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ekilgus

Last reply Nov 30, 2023 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

MAX and 4K

As we already know, a Dish subscription to HBO includes MAX streaming. This morning I received an email from MAX stating on Dec 5 that streaming pf 4K content will no longer be available to me. A search indicated MAX will be offering a premium tier for 4K and Dolby ATMOS content. Of course, it will cost more, around $4 more.

I wonder what Dish will do? I'm guessing probably nothing. So, this means if I want content in 4K, I'd have to subscribe to this MAX premium tier separately from Dish, which means of course, I'd drop HBO from my Dish account. Has anyone heard about this or what Dish might do or not do yet?

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Stuart Sweet

Nov 3, 2023

There will be a fairly scathing editorial on The Solid Signal Blog about this tomorrow... look for it.

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Bruce

Nov 3, 2023

Stuart Sweet said:
There will be a fairly scathing editorial on The Solid Signal Blog about this tomorrow... look for it.

Is part of that-Warner's long game goal is for everyone to subscribe directly with them, then they will no longer have to split the monthly fee with a provider.

Because I just posted that right above.

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Yespage

Nov 3, 2023

ekilgus said:
As we already know, a Dish subscription to HBO includes MAX streaming. This morning I received an email from MAX stating on Dec 5 that streaming pf 4K content will no longer be available to me. A search indicated MAX will be offering a premium tier for 4K and Dolby ATMOS content. Of course, it will cost more, around $4 more.

I just realized that the poster subs to HBO. While I get it as a bonus with my Internet, I don't quite pay outright for it. So I can see why my access is reduced.

Why in the heck would Warner reduce the access to 4K content online, if someone was subscribed to them directly through Cable or Sat? Are they seriously expecting people to sub to both or are they purposefully screwing over cable/sat channels... or is this a negotiation ploy for Cable/Sat to up their pay to the premiums to provide 4K streaming?

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Bruce

Nov 3, 2023

Yespage said:
Why in the heck would Warner reduce the access to 4K content online, if someone was subscribed to them directly through Cable or Sat? Are they seriously expecting people to sub to both or are they purposefully screwing over cable/sat channels... or is this a negotiation ploy for Cable/Sat to up their pay to the premiums to provide 4K streaming?

That has been their plan since they first put out HBOMAX, they want the entire monthly fee to themselves.

Your second option would be a better idea at this point in MAX's existence, try to get a better deal with providers.

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ekilgus

Nov 30, 2023

Bruce said:
Is part of that-Warner's long game goal is for everyone to subscribe directly with them, then they will no longer have to split the monthly fee with a provider.

Because I just posted that right above.

I finally got a response from MAX
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Thank you for your reply and for letting us know about your concern.

Upon checking, we currently don't have an available plan upgrade for subscription that are through a provider. You can upgrade for higher tier plan if you choose to subscribed directly. I hope this helps. Thank you.
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I've got to believe more than half of MAX subscribers are through a provider. Right now DISH CSR's are clueless, they had no idea what I was talking about. I suppose we'll have to wait and see what happens.

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Yespage

Nov 30, 2023

Bruce said:
That has been their plan since they first put out HBOMAX, they want the entire monthly fee to themselves.

I ponder whether this is more about the DVR, than the fee. Streaming provides most of everything on demand... but you can't keep it. We've got all sorts of stuff on our DVR that was recorded from previous subscriptions we no longer have. Streaming (and HDMI encryption) ends that.

It'd make a lot more sense to have a Max 4K add-on for provider accounts than to anger the customers, especially the Sat TV folk.

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Bruce

Nov 30, 2023

Yespage said:
I ponder whether this is more about the DVR, than the fee. Streaming provides most of everything on demand... but you can't keep it. We've got all sorts of stuff on our DVR that was recorded from previous subscriptions we no longer have. Streaming (and HDMI encryption) ends that.

While broadcasters have always hated the DVR, this is all about the fee.

Look at it from Warner's view, I have heard, but not sure, that Warner gets 70%, Providers 30%.

So for a $20 per month fee, that is $14/6.

If 20 Million subscribe to the 4K plan, by keeping it, that is $400 Million a month, $4.8 Billion a year

If 10 million of that 20 million subscribe to the 4K plan via a provider, they are losing $60 Million a month, $720 Million a year.

The new rumor is, when the contracts are up, is no more online access, you can still get HBO via a provider, but no more MAX, only way is direct/online.

Or, your only online access will be with Commercials, since the other rumor is the middle tier (1080P no commercials) will also be going away, raising the with Commercials price to $15 , then the other tier, is the upgrade to 4K( have not heard if that price will be going up, but I do not doubt if that will happen).

By the way, Viacom is already about to do this with Showtime, the only way to get online is with Paramount+, for the same price you would pay a provider for just Showtime, online access goes away in 2 weeks I believe.

Yespage said:
It'd make a lot more sense to have a Max 4K add-on for provider accounts than to anger the customers, especially the Sat TV folk.

If this was 2016, I would agree, DirecTV/Dish total sub numbers were , roughly, 35 Million Subscribers between the two, today, about 15 Million for both, Comcast has more then DirecTV/Dish added together .

Their power is waning.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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dishstaller

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Last reply 12 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

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telstar_1

Wednesday at 2:22 PM

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

Jimbo

Wednesday at 6:26 PM

telstar_1 said:
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.

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TRG

Wednesday at 6:41 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.

I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.

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Jimbo

Wednesday at 7:05 PM

TRG said:
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.

Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz

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NYDutch

Wednesday at 7:39 PM

Jimbo said:
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz

We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.

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Jimbo

Wednesday at 8:54 PM

NYDutch said:
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.

Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

Jimbo

Thursday at 9:27 AM

harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only

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harshness

Yesterday at 4:42 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.

You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:08 PM

harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.

harshness

Yesterday at 6:50 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.

Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

TRG

Yesterday at 8:38 PM

Jimbo said:
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:16 PM

harshness said:
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:20 PM

TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:23 PM

TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:24 PM

Jimbo said:
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.

I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.

Juan

Yesterday at 9:25 PM

Jimbo said:
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.

They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy

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Bobby

Yesterday at 9:40 PM

Jimbo said:
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.

22g per serving.

Juan

Yesterday at 9:51 PM

Bobby said:
22g per serving.

How much is a serving?

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:58 PM

Juan said:
How much is a serving?

2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:46 PM

Juan said:
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy

They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...

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Juan

Today at 8:48 AM

Jimbo said:
They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...

I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli

Jimbo

Today at 9:14 AM

Juan said:
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli

Well, it is a Super market deli, just not a MAJOR one .

navychop

Today at 9:33 AM

Bobby said:
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Awwww. You missed your chance to say "22 grams."

navychop

Today at 9:34 AM

Jimbo said:
don't think theres sodium in it

According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.

Jimbo

Today at 9:39 AM

navychop said:
According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.

I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...

Bobby

12 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...

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dishstaller

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We're less than 4 weeks away from Voyager 1 reaching a distance of one light day from Earth

I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.

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Today at 12:57 AM

So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…

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Bruce

Today at 3:47 AM

Foxbat said:
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…

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b4pjoe

Today at 8:40 AM

Foxbat said:
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…

Thanks for that info. I will mark it on my calendar!

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Will the Jupiter 2 make it in time ....
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Last reply Today at 9:13 AM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Hurricanes NHL game channel

Looks like DTV made a deal. I'm now getting it on ch 650. The tv promise slate is gone.

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Mr Tony

Today at 9:13 AM

A few teams got a deal. Was posted yesterday in the Directv update thread

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All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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navychop

Oct 3, 2026

Years down the road

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renjy651

Oct 4, 2026

navychop said:
Years down the road

Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

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Mister B

Oct 5, 2026

renjy651 said:
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

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zippyfrog

Oct 5, 2026

Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

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navychop

Oct 5, 2026

zippyfrog said:
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

CONTRACTS!

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 5:58 PM

navychop said:
CONTRACTS!

At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff

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Strega

Yesterday at 10:01 PM

Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:15 PM

telstar_1 said:
At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff

Personally, I would HATE to see a SD Channel at this point.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Mister B

Today at 7:35 AM

Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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Jimbo

Today at 9:11 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

Oh Yes, the Genaric Commercials .... have you seen the DR Trimmer commercials lately (and accessories )

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Jimbo

Today at 9:12 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

Not many are watching.
Majority are watching the same shows in HD or 4K

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TRG

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Last reply Today at 8:05 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Prescription drug costs

Now that I'm retired, obviously I have different health care insurance. I take 2 prescriptions. With my old insurance I didn't have to pay for either of them, now I do. It's not a huge amount but it led me to dig a little into the cost of prescription medications. I have been using Walgreens for the longest time. But what I found was that Walgreens price is 4.8 times more for one of my prescriptions and the other is 2.3 percent more compared to the lowest price pharmacy. If you pay for prescription medications you might want to have a look at trumprx and see if you can get a lower price.

https://trumprx.gov/

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comfortably_numb

Thursday at 6:09 PM

I run them through several different providers to see who has the lowest cost

Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

Also...

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You can also price them through the CareCard and WellRx apps.

Sometimes Amazon Pharmacy is cheapest.

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dishstaller

Thursday at 9:39 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

I'm fortunate and don't take any medications. A couple years ago I had to take some antibiotics and used the GoodRx app. Went to Walmart and the person behind the desk knew me and told me to just buy them outright....the GoodRx price was a LOT higher. She said they aren't supposed to tell customers when they see they are being screwed.

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navychop

Thursday at 9:49 PM

That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.

God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?

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Bobby

Thursday at 10:06 PM

navychop said:
That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.

God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?

Actually I take just 2 prescriptions, Atorvastatin and Lisinopril. They cost me $6 each for 100 pills. Next year that will be nothing.

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klang

Yesterday at 7:41 AM

Bobby said:
Actually I take just 2 prescriptions, Atorvastatin and Lisinopril. They cost me $6 each for 100 pills. Next year that will be nothing.

Those are two of the three I take.

comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 8:44 AM

dishstaller said:
Went to Walmart and the person behind the desk knew me and told me to just buy them outright....the GoodRx price was a LOT higher

Walmart and Sam's pharmacies have "zero rated" prescriptions lists where generics are $4 (or less). If yours are on that list, then of course GoodRx isn't going to help. Also, GoodRx isn't always the cheapest discount program. For me, the cheapest is usually Mark Cuban's Cost Plus Drugs.

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Yesterday at 1:01 PM

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Today at 8:05 AM

Here in NY State, if you're 65 or older you're eligible for the state's EPIC (Elderly Pharmaceutical Insurance Coverage) Part D supplement that limits your maximum co-pay to $20. The co-pays range from $3 to $20 depending on the tier. The Part D included with my Advantage plan has many tier 1 drugs at no co-pay.

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Bruce

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Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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dishstaller

Thursday at 10:18 AM

Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

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savarese04

Thursday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.

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dishdude

Thursday at 2:02 PM

savarese04 said:
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.

AZ.

Thursday at 2:24 PM

dishdude said:
Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.

I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising

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ncted

Today at 7:45 AM

Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 7:12 AM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

New Gemini Box

The following is from Reddit. -
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/s/orzHBkmqQW

There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/1twlex0/comment/opzeqi1/

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 1:51 PM

I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

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b4pjoe

Yesterday at 1:59 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

My guess it is like the 2 previous boxes where you can turn it off/on but requires a reboot once you make the change for the change to take effect. Not sure if there is some limitation in the hardware that won't allow it to change automatically to what is in the content like other devices do. Even DIRECTV satellites own C61K changes on the fly.

Tom Speer

Yesterday at 2:15 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.

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b4pjoe

Yesterday at 2:25 PM

Tom Speer said:
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.

I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.

robjlevin

Today at 7:12 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:42 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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Foxbat

Oct 15, 2026

Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 4:48 PM

Foxbat said:
I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.

Bobby said:
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 7:25 PM

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Jim5506

Today at 12:13 AM

long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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long_time_Dish

Today at 12:20 AM

Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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Foxbat

Today at 12:42 AM

The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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