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All good reviews on Google Maps, 4.9 out of 5. When I priced the mini from the link above the shipping was almost 15 euros so I wonder if there is an error on this webpage. Euro to USD is almost equal. I'm tempted to order one. Too bad I didn't know about this when we did a Danube River Cruise about a year ago. It stopped in Bratislava.

clucas said:

All good reviews on Google Maps, 4.9 out of 5....

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Did you see the note down the page of the Mio+?
"Currently not available, Out of stock"

Yeah. The mio4k+ has two dvb tuners alrightey. But notice the specs? One is crippled. SF8008 has identical ones.
Too bad they never got bilndscan working worth a you-know-what on the Zgemma H7.x And lack of ACM/VCM for the radio channels.
But on a brighter side. If they hold up better than what people are currently reporting. With the next incantation fixing low sr issues.
The SF8008 Supreme looks tasty.

The "improvements" in the Edision receivers may be important in Europe but are not here. Why is 4K necessary when there are no 4K broadcasts? Lower SR rate capable? Not necessary for me. Even DVB-S2X seems unnecessary. I've never seen a viewable broadcast that required this. All I want from a dual-tuner receive is two capable sensitive tuners with blind scans that are fast and accurate.

cyberham said:

Did you see the note down the page of the Mio+?
"Currently not available, Out of stock"

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Sorry, missed that. Small print with these older eyes looking at it!

arlo said:

Yeah. The mio4k+ has two dvb tuners alrightey. But notice the specs? One is crippled. SF8008 has identical ones.
Too bad they never got bilndscan working worth a you-know-what on the Zgemma H7.x And lack of ACM/VCM for the radio channels.
But on a brighter side. If they hold up better than what people are currently reporting. With the next incantation fixing low sr issues.
The SF8008 Supreme looks tasty.

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Yes indeed. I ordered a SF8008 Supreme with dual DVB-S2X inputs to replace the Mio which stopped outputting HDMI. Looking forward to receiving it, but my order is currently stuck due to "Regional Weather Delays" (too much snow). Might have to wait until the snow melts, lol.

... Looking back, I think it was static electricity that killed the HDMI on my Mio. The reason being that it is cold and very dry here, and I had walked across the carpet from my chair to the AV area and plugged in the HDMI cable from the Mio into the TV. I don't remember a static shock, but it might have been too mild to notice.

However, the next day I walked the same route and got a big shock when I touched the metal case of a hard drive. It bricked the hard drive!

Anyway, static electricity has likely killed two devices here recently so I have got to start walking barefoot and/or get something for static discharge.

And did I mention that we need rain here in California?

N6BY said:

or get something for static discharge.

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Get a humidifier, and let it pump out the moisture in your room.

arlo said:

Yeah. The mio4k+ has two dvb tuners alrightey. But notice the specs? One is crippled. SF8008 has identical ones.
Too bad they never got bilndscan working worth a you-know-what on the Zgemma H7.x And lack of ACM/VCM for the radio channels.
But on a brighter side. If they hold up better than what people are currently reporting. With the next incantation fixing low sr issues.
The SF8008 Supreme looks tasty.

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Performance of a product like receivers in this hobby. Or obsession. How ever you look at it. Is a thing. Depends on how deep you get into it.
Looking at Cybes reply. I think those improvements are actually more important here than there. Seriously.
Since Europeans live off of fixed transponders and if a blindscan can be done. Good enough.
Thing is. When a receiver and description, and specs. page is plastered with the capabilities of it. Goes for anything really.
You grab it because of the things it can do. Then later. People one-by-one report it isn't so. I ain't an impulse buyer. Yeah..."ain't".
It cheeses me that "A tuner". Or "ARM 7 1600 MHz Quad Core Processor". Doesn't really tell much.
In the pc, gaming world. That wouldn't fly. Intel, AMD, Nvidia folks would freak out. Right?

There WAS 4K FTA-ish channels. Then there were no more. But a few might pop up again. Who knows. 4k has become a defacto standard these days. As is DVB-S<stick your own extensions here> tuning capabilities. You would be pretty much screwed if you still use a satellite receiver with a DVB tuner and component video out. Or RGB. Or whatever.
You can live with static satellite lists. Or in a Linux receiver. Download an updated file from satellites-xml.org.
Or simply go for the cheapest possible way to get your feet wet in this "hobby" and grab a chinabox receiver or one of the "foreverbox" do-dads. Oh yeah. "Updatable firmware" grabs your eye. Yeah, for what? 2, 3 shots? Then goes staganant.
Low symbol rate capabilitiy is a thing. And Octagon lied about the SF8000 (newer) model boxes.
Edision stepped up and folks like El Bandido tweaked the Os Mio 4K series receivers TNAP image to bring out their magic.

When I spent a pile of cash on a ham receiver for my other hobby. A DC to Daylight receiver. Two models. One with cell frequencies blocked and another same model with wide open, no gap tuning. Why? Nothing at all but static on the blocked frequencies. At all.
Why would a fellow want that. A bible, a firearm. You might never need one. But gosh darn it. It sure is nice if you ever do. Which one did I grab? Pshhhhhhbzzzzzzzpshhhhh. Uh-huh.

Static. Death to electronics with atom thick chip construction. Transient suppressors that trip a few volts over working voltage were the best idea since the Commodore 64. Where just looking at one would pop the danged things. But they have their own limitations.
With everything today using SMPS wall warts, power bricks for TV's and such to power them. There is no chassis connection to mains neutral. Well, at least with 2 blade non-IEC plugs with no polarized socket blade. As is the case of 99.999999% of wall warts.
So where would a static charge go to? Coax shield to no place? HDMI to.....no place?
Find a screw on the case that goes into a metal chassis. Ground plane. Or makes positive there is a grounding block where your coax enters your home that is bonded to a copper ground rod. Ground that sucker. Or at least try. A multimeter would be a nice thing to have also. Then touch it before you go petting the kat.
.....i need coffee.