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J_Smooth
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Wondering if anyone else has this issue with Apple TV app on the Hopper Plus.

It doesn't show the live Friday night MLB game. Yet all of our other apps on laptop, fire stick, etc throughout the house do. I don't see how to update any of these apps or clear a cache to try and get them to work. It happens with all games, so it's not a blackout issue.
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Almighty1
Also, for every app on Play Store, look for the Developer Contact area which is where you need to contact for support with an app and report the problems.

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In this case, it's support@apple.com by e-mail, About this App will show you the latest release version of the app and the release date.

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When you look at the URL in the browser, you will see the package name of the app is com.apple.atve.sony.appletv and you can easily download the apk for this specific version at:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/apple/apple-tv-android-tv-2/apple-tv-android-tv-2-13-4-0-release/ or better yet, show all the versions for Android TV available which is what the Hopper+ is at:

and then just sideload it. When you have problems with apps on Android, you do not need to uninstall and reinstall as all you really need to do is clear data and clear cache after selecting the app. I don't have my Hopper+ hooked up or I would tell you exactly how to do it. There are also 3 different variants of Apple TV on Android: Android TV, Fire TV, Sony Android TV.
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Juan
Also, for every app on Play Store, look for the Developer Contact area which is where you need to contact for support with an app and report the problems.

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In this case, it's support@apple.com by e-mail, About this App will show you the latest release version of the app and the release date.

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When you look at the URL in the browser, you will see the package name of the app is com.apple.atve.sony.appletv and you can easily download the apk for this specific version at:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/apple/apple-tv-android-tv-2/apple-tv-android-tv-2-13-4-0-release/ or better yet, show all the versions for Android TV available which is what the Hopper+ is at:

and then just sideload it. When you have problems with apps on Android, you do not need to uninstall and reinstall as all you really need to do is clear data and clear cache after selecting the app. I don't have my Hopper+ hooked up or I would tell you exactly how to do it. There are also 3 different variants of Apple TV on Android: Android TV, Fire TV, Sony Android TV.
Appletv app is not in the play store
Almighty1
Appletv app is not in the play store
It is as I have shown you earlier, your device is just not on their supported compatibility list to see it.

There are 2 versions, generic Android TV:
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For Sony
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and as I mentioned earlier, download the APK and sideload it. No different than on the FireTV, lots of apps are not available on the Amazon Store but if you wanted to install it as long as it is Android, there is a way to do it. With that being said, keyboard apps is a exception as there is no way to select a different installed keyboard.
Juan
It is as I have shown you earlier, your device is just not on their supported compatibility list to see it.

There are 2 versions, generic Android TV:
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For Sony
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and as I mentioned earlier, download the APK and sideload it. No different than on the FireTV, lots of apps are not available on the Amazon Store but if you wanted to install it as long as it is Android, there is a way to do it. With that being said, keyboard apps is a exception as there is no way to select a different installed keyboard.
1st
Not my device

2nd
Hopper is a dish device..so obviously all aps added to it are handled thru dish

So natuarally it would never ever be on a supported device list for google
Almighty1
1st
Not my device

2nd
Hopper is a dish device..so obviously all aps added to it are handled thru dish

So natuarally it would never ever be on a supported device list for google
Wrong, do you even know how an app will show up or not on Google Play Store? It's based on the fingerprint of the device which is in build.prop. If it wasn't on a supported list for Google, you would see 0 apps in Google Play as what Google Play shows is based on the fingerprint of the device. Hopper is a DISH Service but the Hopper+ is an Android TV device and apps added to it is not handled thru DISH, the only apps handled thru DISH is the DISH TV app which gives you access to the Hopper DVR like before the Hopper+ was added, anything else is a add that you added on your own either by using the Google Play store or by sideloading. DISH is not going to support any app other than the DISH TV app, the same one where you watch satellite TV and the DVR recordings. Anything else is your own problem as someone in front of the Hopper+ added it on their own. And if you buy a app on Google Play Store, the money also goes to Google and not DISH. My first response already showed you who is responsible for each app as Apple is the one who submitted it to Google Play Store and Google is the one that acts between the consumer and the developer. You can load the Amazon Store on the Hopper+ and at that point, you would be dealing with Amazon and for apps you buy, it would go through Amazon which is easy to verify, buy an app and then ask for a refund within 30 minutes, look at who charged your credit card. Also, goto
Hopper Plus | DISH and you will see:
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Notice it says on "Google Play", if it was DISH providing you the apps, it would not even use the name "Google" and let's look at what Google Play is:

Based on what you said, Apple Store also does not belong to Apple.

And before you ask, the developer as in Apple in this case is who decides on what devices are compatible or not and if the Hopper+ is not on the list, then you will not see the app show up. Instead of explaining it on my time, it helps if you educate yourself by reading:

Everyone has already tried to help you but you won't accept their input so why bother asking if you are going to challenge everyone's answers as it's basically wasting everyone's time and bandwidth. Also, before you post or even reply, consider reading the Netiquette which is known as the rules of electronic communications that has been used since the 1980s at:
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Juan
Wrong, do you even know how an app will show up or not on Google Play Store? It's based on the fingerprint of the device which is in build.prop. If it wasn't on a supported list for Google, you would see 0 apps in Google Play as what Google Play shows is based on the fingerprint of the device. Hopper is a DISH Service but the Hopper+ is an Android TV device and apps added to it is not handled thru DISH, the only apps handled thru DISH is the DISH TV app which gives you access to the Hopper DVR like before the Hopper+ was added, anything else is a add that you added on your own either by using the Google Play store or by sideloading. DISH is not going to support any app other than the DISH TV app, the same one where you watch satellite TV and the DVR recordings. Anything else is your own problem as someone in front of the Hopper+ added it on their own. And if you buy a app on Google Play Store, the money also goes to Google and not DISH. My first response already showed you who is responsible for each app as Apple is the one who submitted it to Google Play Store and Google is the one that acts between the consumer and the developer. You can load the Amazon Store on the Hopper+ and at that point, you would be dealing with Amazon and for apps you buy, it would go through Amazon which is easy to verify, buy an app and then ask for a refund within 30 minutes, look at who charged your credit card. Also, goto
Hopper Plus | DISH and you will see:
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Notice it says on "Google Play", if it was DISH providing you the apps, it would not even use the name "Google" and let's look at what Google Play is:

Based on what you said, Apple Store also does not belong to Apple.
Hopper has propietery software...thats why Dish controls what aps get loaded
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Hopper has propietery software...thats why Dish controls what aps get loaded
Wrong.... You are talking about the Hopper, not the Hopper+ which are two different things. DISH controls everything on the Hopper DVRs but the Hopper+ which is a Android TV device, the only thing they control is the DISH TV app which really just is a interface to your Hopper DVR, everything else is your own issue and there is virtually no limit since you don't expect DISH to control all 10,000+ apps do you? The only app on the DISH Hopper+ that is controlled by DISH is the DISH app (package name com.dish.atv.launcher) which is always the same version as the Hopper+'s software update.

What gets loaded is based on the build.prop file where there is something called a fingerprint. I know more about Android than DISH does, look up my name and you will see that every internet connected device in the world uses some of my code known as the TCP/IP stack which came from BSD Unix. How can I modify the phone model in build.prop to get unsupported apps?

And please read my last comment before this one that has been edited. Also, Josh.M who is officially with DISH can tell you if DISH controls what apps are shown on the Google Play Store on the Hopper+ or not.
J_Smooth
Wrong.... You are talking about the Hopper, not the Hopper+ which are two different things. DISH controls everything on the Hopper DVRs but the Hopper+ which is a Android TV device, the only thing they control is the DISH TV app which really just is a interface to your Hopper DVR, everything else is your own issue and there is virtually no limit since you don't expect DISH to control all 10,000+ apps do you? The only app on the DISH Hopper+ that is controlled by DISH is the DISH app (package name com.dish.atv.launcher) which is always the same version as the Hopper+'s software update.

What gets loaded is based on the build.prop file where there is something called a fingerprint. I know more about Android than DISH does, look up my name and you will see that every internet connected device in the world uses some of my code known as the TCP/IP stack which came from BSD Unix. How can I modify the phone model in build.prop to get unsupported apps?

And please read my last comment before this one that has been edited. Also, Josh.M who is officially with DISH can tell you if DISH controls what apps are shown on the Google Play Store on the Hopper+ or not.
Your explanations all make sense to me. I guess what is strange is that Apple pointed me back to DISH to resolve the problem, and DISH escalated it within DISH rather than point me back to Apple. Since it was offered when the Hopper Plus began (I got mine in early Oct 22), I'm assuming Apple pulled the version that showed up on the Hopper Plus google store due to some compatibility issues? Being what I would consider a top 20 app that would be downloaded as a major streamer, doesn't it seem like a strange one to just get disconnected without DISH resolving it? Very happy that you pointed me to the sideload link, but still confused. I would completely get it if I was sideloading some minor app, but Apple TV?
Almighty1
Your explanations all make sense to me. I guess what is strange is that Apple pointed me back to DISH to resolve the problem, and DISH escalated it within DISH rather than point me back to Apple. Since it was offered when the Hopper Plus began (I got mine in early Oct 22), I'm assuming Apple pulled the version that showed up on the Hopper Plus google store due to some compatibility issues? Being what I would consider a top 20 app that would be downloaded as a major streamer, doesn't it seem like a strange one to just get disconnected without DISH resolving it? Very happy that you pointed me to the sideload link, but still confused. I would completely get it if I was sideloading some minor app, but Apple TV?
Just a thought, maybe Apple decided to remove the Hopper+ because people were having problems even though one can't find Hopper+ discussions anywhere outside of here and DISH might have escalated it internally but they couldn't fix the problem since remember how slow the Hopper+ is even with accessing the Hopper, if they can't fix that which is their own product, do you really think they can fix something that was written by Apple who is the major competitor to Android but probably did so just to gain people using it but I am sure they want people to use the actual Apple TV hardware. As for a major app, NetFlix is big but if the device you are using it on is rooted, it will also not show up in Google Play Store and the only way is to find the apk elsewhere and then sideload it even back in 2016 and currently. The thing is when you read the comments on Google Play Store for the Apple TV app, it seems to not have even a good review probably because Apple only put in a minor amount of effort so it can be installed but functionality might have lots of bugs, etc as it is still new and might take some time before it actually works well. The other thing was maybe when the Hopper Plus began, Apple TV was just available for all devices and then later, they changed their database to either exclude by specific devices or only include specific devices so everything else is excluded. I think the end result and what matters is you can get the app installed and working without problems, whether or not it was downloaded directly from Google Play Store is another issue altogether as even if it was and it has problems after installing, that's still not good.
Almighty1
Juan - Didn't realize you were not the one who had the problem and also in Russia. The Hopper is the DVR which you are correct, all apps are controlled by DISH since you would not be able to add or remove any of the apps. The Hopper(+) Plus is a Android TV box provided by DISH that connects to the Hopper using a USB cable and the HDMI output which originally was on the Hopper is disconnected and instead connected to the Hopper(+) instead. It's the later box that we are discussing and when I meant your device, I meant any Android device in general, not your personal device. DISH's marketing appears to make the Hopper(+) Plus sound like a complete new Hopper DVR model which has everything the Hopper 3 has including Android TV support inside.
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Just a thought, maybe Apple decided to remove the Hopper+ because people were having problems even though one can't find Hopper+ discussions anywhere outside of here and DISH might have escalated it internally but they couldn't fix the problem since remember how slow the Hopper+ is even with accessing the Hopper, if they can't fix that which is their own product, do you really think they can fix something that was written by Apple who is the major competitor to Android but probably did so just to gain people using it but I am sure they want people to use the actual Apple TV hardware. As for a major app, NetFlix is big but if the device you are using it on is rooted, it will also not show up in Google Play Store and the only way is to find the apk elsewhere and then sideload it even back in 2016 and currently. The thing is when you read the comments on Google Play Store for the Apple TV app, it seems to not have even a good review probably because Apple only put in a minor amount of effort so it can be installed but functionality might have lots of bugs, etc as it is still new and might take some time before it actually works well. The other thing was maybe when the Hopper Plus began, Apple TV was just available for all devices and then later, they changed their database to either exclude by specific devices or only include specific devices so everything else is excluded. I think the end result and what matters is you can get the app installed and working without problems, whether or not it was downloaded directly from Google Play Store is another issue altogether as even if it was and it has problems after installing, that's still not good.
That seems pretty reasonable. Thanks for the detailed information, much appreciated. You are a benefit to this forum!
Almighty1
That seems pretty reasonable. Thanks for the detailed information, much appreciated. You are a benefit to this forum!
You are very welcome. Just hoped more people had the Hopper+ especially people on xda-developers.com as someone there will probably provide a custom ROM with the official DISH app meaning everyone will have more control of the device and with luck, might fix the lag issue(s) when accessing the Hopper, ofcourse that is still wishful thinking.
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Hopper has propietery software...thats why Dish controls what aps get loaded

Hopper yes. Hopper plus no.


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Almighty1
J_Smooth - Forgot to mention that anything you sideload and Google Play Store does not show the app for your device, you will need to manually sideload the updates using the apk of the version you want to install.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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TheForce
Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?
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Defective Modem?
It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

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If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
dishdude
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
AZ.
AZ.
Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

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Don't Take Me Alive - Steely Dan
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TAKE On ME-A-Ha
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On Broadway - George Benson
Bobby
Stay In Time - Off Broadway USA
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Just In Time - Tony Bennett
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
Jimbo
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Jimbo
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Jimbo
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
Jimbo
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
harshness
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
Jimbo
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.
harshness
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
TRG
TRG
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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Jimbo
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
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Jimbo
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
Jimbo
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)
Jimbo
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
Juan
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
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Bobby
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
22g per serving.
Juan
22g per serving.
How much is a serving?
Bobby
How much is a serving?
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
Jimbo
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
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They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli
Jimbo
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli
Well, it is a Super market deli, just not a MAJOR one .
navychop
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Awwww. You missed your chance to say "22 grams."
navychop
don't think theres sodium in it

According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
Jimbo
According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
Bobby
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.


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Foxbat
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Bruce
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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b4pjoe
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Thanks for that info. I will mark it on my calendar! 🤣
Jimbo
Will the Jupiter 2 make it in time ....
Stay tuned ...
jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
Looks like DTV made a deal. I'm now getting it on ch 650. The tv promise slate is gone.
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A few teams got a deal. Was posted yesterday in the Directv update thread
JSheridan
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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navychop
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Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
Mister B
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
zippyfrog
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.
navychop
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

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At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff
Personally, I would HATE to see a SD Channel at this point.
Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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Jimbo
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
Oh Yes, the Genaric Commercials .... have you seen the DR Trimmer commercials lately (and accessories )
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Jimbo
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
Not many are watching.
Majority are watching the same shows in HD or 4K
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