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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Dear Friends,

It's been over 21 years since I have created SatelliteGuys. A place I created for friends to help friends with their satellite services.

Satellite was a technology that we saw grow and bloom before our eyes. We went from seeing satellite offer channels the cable companies didn't. We saw Satellite offer channel in High-Definition years before they were offered on cable. We have also seen Satellite offer 4K programming long before it was available on cable. With that said we also have seen technologies improved so much that we now can watch almost any channel anywhere on a device in the palm of our hands!

Like the technologies have changed, SatelliteGuys has changed as well, and has turned into a forum where you can discuss just about anything. Want to talk about sports? We have a forum for it. Want to talk about cooking, we have a forum about it, want to talk about Internet Television? Yup we have a forum about it! As things have changed so have we.

Over the past few months I have reached out to a few members who were no longer active here at SatelliteGuys and asked them why they stopped visiting us and the answer I got from them all the same answer, they no longer have Satellite anymore.

Because of our "SatelliteGuys" name it seems people think that we are only just about Satellite, nothing could be further from the truth.

While we intend to remain the source for Satellite News, information and help. But we also intend to let the world know that we are more than just satellite. Today you may have noticed that our logo has changed slightly and added the words "Friendly Tech Talk"

I have always envisioned SatelliteGuys as a friendly neighborhood tavern, a place where friends gather to talk to others about all kinds of things and the work to get known as Friendly Tech Talk is a push to try getting more people to know we are here and we are so much more than Satellite.

We have purchased the "FriendlyTechTalk.COM" domain and over time we plan to move to it. It should be noted that the SatelliteGuys.US domain will continue to live on as well. I will note that I have run into some technical issues and found out I cannot just change the forum software over to the new domain, in addition if we change the name in our forum software, many of our add ins for the software will stop working as they are registered to the SatelliteGuys domain name. Additionally, there are issues with the search indexes, as it may mark already indexed items as duplicates, and they may penalize us. I have also found out that ad serving to the new domain name may have issues and the ad agencies may have to approve the new domain name as well. I have a lot of work to do here.

I have been talking to our supporting Pub Members, and we have some ideas for some new forums and some of these members have even offered to help run those forums. We need more of this… we need your ideas on how we can bring more people in and keep them here. So, if you have any ideas, please let us know!

As you may have noticed we had server issues over a month ago. But thanks to the support of our Pub Members, we were able to move to a brand-new server, and we have never been faster than we are right now!

Let's talk about ads for a second. While if you look at our traffic here on SatelliteGuys we are still seeing almost 2 million page views a month, but our ad revenue has dropped lick a rock. In all honesty last month, we earned only $23.61 in Google AdSense revenue. If it were not for the very kind support of our supporting Pub Members we would not be here. I have been paying out of my own pocket when funds are short to keep us going. In deep talks with my wife, we have talked about closing the doors, however my wife has encouraged me to continue and push forward.

I am honestly not sure about what to do about the ads. I am no fan of ads myself. But we need them to pay the bills. I am considering an idea to make the site ad free for all, and instead more to a donation system with a set goal for each month.

My biggest concern about this is I fear that only a few big-hearted members will donate, and it will only be these same people donating again and again. My wife tells me that it is up to them, and I shouldn't worry about it. But I do worry about it.

I know some of you may be well off financially, but I see everyone here as the same. I don't care if you are white, black, yellow, green, rich or poor. I don't care who you voted for, and I don't care who you sleep with. Here at SatelliteGuys I feel we are all the same. In fact, I can go as far as saying I love you all here no matter who you are or no matter what you claim to be.

Over the past 21 years I have been able to meet many of you but there are so many more that you haven't met. And no matter if we have met or not, I consider all of you to be part of our SatelliteGuys Family.

Besides the money I need more help from you. I need you to spread the word about us. If you see something interesting, please help us by sharing links on other social media places such as Facebook and Reddit. We NEED YOU to spread the word about us. Let folks know that we are so much more than just Satellite!

We have the server, we have the technology, we have the bandwidth, please let the world know about us! Over the next few months as we transition to FriendlyTechTalk.COM we need you to get the word out.

I may have created this site, but it has been run by an amazing group of volunteers based on ideas by our members! As you can see our staff has done an amazing job of working to keep the site spam free, and a friendly place to discuss just about anything. Look around at other forums and then look at us. I don't think you will find a better run, informative, friendly and faster forum. A big thank you to our staff.

Again if anyone has any ideas, PLEASE let me know. This is not just my site; it is your site! And when our name changes it is very important to me that we will always be known as SatelliteGuys as well. We have had a hell of history over the past 21 years. Let's make some more!

Thank you for your support, ideas and more importantly thank you for being here!

Spread the word!
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NYDutch
I wonder if changing the logo to "SATELLITE GUYS & MORE" would be helpful when the new domain brings people in to check it out?
P
I feel like I've heard this story before, when DSLReports tried to rebrand to BroadbandReports. It would be wise to keep both domains active for sure.

As to the ads, I will say, I keep JavaScript disabled for this site except to post and I do use an adblocker. They're not too terrible on a desktop but on Safari on iPhone they make the site damn near unusable. Seriously, disable JavaScript on your iPhone (if you've got one) and try the site with and without it, night and day.

I do like the site, and probably would donate periodically if it meant keeping it alive. I was sad to see DSLReports go and would hate to lose this place too. Thanks for keeping it alive.
Foxbat
They've already stopped calling TV the tube.
We were of the age to call it the "boob tube" 'cause watching it made you a boob…

It was a different age, kids.
TheForce
If Scott did decide to charge a premium for the Pit, he should set it up as a true free speech section with no select moderation. The rule would be simple- Free Speech except that which physically threatens or doxes others, including nonmembers. Violators may be banned from the entire site.
Scott should be quite clear with a warning stating- The New Pit is like a cage fight and entering the cage you may be verbally punched! If you have your feelings hurt by something someone else said stay out of the cage. No refunds! You have been warned!
harshness
We were of the age to call it the "boob tube" 'cause watching it made you a boob…
Today's equivalent is the "boob bar" or "boob slab" (an at or near phablet class wireless phone) and it arguably makes you even more of a boob than the TV of yore ever did.
long_time_Dish
Today's equivalent is the "boob bar" or "boob slab" (an at or near phablet class wireless phone) and it arguably makes you even more of a boob than the TV of yore ever did.
I call my 65" OLED screen a TV. Why? Because it's television. It's a ubiquitous thing. People (including myself) use my phone as a TV with the Dishanywhere app. At my age, I'm not going to bother adopting some teen slang phrase. 😁
WhiteBeard
I call my 65" OLED screen a TV. Why? Because it's television. It's a ubiquitous thing. People (including myself) use my phone as a TV with the Dishanywhere app. At my age, I'm not going to bother adopting some teen slang phrase. 😁
But it's nice to know their slang so that you know what they're talking about. I didn't know what simp meant until a couple of months ago. So I decided to get educated on the Gen X/Y/Z terminology.
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But it's nice to know their slang so that you know what they're talking about. I didn't know what simp meant until a couple of months ago. So I decided to get educated on the Gen X/Y/Z terminology.
What is simp?
T
If Scott did decide to charge a premium for the Pit, he should set it up as a true free speech section with no select moderation. The rule would be simple- Free Speech except that which physically threatens or doxes others, including nonmembers. Violators may be banned from the entire site.
Scott should be quite clear with a warning stating- The New Pit is like a cage fight and entering the cage you may be verbally punched! If you have your feelings hurt by something someone else said stay out of the cage. No refunds! You have been warned!
Utterly disagree. Not why I'm there at all. There's no reason whatever to abandon civility.
harshness
What is simp?
Before the recent takeover, "simp" was short for simpleton (someone who lacks common sense).

Now that so many fall under that classification, I suppose they might as well repurpose the word.
HIFI
Before the recent takeover, "simp" was short for simpleton (someone who lacks common sense).

Now that so many fall under that classification, I suppose they might as well repurpose the word.
In todays times they've gotten that lazy that they speak in abbreviations and acronyms.
Ronnie-
In today's times they've gotten that lazy that they speak in abbreviations and acronyms.
Wut r u tlkn ab ?
Almighty1
I wonder if changing the logo to "SATELLITE GUYS & MORE" would be helpful when the new domain brings people in to check it out?
That was my first thought since the discussions is about things both tech and non-tech so the logo and domain should be satelliteguys&more as friendly tech talk would imply it's only for tech discussions. The satelliteguys name should be kept as that's how things started and history.
Almighty1
I feel like I've heard this story before, when DSLReports tried to rebrand to BroadbandReports. It would be wise to keep both domains active for sure.

As to the ads, I will say, I keep JavaScript disabled for this site except to post and I do use an adblocker. They're not too terrible on a desktop but on Safari on iPhone they make the site damn near unusable. Seriously, disable JavaScript on your iPhone (if you've got one) and try the site with and without it, night and day.

I do like the site, and probably would donate periodically if it meant keeping it alive. I was sad to see DSLReports go and would hate to lose this place too. Thanks for keeping it alive.
Wow, never knew DSLR is gone as I haven't visited for probably 6 months but I can still reach the site and other than the front page with news no later than mid-January 2025, it still works.
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harshness
At the top of the "home page", you'll find this:
DSLReports.com website said:
NEWS: dslreports.com is unavailable
only the home page is online.
That the domain remains registered (until May 28, 2027) and the landing page hasn't been physically taken down seems inconsequential.
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WhiteBeard
Utterly disagree. Not why I'm there at all. There's no reason whatever to abandon civility.
And yet many do abandon civility. Many can't make their point without throwing personal insults.
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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jsmit86
Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.
long_time_Dish
148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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Foxbat
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Bobby
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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Bobby
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.
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Foxbat
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
I've saved a boatload of money!
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
Foxbat
The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only stick I with the Apple tv's is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is not worth sticking with it. Later, Apple!
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
​
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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K
Now testing on the stream server:
WJBF-D2 CW Augusta GA
KSVI-D2 CW Billings MT
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
K
PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
D
Weekly Analysis for 10/14/2026:
K
NBA League Pass prep

Some more reshuffles
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The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.
They finally announced ClipperVision, it will be on DIRECTV, but they didn't provide a channel number yet.

EDIT: It's going to be on channel 693
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WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
These are now live on stream and weren't testing on satellite as of yesterday:
WETM-DT/19 CW Elmira
WJET-DT/25 CW Erie
KLFY-DT/11 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 CW Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 CW Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 CW Utica
KFDX-DT/4 CW Wichita Falls
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The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.
West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers


Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.
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dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
dfergie
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
R
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
lovin my hopper 3 and my wireless joey i can roll the tv all over the house if i wanted to :oops: 🤔
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Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
long_time_Dish
Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
sdfntx
White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...