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Stuart Sweet
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
· posted in The Solid Signal Blog
Take a look at the antenna at the top of this article. It's our Xtreme Signal HD8200XL, the biggest TV antenna made for consumer use. It's also a bit time consuming to set up. I know, I did it for this video. It's so big that some homeowners associations won't even let you put it up. And, although I like its old-school bare metal look, a lot of people say it's big and ugly.

I mean, it's the 2020s and you can get an antenna that's much smaller and packs a big, amplified punch. So why would anyone even consider getting a dinosaur like this one?

Turns out there are a few reasons to go old-school with an antenna like this one.

1. You are really really far away from the broadcast towers


An antenna like this one will pick up signals from 75 miles away. In some cases, it will pick up signals that are even further. If you put it on a tall tower with nothing between you and a major city, you'll get astoundingly good reception from it.

Amplified antennas claim long range like that but in order for them to work, they have to receive a signal in the first place. A smaller antenna will pull in less signal and that means there will come a point where the signal is too weak to receive. If it can't be received, it can't be amplified.

2. You need broadcast channels 2-6


There aren't many broadcast signals on VHF channels 2-6 anymore. Most of the time if you see "channel 4" on your TV it's not really broadcasting on channel 4. That's just a trick they use to help you feel loyal to the channel. Most broadcast signals today are on channels 14-35, which are easily received by smaller antennas.

However, there are a few broadcasters who cling to their old channel assignments. Maybe their technology would be too expensive to replace or maybe they're just stubborn. If you live in the Philadelphia area, you've got a channel like that. Philly's ABC6, WPVI, actually broadcasts on channel 6. That means a compact antenna won't receive it well at all. If you're more than about 15 miles from a city center you'll need a big antenna to get those signals.

3. You're dealing with weak signals or bounces


Antennas really can be more of an art than a science. In some cases it's better to aim the signal 45 degrees away from a major city so you can get signals that bounce off a nearby hill. That doesn't sound like it can be better, but it sometimes just works out that way. Big antennas tend to work in situations like that very well.

So what's so special about this kind of antenna?


This type of antenna is so big and ugly, it has to have a big ugly name. It's properly called a "hybrid log-periodic / yagi antenna." That means the front part uses metal fins to direct as much signal to a single point as possible. That works well for UHF signals. The rest of it, the part you associate with the big ugly antenna, is what's know as a log-periodic antenna. That means every horizontal bar is tuned to receive one and only one channel. The biggest one at the back picks up channel 2, while the littlest one in the front picks up channel 13. It's all combined using some science and magic to travel down one cable.

By designing an antenna this way, the different parts can be really good at doing the specific things they do. That means they are as sensitive as possible and will pick up even the weakest signals. If you're close to a major city that won't mean much to you. But as you get out into the suburbs, there are going to be cases where smaller antennas just don't cut it. You'll get a lot more range out of an antenna like this.

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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Wanna Talk About Me - Toby Keith
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98.6 - Keith
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I'm Easy - Keith Carridine
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It's Easy - Boston
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
dishstaller
That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
TRG
TRG
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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b4pjoe
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
dishstaller
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
dishstaller
Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.