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That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
dishstaller
Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.