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Last reply Oct 11, 2023 · posted in Antenna Man

FCC Announces ATSC 1.0 Shut Down - How It Impacts Free Antenna TV

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navychop

Sep 28, 2023

Until FORCED.

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Justin Hill

Oct 7, 2023

Some electronics manufacturers, like LG, have decided not to put ATSC 3.0 tuners in their new flatscreen TVs.
It may seem like a kamikaze move for their adoption ATSC 3.0, as it looks like they want the new standard to fail...or maybe they're waiting for the new standard to be fleshed out more, which will probably take a decade or two...

Justin Hill

Oct 7, 2023

Breaking up with ATSC 1.0 will be hard to do when the day comes...

Green Bay, Wisconsin still has yet to get a new broadcast affiliate for MeTV (and the other Weigel Broadcasting-owned stations) on the current ATSC 1.0 standard, as Weigel Broadcasting bought WFXS-TV 55's old tower/equipment, which broadcast on RF channel 31 in Wittenberg, Wisconsin, with the intent of moving the equipment/tower/city of license to Shawano, Wisconsin and boosting the ERP to 1,000 kilowatts (once Weigel gets the FCC's permission), close enough to Green Bay, Wisconsin for the new dual-market MeTV affiliate to rimshot the city with a Grade B signal.

I have a feeling that a repeater station at the Scray's Hill towers in the Green Bay area will alleviate the shortfalls from that Grade B signal originating in Shawano in the future...

harshness

Oct 8, 2023

Justin Hill said:
Some electronics manufacturers, like LG, have decided not to put ATSC 3.0 tuners in their new flatscreen TVs.
It may seem like a kamikaze move for their adoption ATSC 3.0, as it looks like they want the new standard to fail...or maybe they're waiting for the new standard to be fleshed out more, which will probably take a decade or two...

The issue, for those who have recently emerged from under a rock, is that LG was sued for patent infringement for something that is part of the NextGen TV standard. They were effectively forced to stop enabling tuners (I doubt they'll remove them) as it may be too late in the cycle and it would be expensive to reverse if they won on appeal. How much of this was LG's fault and how much was ATSC's is a subject of great debate. ATSC is clearly playing dumb.

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Foxbat

Oct 8, 2023

harshness said:
The issue… …is that LG was sued for patent infringement for something that is part of the NextGen TV standard.

Seems rather odd that ATSC would rely on technology that wasn't included with their licensing fees. There is the "Fair, Reasonable, And Non-Discriminatory" (FRAND) policy that if a patent is determined to be an essential part of a standard that the patent holder is expected to make the patent available for free or a nominal price.

Fair, Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory, But Controversial: IEEE Adopts a New FRAND Policy

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If this is something that is "baked" into the ATSC 3.0 chip(s) then the chip maker should be the one on the hook (could be LG if they designed bespoke silicon for these new TVs). But the patent holder should be providing this patent under an agreement from NextGen.

harshness

Oct 9, 2023

Foxbat said:
But the patent holder should be providing this patent under an agreement from NextGen.

That the pool doesn't include the patent holder isn't the patent holder's problem. ATSC didn't do their due diligence.

It makes one wonder what other IP has managed to avoid getting wet.

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NashGuy

Oct 9, 2023

harshness said:
That the pool doesn't include the patent holder isn't the patent holder's problem. ATSC didn't do their due diligence.

I read an article on Friday with a spokesperson for ATSC 3.0 and she said it was up to the licensors (e.g. LG, Samsung, etc.) to perform the patent due diligence, not the ATSC...

harshness

Oct 9, 2023

NashGuy said:
I read an article on Friday with a spokesperson for ATSC 3.0 and she said it was up to the licensors (e.g. LG, Samsung, etc.) to perform the patent due diligence, not the ATSC...

That seems a job half-done to me.

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mwdxer1

Oct 9, 2023

navychop said:
Until FORCED.

It will not be forced. If 1.0 goes, then people will not be watching OTA. Also, it will cost OTA stations $$$ to switch over translators & LPTV's. The TV stations have tried to get people to go back to OTA, but still only a small percentage watch free OTA. Within 5 years probably OTA will be streaming anyway.

mwdxer1

Oct 9, 2023

Justin Hill said:
Breaking up with ATSC 1.0 will be hard to do when the day comes...

Green Bay, Wisconsin still has yet to get a new broadcast affiliate for MeTV (and the other Weigel Broadcasting-owned stations) on the current ATSC 1.0 standard, as Weigel Broadcasting bought WFXS-TV 55's old tower/equipment, which broadcast on RF channel 31 in Wittenberg, Wisconsin, with the intent of moving the equipment/tower/city of license to Shawano, Wisconsin and boosting the ERP to 1,000 kilowatts (once Weigel gets the FCC's permission), close enough to Green Bay, Wisconsin for the new dual-market MeTV affiliate to rimshot the city with a Grade B signal.

I have a feeling that a repeater station at the Scray's Hill towers in the Green Bay area will alleviate the shortfalls from that Grade B signal originating in Shawano in the future...

Here, we have a Weigel LPTV with all 7 of their channels (METV, METV+, Catchy TV, H&I, Story TV, Start, and Movies.) I have Frndly TV as a back up as they are of the Weigel channels. The only streaming service that does.

harshness

Oct 11, 2023

mwdxer1 said:
Also, it will cost OTA stations $$$ to switch over translators & LPTV's.

I'm pretty sure you overestimate how many translators there are.

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KAB

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Last reply 5 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

Slow Horses - Apple TV

Just finished S2. Watching Gary Oldman as deshvilved, dejected MI-6 agent, Jackson Lamb, is one of the best things streaming right now. Already 2 more seasons in the works. HIGHLY recommended. And yes, Mick Jagger sings the theme.

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N5XZS

Sep 16, 2026

A fine top notch TV show which is light years ahead!!

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KAB

Sep 17, 2026

N5XZS said:
A fine top notch TV show which is light years ahead!!

"Jackson Lamb for Prime Minister! "

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Foxbat

Oct 8, 2026

Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.

KAB

Oct 9, 2026

Foxbat said:
Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.

I think this new season is a little too slow of a burn (as of ep #4, probably due to new show runner. However, I can't wait to find out what's up with Taverner!

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KAB

Today at 4:31 PM

Well, the season finale went balls to the wall. Non stop action and several twisted twists. Gary Oldman at his best. Very well written and executed. Tavener owes Jackson big time. Only "if" was Jack Lowden's (River) cliffhanger, especially admin-st the buzz that he is the next James Bond in waiting.

klang

5 minutes ago

Planning to start the new season tonight.

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Intelligent Machines 893

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Why $299 Is Too Much for the Apple TV 4K

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Ham Radio 2.0

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ppappas

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Last reply 47 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Newest NCIS recording doesn't allow auto skip

On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!

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Nebugeater

Thursday at 9:12 AM

It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

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Bobby

Thursday at 11:22 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....

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tanman

Thursday at 11:25 AM

With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

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Cold Irons

Thursday at 12:03 PM

tanman said:
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.

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Jim5506

Thursday at 9:27 PM

I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

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dennispap

47 minutes ago

Jim5506 said:
I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

Correct. If you enable PTAT, you don't have to set other timers for those programs. You can choose all of the 4 networks or as few as you want. You also can choose all 7 days or other options. However the programs will auto delete after 8 days unless you save that episode or save the whole series.

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply 51 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

KyL416

51 minutes ago

KyL416 said:
Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

They're finally live in the app's API, doing a check

PISTONS is not available in Detroit (WMYD/20), it is available in the rest of Michigan including Marquette who also gets the games on their MyNet station WJMN/3, along with the Toledo DMA and the northern portions of the South Bend and Fort Wayne DMAs.

THUNDER is available in OKC and Tulsa, so I wonder if DTV is just going to keep the OTA feeds of KSBI/52 and KQCW/19 and direct viewers to 675 for the rest of the games.
On stream it's in Choice for Oklahoma (inlcuding the Oklahoma portions of the Amarillo, Sherman-Ada, Wichita Falls-Lawton and Joplin DMAs) and Western Arkansas and requires Sports Pack for Nebraska, Kansas and Western Missouri, I'm not sure if it's the same for satellite.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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Today at 11:42 AM

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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Today at 1:24 PM

Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors

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Today at 3:01 PM

Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 4:24 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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dishdude

Monday at 5:05 PM

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:10 PM

dishdude said:
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:33 PM

That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".

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Strega

Today at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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KAB

Today at 4:24 PM

922 was a train wreck. The end!

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KAB

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Last reply Today at 4:00 PM · posted in TV Shows

Terminal List- Amazon

Much better than the critics would want you to believe. Only problem, the last guy was pretty obvious a couple of episodes in.

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reubenray

Jul 4, 2022

I have watched three episodes so far and I like it.

thomasjk

Jul 4, 2022

As do I.

osu1991

Aug 20, 2026

View: https://youtu.be/y3rAi63uDTQ?si=oO5i7Q7YGB8yorb3

October 21 on Prime

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osu1991

Today at 4:00 PM

Season 2 out now on Prime

osu1991

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Last reply Today at 3:56 PM · posted in TV Shows

Amazon Prime: The Rings of Power

Amazon Sets 'The Lord of the Rings' TV Series In Mega Deal With Multi-Season Commitment

$250 Million just for the rights to make something :eeek

The LOTR original series, a prequel to Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring, will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust; HarperCollins; and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment, which produced the hugely successful LOTR movie franchise.

Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new storylines preceding Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring.

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long_time_Dish

Nov 9, 2024

Two friends recommended this show to me and I was hooked by the second ep of season 1! Production values are amazing and the episode runtimes are (typically) over an hour, which makes it really easy get hooked on the story because they're playing it out with movie-like pacing rather than a 34-40 minute episode. Acting and casting is really good as well!

I got started on season 2 a few nights ago and was wondering if anyone else is watching?

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Bruce

Nov 9, 2024

long_time_DNC said:
Two friends recommended this show to me and I was hooked by the second ep of season 1! Production values are amazing and the episode runtimes are (typically) over an hour, which makes it really easy get hooked on the story because they're playing it out with movie-like pacing rather than a 34-40 minute episode. Acting and casting is really good as well!

I got started on season 2 a few nights ago and was wondering if anyone else is watching?

I am amazed you like it.

Made it thru season 1, thought it was terrible, but wanted to give it a chance, made it to halfway on Season 2, Episode 2, just could not take it anymore.

It like they took the worse Lord of the Rings fan-fiction off the internet and made it into a TV Series.

Yes, the production values are high, but that does not make it into a good series.

long_time_Dish

Nov 11, 2024

Bruce said:
I am amazed you like it.

Made it thru season 1, thought it was terrible, but wanted to give it a chance, made it to halfway on Season 2, Episode 2, just could not take it anymore.

It like they took the worse Lord of the Rings fan-fiction off the internet and made it into a TV Series.

Yes, the production values are high, but that does not make it into a good series.

They're taking a lot of this from The Silmarillion, of which I'm not quite a third of the way through yet, and sure, they've invented some new people, places and situations, but it's still (IMHO) a really good prequel to LOTR. Having only just started season 2, I'm still enjoying it quite a bit. I'm really not seeing the fan-fic angle in it. If season 2 proves to be as enjoyable as season 1 was for me, I'd sure like to see a 3rd season.

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long_time_Dish

Nov 13, 2024

Up to s2, ep4. Didn't like episode 3 quite as much as the rest, but episode 4 was terrific!

osu1991

Today at 3:56 PM

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