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Stuart Sweet
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Last reply · posted in The Solid Signal Blog
Before I ran this blog, I was involved in enthusiast forums. Before reddit, before Facebook groups, before YouTube, this was how people got critical tech support information for their hobbies. Often times you had a group of people who were pushing hardware to the limit and they wanted to know how to solve weird problems. I met lifelong friends in those user communities and I still participate in a few today.

That's why I was a little ticked off, pardon me for saying so, when a user forum for the satellite TV community featured a thread saying everyone was in a rush to leave DIRECTV and DISH. Is it really true? Is it all over for satellite TV? Or is it just more hype?

Here's the fact: satellite TV is still huge


DIRECTV and DISH together account for more pay-TV subscribers than any other service. Certainly when you take out those Comcast and Spectrum customers who say they subscribe to pay-TV but are actually using captive streaming through their provider networks, that's got to be the case. Both companies have been actively pushing customers away from cable boxes and toward apps and custom streaming devices. When DIRECTV and DISH do that, the industry calls it "losing subscribers." When Comcast does it, apparently those people still count.

I'm not going to tell you that satellite TV's subscriber numbers are where they were in 2010, when about 40 million homes had satellite TV. That was about one quarter of the total number of homes in the country. Those days are over. Of course they are. Streaming video wasn't really possible in those days for most people. Today it's so common we don't even think about it.

But that doesn't stop me from saying that satellite TV is still huge. There's something over 25 million homes and businesses still using satellite TV. For businesses in particular, it's the only option in most cases. Cable TV isn't available for many commercial installations. Streaming is flat out illegal in public-facing businesses at this point. Fact is, satellite TV is here, and as they used to say, get used to it.

Why would someone in an enthusiast forum think "everyone" is jumping ship?


When I started using satellite TV, it was still very much an early adopter medium. You bought the parts at your local store, all in cash, and you were expected to put up the dish and aim it yourself. Even a decade later in the early 2000s, satellite TV was what they called a "disruptor." Folks were leaving cable because of what we then called "high prices" (usually about $60 a month) for DIRECTV's much lower priced packages and greater selection.

At that time, there was a very large and robust enthusiast community. And let's be honest, we all needed each other. A lot of satellite hardware, including early DVRs, didn't work the way we thought it should. We needed to swap stories and tips or none of us would be watching TV much at all. Those enthusiast forums were a lifesaver in those days.

Today, satellite TV is in a very stable place. Both DIRECTV and DISH have hardware that's been the same for 5 years or more. The software has been evolving for 20 years and honestly, it's pretty darn good. There's not the same need for peer support that there once was.

When you see someone asking a real legitimate question on a peer support forum, it's often for one of two reasons. Either they're trying to milk every last day out of some older but beloved equipment, or they're trying to do something the provider doesn't support. Both of those are noble goals but they're just not that common anymore. So, a lot of the talk you see on these forums has changed.

I just logged on to say…


You see a lot of posts on these forums now where someone starts it with "I just logged on to say goodbye, I finally ditched satellite but you all have been great." It doesn't mean everyone is ditching satellite. It means that a lot of longtime users (who are getting older, just as we all are) have found other hobbies. A lot of us are in the mindset of finding new challenges and satellite TV isn't challenging any more. Some of us are already at the point where we're cutting expenses and downsizing. It happens sooner or later.

But in the end, it doesn't mean that "everyone" is canceling satellite TV service. These sites are great but they have always been places that didn't represent the mainstream. That's sort of the point of them. It's a place where people who want to do something special find other people who want the same. It doesn't represent what's going on in our culture at all.

Love satellite TV? Stay!


Here's the way I see it. Satellite TV is a great value. It gives you a ton of content with incredible reliability. It's something you're familiar with and something you know how to use. You get local channels and there's always something to sit down and zone out to. Streaming is great but the stress of finding something to watch can be its own problem. Satellite TV is zen, and let's be honest we could all use some zen right now.

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If they were really hobbyists there remains plenty to play with as far as satellite beyond the DBS duopoly. Simply, they probably really weren't.

There's always the impetus toward newer is better. DBS is now old hat while streaming is the new shiny object.

The anecdote about the beginnings of DBS (with DTV/USSB) is telling. It should never have been "challenging"- the tech was thrown onto the market (in 1994) helter-skelter through numerous electronics makers and large retailers, leaving the public pretty much adrift as to what to do with it as far as installing once they brought the big box home from the big-box store. They simply figured folks would tear their hair out and eventually get a signal, particularly since there would be a lot of early adopters more willing to put up with struggle. Some of the existing C-band dealers were allowed in to sell (and install/service, IF they would feel like it), but I was one of those left out, so I continued with C-band a couple more years until Charlievision came out.

Point is that DBS didn't come onto the market well in terms of service and was marketed basically as a consumer-electronics good. DiSH said they'd change that script but mostly didn't- Charlie used the dealers (and used them up) even as he himself had big-box envy, but DTV had already signed most to exclusives. IOW there was a duopoly that didn't serve the public all that well, and DBS dug its own grave in many ways as to limit an enduring appeal. For many now, the prospect of dropping DBS is as delicious as was that for ditching cable back before it had broadband.

Which of course brings to that sticking point for DBS- no broadband.
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DIRECTV and DISH together account for more pay-TV subscribers than any other service. Certainly when you take out those Comcast and Spectrum customers who say they subscribe to pay-TV but are actually using captive streaming through their provider networks, that's got to be the case.
Why take away Comcast and Charter?

First either of them has almost the same amount of subscribers then Dish and DirecTV's Satellite Services combined.

DirecTV-About 7-8 Million ( out of 10.5 Million, the rest subscribe to Stream, by internet and Uverse)

Dish 6.47 Million

Comcast 13.6 Million

Spectrum 13.1 Million

Both companies have been actively pushing customers away from cable boxes and toward apps and custom streaming devices. When DIRECTV and DISH do that, the industry calls it "losing subscribers." When Comcast does it, apparently those people still count.
DirecTV include the internet subs in their total numbers, Dish separates them as Sling , but included in the total of their TV subscribers, but I would not do that, different service.

Also, there is no evidence that those leaving DirecTV/Dish are going to the TV streaming services of the same company.
I'm not going to tell you that satellite TV's subscriber numbers are where they were in 2010, when about 40 million homes had satellite TV.
It hit 36 Million total, not 40.
That was about one quarter of the total number of homes in the country.
Nope, today we have 131 Million Households, in 2010, we had almost 117 Million (thank you google), so it was more then 25%.

Today, it is about 11%, really has fallen.
Those days are over. Of course they are. Streaming video wasn't really possible in those days for most people. Today it's so common we don't even think about it.
And extremely thankful for it.
But that doesn't stop me from saying that satellite TV is still huge. There's something over 25 million homes and businesses still using satellite TV.
Way too high, you are saying about 11 Million Businesses then with Satellite TV.

There are only 17,000 Sports Bars in the US.

There are only 749,404 restaurants in the US, how many of them would have Sat.TV, specially since that list includes places like Denny's, which definitely would not have DirecTV.

There are around 1,500 – 2,200 Casinos.

So, if every one of the above had Sat.TV, we are still not at a million, where does the other 10 Million come from (using your numbers).
For businesses in particular, it's the only option in most cases. Cable TV isn't available for many commercial installations. Streaming is flat out illegal in public-facing businesses at this point.
I thought Peacock for Businesses streamed via Ever Pass.
Fact is, satellite TV is here, and as they used to say, get used to it.
DirecTV already announced it will no longer be building new Satellites, also about 2-3 years from being unprofitable.

Dish is already there thanks to the spectrum build.

Why would someone in an enthusiast forum think "everyone" is jumping ship?

More have left DirecTV then stayed, that continues everyday, when a average of 5500 leaves.
When I started using satellite TV, it was still very much an early adopter medium. You bought the parts at your local store, all in cash, and you were expected to put up the dish and aim it yourself. Even a decade later in the early 2000s, satellite TV was what they called a "disruptor." Folks were leaving cable because of what we then called "high prices" (usually about $60 a month) for DIRECTV's much lower priced packages and greater selection.
I purchased it and put my own Dish up on the roof, thought nothing can get better, times have changed.
At that time, there was a very large and robust enthusiast community. And let's be honest, we all needed each other. A lot of satellite hardware, including early DVRs, didn't work the way we thought it should. We needed to swap stories and tips or none of us would be watching TV much at all. Those enthusiast forums were a lifesaver in those days.
A total PITA sometimes, things are a lot easier today with streaming.
Today, satellite TV is in a very stable place.
Last year, Dish lost 1.2 Million ( including Sling), DirecTV lost 2 Million, not stable at all.
Both DIRECTV and DISH have hardware that's been the same for 5 years or more. The software has been evolving for 20 years and honestly, it's pretty darn good. There's not the same need for peer support that there once was.
Concerning DirecTV Hardware, a lot of people on the forums complain it is extremely slow.

When will DirecTV release a new box for Satellite customers?
Here's the way I see it. Satellite TV is a great value. It gives you a ton of content with incredible reliability.
What value, a average price of $130 for less and less new content, a bunch of reruns you can get for free on Pluto TV and sports ( except Football) that get extremely low ratings.

I get the vast majority of new (and old) content from Pay Live TV, movies, streaming shows, live feeds of certain channels (CNN for example), HBO, Showtime, Apple TV+, Netflix, all but one in the highest tier (no commercials, 4K) for around $70.

It's something you're familiar with and something you know how to use.
Most can figure out how to stream.

You get local channels and there's always something to sit down and zone out to.
Same for streaming.
Streaming is great but the stress of finding something to watch can be its own problem.
I never have that issue, used to have it with Paid Live TV, because of the lack of new content.
Satellite TV is zen, and let's be honest we could all use some zen right now.
I find streaming is Zen, especially with the better video/sound quality.

For example, would you have watched Shogun on FX in 720P, or on Hulu/Disney+ in 4K/Dolby Vision/Atmos.
harshness
It is hard to be an enthusiast when things aren't particularly flexible anymore and there are so many alternatives that are selling at "market building" pricing. What used to offer the potential for new hardware and programming to get excited about, now looks like little more than a money grab.

DIRECTV's one Genie model has very much stuck it to those who once filled their homes with DIRECTV connected TVs.

I suspect the 25 million subscriber number is high (even when it includes commercial customers) as so many have been forced to seek additional providers. The camel's head is well inside in the tent where it as just his nose a couple of years ago.
N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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M
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
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probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.
N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

add_to_home.gif

Thanks for your understanding. :)
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Foxbat
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
dweber
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
Hooray!
Peter Parker
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Do you mean the safari browser?
BlackHitachi
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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osu1991
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
dfergie
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
harshness
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
dfergie
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.
osu1991

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3


Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.
dfergie
Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax
Peter Parker
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I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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b4pjoe
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
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zippyfrog
I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

R
I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois
R
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Ill

Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Final Update... As of 8:08 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026.

I now have MLB Extra Innings back! Look at the photo! (I did not include full image of the game due to copyright)

Let me just say it was rough! Very rough! And lets just say Charlie Ergen should be ashamed of his customer service team and how they handled this whole issue.

After multiple calls after my last post only to get the run around with answers like there are no refunds on MLB Extra Innings once the season starts, to they are working on it, to accessing my screen and sending multi hits to the box.

All I asked was one simple question remove the MLB Extra Innings which they confirmed I had and reauthorize free of charge. I was given a 1,000 reasons why this couldn't be done.

Well..........

I paid for it myself.... $120.00 current rate and it works!

I called back in to let them know what I done and what I thought of the customer service and told them I needed refunded. I was told they didn't do refunds....

Well again I called back and got someone who refunded the original payment of $150.00 back to my account. A $30 discount for all the hard trouble I went though.

It is now up to you all out there that have MLB Extra Innings to try to get them to do this but I am afraid you are going to have to take your own action and purchase again and beg for a refund or be out the $150.00 originally paid.

Persistence pays off. I don't give up very easily.

You can all go here below to make the purchase if you have any trouble.


I hope it all works well for you! And best of luck to everyone who has it!

I will still be around on this forum. You all sound like a fine group of people! I hope I can contribute more.

Take care!

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Top of the World - Van Halen
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I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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Easy come, easy go- can't count on anything.
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2 Bonus View channels removed today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
A dandilion by any other name.
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