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Stuart Sweet
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Hey marine fans, I get it. You don't go out on the water to watch TV. But, a lot of people do put some sort of TV system on their boats. If you're staying on the boat overnight, it's nice to sit back and relax below decks. It's also nice to have the ability to have "tailgate" parties on the boat where you bring friends onboard to enjoy a game while also enjoying the water. Satellite TV is one of the most popular upgrades for a boat, but if you're running an average size cabin cruiser, you'll need to choose your options carefully.

Traditional TV


Obviously, you're not going to be able to get cable TV on your boat. I mean, unless you're in the marine, you're not going to be able to connect a cable, which ends up being the problem. That's why satellite TV has been the provider of choice since the mid-2000s. Satellite TV gives you the ability to watch live, even 50-100 miles offshore. There's no data cap or anything like that, and you can even add DVR service unless your boat is owned by your business.

I'm sure you know at this point that there are two providers for satellite TV in the US. Each works a little differently on the water, and it's worth comparing the two. By the way, Signal Connect is a DIRECTV and DISH dealer and we handle more marine satellite activations than anyone else in the world!

Size matters


The answers here are really targeted toward owners of personal craft. If you have a boat that can handle a 60cm satellite antenna, the answers will be different. Most boats with just one or two cabins will work better with a 30cm antenna.

Satellite antennas look like this:

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While there are some cosmetic differences, the real difference is the size. A 30cm dish is going to be about 20″ wide and 24″ tall. A 60cm dish is about double that size and double that weight. It might not be the right choice for a smaller boat. The 60cm dish is also more expensive, which may make a difference to you as well.

The different satellite providers behave the same more or less if you have a 60cm dish, but if you have a 30cm dish they behave somewhat differently.

DIRECTV


As I write this in 2023, DIRECTV's programming for marine customers is almost all in standard definition. Their HD and 4K content is on satellites that a 30cm dish can't receive. With a 30cm dish you'll get about 5 HD channels as I write this. However, you'll get all the national SD channels without having to move the dish. This means that no matter which channel you turn to, you'll get faster channel changes.

DISH


DISH has high definition programming that's available with its 30cm dish. However, the channels are split between multiple satellites. This means that sometimes, when you change channels, it can take up to a minute before you get to a live TV picture. Smaller satellite antennas can only look at one satellite at a time, which accounts for the issue.

Internet


Depending on where you plan to sail, you have two choices for internet on your boat: cellular and satellite. Both have their advantages, but one costs a lot more as it delivers a lot more. With an internet connection, you can watch TV, but it does use a lot of data. That may mean a higher cost. What are your options? Let's take a look.

Cellular internet


Cell signals travel very well over water. The air over the water can be very still, and there aren't any buildings blocking your view of the towers. That's why I generally say you can get cellular internet up to 10 miles offshore, more commonly up to 5 miles offshore. If you're on land you generally need to be within 1.5 miles of a tower. That's a big difference.

You probably already have a data plan with your phone. So, as long as you get a cell signal you'll have internet. But, due to the way your boat is made, you probably won't get signal below decks. You can solve this by using a vehicle cell phone signal booster like this one. It will help pull in those distant signals and pump them out to the lower decks.

If you want to use a computer, streaming box, or anything else that needs Wi-Fi, you can get a cellular router. This is a device that turns cell signals into Wi-Fi. On a boat, you'd need both a cell booster and a router, because the router does sit below decks. The router also requires its own data plan, but the data plans are pretty reasonable and there's a lot of value in having Wi-Fi if you're going to be on the boat a while.

Satellite internet


Satellite internet is a great choice for boaters, to be sure. You can get true high speeds up to 100 miles off shore with traditional satellite internet. LEO systems like Starlink can give you service pretty much anywhere on the planet.

There are issues with satellite internet, and the biggest one is cost. Be prepared to spend in the mid-4 figures for the equipment, and the data plans cost about 10-15 times more than a comparable cell phone plan. If you want an experimental system like Starlink, you should budget for replacing that equipment every 18 months or so, sometimes sooner.

However, if you really need a reliable offshore full-time connection, there's no substitute for what you get with satellite internet.

Where can I get more information? Who can hook me up?


Getting these services put into your boat isn't as easy as calling your local provider. You need a dealer who specializes in marine products. If you call DIRECTV, DISH, or even most satellite internet companies, they'll just shrug. They don't know how to service marine customers. Luckily someone out there has your back.

Signal Connect is the world's leading satellite activation specialist. We are authorized dealers for all the major TV, cellular, and internet companies and we can even help you with Starlink if you want to go that way. Call us to get the kind of personalized service you deserve. We have people on the line who are really trained in working with marine issues. We don't run overseas call centers… we run an operation in the US that's here to help.

Call us at 888-233-7563 or use the chat button at lower right, if it's during East Coast business hours. If it's after hours, fill out the form below. We'll get right back to you!


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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
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That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.