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Stuart Sweet
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Solid Signal Blog
What's the antenna you see at the top of this article? I won't keep you in suspense. It's Xtreme Signal's HD8200XL antenna. But, you'd be forgiven if you said it was Winegard's HD8200U antenna. Both antennas look pretty darn similar. The biggest difference you'll notice is that our Xtreme Signal antenna is quite a bit less expensive. So, what does that really mean for you?

The technical difference


The Winegard antenna is rated at 65 miles, while the Xtreme Signal antenna is rated at 70+ miles. Either way, these are rough numbers. A lot of factors contribute to the real-world range you get from any antenna. But it's fair to say that in a comparison, the Xtreme Signal antenna will pick up more distant signals.

The Xtreme Signal antenna is constructed with more directors. These devices on the front of the antenna focus more distant signals on the part of the antenna that receive signal. However, they also narrow the beam width slightly, meaning that the Xtreme Signal antenna does a slightly worse job of pulling in signals that are to the left or right of where the antenna's aimed. The difference that this makes is very slight, but it does give the Xtreme Signal antenna the advantage in distance. The Winegard antenna will do better in picking up nearby signals that are off at an angle to the antenna. Again it's a very small difference, though.

Do you even need a big antenna like this one?


Both antennas are very large when fully assembled. They both clock in at over 10 feet long. That may be too large for some homeowners' associations. Government guidelines say that you have the right to have an antenna that's 39″ long in any dimension, but these antennas are quite a bit more than that.

The difference comes from these antennas' ability to pull in channels 2-6. These channels, known as "VHF-Low," aren't commonly used anymore. When TV went digital in the mid-'00s, the goal was to get rid of them completely. Unfortunately they aren't really useful for things like cell phones so instead of losing channels 2-13, TV broadcasters lost access to channels 36-51 which are useful for cell phone signals. That meant some signals had to stay in that range of channels 2-6. There were even some channels, like Philadelphia's WPVI, that chose to stay at their original broadcast channel.

If you need an antenna that picks up channels 2-6, you'll need a large antenna like the 8200U or 8200XL. There's no getting around it. It's just the nature of how broadcasting works. Those channels have really long "waves" and that means you need a really large antenna to get them.

Why are the names so similar?


Both the Winegard and Xtreme Signal antennas are made by Winegard in the same factory. Xtreme Signal is our "house brand" of antennas here at Solid Signal, and we hire Winegard to make them for us.

Which antenna should you get?


You don't have to guess which antenna is best for you! Call the experts at Solid Signal. Tell us a little bit about your location and we'll recommend the best antenna for your situation. The antenna recommendation is free and we'll even suggest accessories to go with the antenna.

Call us at 888-233-7563 during East Coast business hours. If it's after hours, fill out the form below. We'll get right back to you!


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harshness
They both clock in at over 10 feet long. That may be too large for some homeowners' associations.
If you're in an HOA and you need an antenna that large, you're in a rather unusual situation.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Wanna Talk About Me - Toby Keith
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98.6 - Keith
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I'm Easy - Keith Carridine
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It's Easy - Boston
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
dishstaller
That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
TRG
TRG
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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b4pjoe
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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HipKat
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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Foxbat
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Jimbo
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
dishstaller
Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.