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Doctor Bob
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Is there anybody out there, that would like to share information on the latest Rumor about the Satellite Industry???

Rumor has it, that Bob Crabtree had a falling out with E* and they decided to close their doors... This all started Friday afternoon, when one of the CSR's told an installer, that they had received "Pink Slips" and were told to start collecting un-employment!!!

Can anybody out there shed any light on the subject???
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Van
Van
Its very hard to do a quality install when you have 3 - 4 more to do ontop of that one.
Satellite Expo
From 9/20/05 edition of the Knoxville News Sentinel

Metron's closure called preventable
Consulting firm official says turnaround plan was ready but rejected

By LARISA BRASS AND REBECCA FERRAR, brass@knews.com; ferrarr@knews.com
September 20, 2005


Metron North America's abrupt closure last week could have been prevented, according to a management-consulting firm hired by Metron's bank to analyze the troubled company's operations.
Metron, an electronics distributor with headquarters in Knoxville, rejected a turnaround plan proposed by Nashville-based Delta Partners this summer, Michael Garrison, Delta Partners' president and CEO, said Monday.


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Metron closed its doors Friday, leaving about 200 workers stunned and jobless.

The company provided distribution services, information technology, sales and other support functions to companies primarily in the electronics business. The company lost its biggest customer, DirecTV, last winter.

Garrison said Delta Partners was brought in by Metron North America's bank, SunTrust, in July to assess the company and craft a recovery plan.

"The typical process is that once an assessment is completed and we move into the turnaround phase, then we move into (implementing) the turnaround plan," he said. "We were there for the better part of the month of July. We were informed fully on August 3 that we would not be engaged by the company to implement the turnaround plan."

Garrison said because of confidentiality agreements he could not disclose what Delta Partners discovered in the assessment or the reasons Metron chose not to go forward with the plan.

But he called the company's move "highly unusual" and said Metron is the first Delta Partners client to reject a turnaround proposal.

When asked if he believed the company could have been spared closure had the plan been accepted, Garrison said, "Yes I do. It was a viable and achievable turnaround plan."

Metron CEO Bob Crabtree declined to comment Monday.

Additional questions arose Monday regarding Metron management's assertion that executives learned the company would close just hours before they told workers Friday.

Final paychecks distributed Friday to employees were dated Thursday, Sept. 15. They were for the pay period ended Saturday, Sept. 17, and weren't expected until Sept. 22, workers said, since they're paid every two weeks and had their last payday Sept. 8.

The company that handled Metron's checks e-mailed a direct-deposit notification to workers Thursday, which Metron said was sent in error.


Dark Monday
Employees who weren't at work Friday arrived Monday to pick up their final paychecks, expressing displeasure that they had to learn about the closure from co-workers.

"(Company officials) did not call us or nothing," said Robin Marrow, 41, a recruiter for subcontractors. She learned she was out of work when a co-worker called about 7 p.m. Friday.

"That's what made me mad about the whole deal. There was no notice. They knew this was happening."

Workers said they've heard rumors for some time that the company was in trouble.

"We saw it coming," said Leann Lunsford, 24, a quality process analyst. "It's been like this over a year. They had layoffs in December and were cutting back in the company. It is hard to take. We have really good friends here."

Salesman Mark Larue, 40, said he already had been laid off effective Sept. 30 and was not surprised by the closure.

"I pretty well knew it was a good possibility," he said. "When we lost the DirecTV contract, there wasn't a lot to do after that. I don't think they had any choice. I don't have any grudge against the owners. I earned a good living."

Larue said he has another sales job lined up.

Others aren't so fortunate.

Jan Moulden, 29, is a single mother who worked part time at Metron and attended South College full-time. She said she wasn't sure where she could find another job with flexible hours to allow her to go to school.

"I'm here to get my last paycheck and my belongings," Moulden said Monday. "I think they held back information. It's been awhile that rumors have been going around about closing. But they kept reassuring us we would have our jobs. Then, 'boom,' I got a call from a co-worker saying we don't have a job anymore."

Workers received no severance pay.

"I'm the breadwinner in my family," said Tom Skibinski, 28, who worked in the call center and was "a little bit shocked" at the abrupt closure. He is married with two children.

"I'll have to go out and get another job. It's not easy, but you have to keep on going."

Erika Andra, a communications editor, has put resumes out and has a side business preparing resumes. She brought information to Metron's headquarters Monday for interested workers.

"I'm offering half-off for anyone displaced," she said.


Taken by surprise
Local officials expressed surprise at Metron's shutdown but said the region was ready to absorb the job loss and fill the building space it's vacating.

Large companies are required to provide a 60-day layoff notice to the state prior to a layoff. Metron did not notify the state, although the law provides exceptions for certain reasons - for instance, if layoffs are not "reasonably foreseen."

Metron was headquartered in the former Albers Drug building on Kingston Pike near Tyson Park. The company also operated a local distribution center in Clinton that, at last report, employed about 60 people.

"We were as surprised as anybody else," said Rhonda Rice, executive vice president at the Knoxville Area Chamber Partnership. Although she took note when the company lost its DirecTV contract and laid off about 40 people, "based on what they told us at that time was that they had other contracts and other forms of business that they were working on," Rice said.

Mike Edwards, president and CEO of the chamber partnership, said as of Monday afternoon two companies interested in Metron's Knoxville building and displaced work force had contacted the partnership.

"We're going to absorb the space. We're going to absorb the jobs," he said.

Edwards said the company never qualified for a Knox County tax incentive program connected to a $12 million expansion of its call center last year because it did not deliver on promised new jobs.

Tim Thompson, president of the Melton Hill Regional Industrial Association, said he got no word the company was going out of business and did not know what would become of the building it occupied near Norris. He said Metron was leasing the space from local developer Joe Hollingsworth.

In February the industrial development board approved a seven-year, 50-percent tax abatement connected to Metron's plans to add employees at its new Anderson County facility, a 124,500-square-foot building that opened in 2004. The IDB held title to Metron's equipment in exchange for in-lieu-of-tax payments, but IDB lawyer Phil Crye said he believed a lien was in place on the equipment, which would likely be enforced now that the company is gone.

"We're ready to market (the building) when they're ready," Thompson said, adding that a "big demand" exists for leased space in the county.

"It's not like we've got 20 empty buildings and here's another one right now," said Anderson County Mayor Rex Lynch. "I'm very confident we'll be able to get someone else."

Metron continues to share warehouse space with local charity Mission of Hope, which is using the company's warehouse to store donated goods for children.

"The Metron owners and employees have been longtime supporters of Hope," said Emmette Thompson, Mission of Hope executive director. "I don't know right now what the exact status is going to be with us there."

Business writer Larisa Brass may be reached at 865-342-6318 and business writer Rebecca Ferrar may be reached at 865-342-6357.
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The Big Bad Wolf

I want to set the record straight about who is the bad guy, here, because it sure isn't Metron.

When D* cancelled its contract with Metron, without warning and nine months before the contract was to expire, they had no reason - admitted they had no reason. They simply wanted Metron's share of the satellite pie. After D* severed the relationship with Metron, Metron approached E* to start negotionations. Mind you, the contract was OVER, according to D*, and D* knew Metron relied heavily on that revenue to keep over 300 people employed, yet when D* found out Metron was talking to E*, D* simply did not want Metron to build up E* the way Metron built up D* over the years. D* refused to pay Metron for all of fourth quarter of last year! For work already done! Metron absorbed all those costs and made sure all the installers got paid the whole time. Metron also filed a lawsuit against D*, which we all know is fruitless because the whole world is suing D* but they'll never see a dime.

Metron signed a contract with E* recently - it was to be a very good deal for all parties involved - especially installers. Unfortunately, it was too late. Other clients had gotten wind of how financially troubled Metron was because of D* and the length of time it took to negotiate with E* and started pulling contracts. The already very fragile system collapsed quickly.

So despite what some rogue installers are saying on other sites, Metron and InstallationPro were good companies that believed in their installers, held all installers to a much higher level of quality that other companies, paid on time, and worked very hard to make it happen.

And to my last days, I will tell everyone I ever come in contact with to never buy D* because it is run by greedy, selfish, uncaring monsters who make installers do more and more for less and less. They are no better than textile companies who open plants in third-world countries to make small children work 12-hour days for 15 cents.
Van
Van
What little Ive heard of Metron in the past has never been bad, it is a shame that so many people have lost theyr jobs this way and a greater shame that it wasnt handled better by the management. As for what D did I wouldnt be surprised to see D fleet vans popping in that area as has been showing up here in the metro detroit area.
Doctor Bob
Sorry that you had to go thru all that you did with the loss of Metron, TivoGirl...

But as you can see, by this article below, (go to the Knoxville News as this site will not allow URL's to be put on it) this was preventable... I also did work for Metron, and shut them off when they started lying to us about our pay... We had to re-fax work orders 4 & 5 times, when they said that they had not received our paperwork!!! They also Lied about several other things that as a so called "Christian Company" they didn't even have to lie about...

PS: No love loss here for D* either!!! They are Wolves in Sheep's clothing!!! LOL


Metron's closure called preventable
Knoxville News Sentinel (subscription) - Knoxville,TN,USA
Metron North America's abrupt closure last week could have been prevented, according to a management-consulting firm hired by Metron's bank to analyze the ...
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dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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dfergie
$4.04 most places, Diesel $5.85...
Bobby
Regular$5.459​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Billboard along I-10 had reg at $3.81 and diesel at $5.54
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Regular$5.399​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
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$3.55
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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To Know Him Is To Love Him - The Teddy Bears
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Really Wanna Know You - Gary Wright
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Don't WANNA KNOW-Maroon 5
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I Want to Know What Love Is - Foreigner
Bobby
Oh What A Night For Dancing - Barry White
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
https://www.directv.com/insider/mysports-changes-the-game/
https://streamtv.directv.com/mysports/ (You might have to logout or open a private window to see the details)
As of now this is only available for streaming customers in select markets. Existing streaming customers can switch to it for $69.99, but they are not eligible for the $20 off for 3 months discount. More genre-specific packages will launch during the first half of the year.


At launch, MySports includes 40 sports and broadcast channels and is initially available in 24 metro areas, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco Bay Area, and others. Click here for more information and the list of initial launch markets. The availability of MySports will expand into additional markets as DIRECTV adds more local stations to the package.

The streamlined MySports package includes national and local channels in select markets, as well as live news channels.

National sports channels immediately available through MySports include ACC Network, Big Ten Network, DIRECTV 4K Live, DIRECTV 4K Live 2, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, Golf Channel, MLB Network, NBA TV, NFL Network, NHL Network, SEC Network, TBS, TNT, TruTV and USA Network. Local channels will initially include any stations owned and operated by ABC, FOX, and NBC, with additional stations coming online soon.

Additional networks, local stations and ESPN+, will be included in MySports at no extra cost in the near future.

Consumers who sign up online for the contract-free package before Feb. 28, 2025, can receive MySports for $49.99 monthly for the first three months, a $20 monthly savings. After the free trial, it auto-renews monthly, and consumers can cancel anytime.
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K
They recently split the news channels off of MySports, so CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC and MSNOW are no longer part of it.

MySports was decreased to $64.99, and a new "MySports+MyNews Duo" pack is $79.99, which will also give you Bloomberg, CNBC World, CNNI, the C-SPANs, i24 and Newsmax.

Tennis Channel also joined MySports at some point over the past year.
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They recently split the news channels off of MySports, so CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC and MSNOW are no longer part of it.

MySports was decreased to $64.99, and a new "MySports+MyNews Duo" pack is $79.99, which will also give you Bloomberg, CNBC World, CNNI, the C-SPANs, i24 and Newsmax.

Tennis Channel also joined MySports at some point over the past year.
AMC+ now included in MyEntertainment Pack. I guess we know why the $8 price increase.
K
Here's the Insider article. Shudder is now part of MyCinema and Fanatiz1 was added to the Spanish packages last Friday. PX Sports was also added a few weeks ago.

It's not just AMC+ driving the price increases on the genre packs, the rest of the AMC Networks (AMC, WE, IFC, Sundance, BBC America), along with Paramount/CBS, Hallmark, Weigel and others joined since they debuted last year.
K
MySports now has some CW affiliates, and MyNews now has some CW affiliates and the MyNetworkTV O&Os.

At quick check, it looks like the CBS and Sinclair owned CW affiliates are missing.
C
MySports now has some CW affiliates, and MyNews now has some CW affiliates and the MyNetworkTV O&Os.

At quick check, it looks like the CBS and Sinclair owned CW affiliates are missing.
No Hearst owned CW in Orlando
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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osu1991

The Cybertruck was supposed to make the F-150 obsolete. It wasn't supposed to be boring, like a Ford or a Chevy. It was supposed to be "more truck than truck." It turns out, people just wanted trucks that were trucks, and CEO Elon Musk announced on X earlier this morning is that the Cybertruck is dying.


Ending production in middle of next year at gigatexas for cybercab production.
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dishstaller
IF they had made the cyber truck more like a conventional truck, more would have bought it. There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
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There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
As it is, most consumers buy trucks as comfortable transportation rather than commercial utility. The Cybertruck approach to that goal was way out in left field. It turned out to be more of an austere sedan with awful daily-driver attributes (visibility, parking). The expectations regarding truck durability were dashed early on.
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Neutron
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Does anyone here use Apple Home/HomeKit with HomePods or Apple TV to automate smart devices in their house? We have had Amazon's Alexa set up in our house for the last 10+ years and I have been waiting to switch them out to Apple for a few reasons; We are already in the Apple ecosystem with our phones, tablets, and computers. I have never liked Amazon's stance on privacy and I really like that Apple has pushed for privacy for a long time.

I bought 4 of the new HomePod Mini 2 speakers to go in various rooms in our house and we have one of the new Apple TVs on preorder that will be the start of me replacing our Rokus. I have the HomePod Mini 2s set up and have an RPi that is running HomeBridge for our legacy smart devices that worked natively with Alexa but don't work with Apple Home natively. I had trouble with the older smart bulbs not keeping the brightness or light color consistent with what our routines were with Alexa despite trying every setting in HomeBridge with the bulbs just not shining very bright. I ended up replacing them with updated versions that are Matter compatible so they work in Apple Home natively. That in and of itself has been interesting to set up because I have my home network segretated with the IoT devices on their own vlan and wifi and pretty locked down. Matter requires IPv6 and due to how my home network is designed I had to do some digging with AI to figure out how to make it all work correctly.

Apple Home definitely has some shortcomings that Alexa does much better with but I am hoping Apple will continue to improve their Home products and introduce features that will bring it closer to the functionality of Alexa.
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b4pjoe
I tried HomeKit to be able to see my Ring cameras on my Apple TV as they are not supported natively on Apple devices. The best I could get was to be able to view the cameras live but I could not view any recordings. After the last major update version of HomeKit I could not even view the live cameras anymore. I gave up on it after that. If I were going to do it again I would only buy devices that can work on Apple devices natively as HomeKit didn't work well at all for me.
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I tried HomeKit to be able to see my Ring cameras on my Apple TV as they are not supported natively on Apple devices. The best I could get was to be able to view the cameras live but I could not view any recordings. After the last major update version of HomeKit I could not even view the live cameras anymore. I gave up on it after that. If I were going to do it again I would only buy devices that can work on Apple devices natively as HomeKit didn't work well at all for me.
That's what I started doing after seeing legacy devices work hit or miss using the HomeBridge. At least Apple is following a standard now with Matter which is unusual for Apple. Looks like HomeBridge does allow you to see the live views but I haven't seen how to view past recordings. I'd really like to ditch Ring altogether due to their stance on privacy and if I had my choice I'd go with UniFi since that's what I use for my network and I like the idea of my camera recordings being all local and not in the cloud. UniFi doorbells and cameras are quite pricey though.

I'll try to access the Ring doorbells in Apple Home for now but I'll see if it's useful any.
Foxbat
I found that the IoT devices need to see the Apple TV to be able to use it as the HomeKit Hub. Unfortunately, that means being in the same IPv4 subnet.

I was thinking of getting a HomePod Mini for my Mother-in-Law to play music and set up HomeKit scenes, as well as make FaceTime Audio calls. When Apple announced their price rises due to RAMageddon, I kicked myself as they went up 50% in cost. I'll be curious to see the HomeView in person as this might not be a bad way to get her started on automation.

She asked about it because her friends have Alexa and they use it to control lights. But like you, I feel better putting in a HomePod or HomeView that's listening for commands instead of Amazon or Google.
b4pjoe
That's what I started doing after seeing legacy devices work hit or miss using the HomeBridge.
Homebridge is what I meant when I said HomeKit. Forgot the name of it.
harshness
I find that I don't interact with my home automation system (Hubitat Elevation) as much as I thought I would.

Apple made everything more expensive and less flexible with its "our way or the highway" approach. To be sure, a Homebridge server addresses some of the major deficiencies, but it seems like it will always be a battle to keep pasting things together.
b4pjoe
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Neutron
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
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Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
Lol, I'm watching an Apple Tv ON my TCL Roku tv set... I use it as a client for my Channels DVR.
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TRG
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.
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navychop
I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.
harshness
I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.
Until I can get a mortgage on an ATV, I doubt that's going to happen for me.

As much as the price has gone up, the complaints on the forums about this, that, and the other nits surrounding various limitations and Apple business decisions seem to be keeping pace.
Jimbo
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.
I have the Roku's, 2 or 3, I just rarely use them ... I prefer the Google/Android Sony set up.

People tell me that the Apps on the TV will end thier usefulness as they age ... They are doing ok for me so far ... I also have the TV take the App Updates whenever possible ... then again, I don't know how often App updates come to it.

So, so far, I'm doing ok, but if they start to get sluggish, I'll eventually change to a Roku ... I don't want to, but eventually ... (Or buy another new TV :eeek:shh:clapping:biggrin
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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TheForce
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
Foxbat
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
Foxbat
Well, Munro and Associates are now a go-to for mobile device teardowns! Who knew? They have an idea what may be causing the iPhone Duo's inside folding screen to fail 40% up from the bottom:
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samsung made the screen apple designed the hinge for the duo. this has got to be the best advertising campaign for samsung :biggrin :clapping :oops: