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Check out the Moteck SG2100 on eBay. These have a good reputation and should fit your dish. Also make sure to look at the mounting tube size on whatever motor you buy. There are 40mm and 55 mm etc..

SatJoe44 said:

I got me a 36 inch geosat dish, now I need a motor...

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As Casey says, check ebay and any other online marketplace such as facebook, kijiji (Canada), etc. You will need to look hard since Ku USALS motors are as rare as hen's teeth. I don't think you will find new but you never know. Motors are heavy so shipping will add to the price.

I found a Stab HH120 rotator, like new, last summer locally via an ad on facebook marketplace. The seller wanted US$15 so I offered full price! I don't think he had any hope of ever selling it since there aren't too many FTAers around here anymore. I used up a lot of luck by finding this.

cyberham said:

As Casey says, check ebay and any other online marketplace such as facebook, kijiji (Canada), etc. You will need to look hard since Ku USALS motors are as rare as hen's teeth. I don't think you will find new but you never know. Motors are heavy so shipping will add to the price.

I found a Stab HH120 rotator, like new, last summer locally via an ad on facebook marketplace. The seller wanted US$15 so I offered full price! I don't think he had any hope of ever selling it since there aren't too many FTAers around here anymore. I used up a lot of luck by finding this.

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Nice!

Hyper Casey said:

Check out the Moteck SG2100 on eBay. These have a good reputation and should fit your dish. Also make sure to look at the mounting tube size on whatever motor you buy. There are 40mm and 55 mm etc..

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I second this, I bought one and am using it on a smaller DirectTV dish that works good enough for my Ku motoring

k4otl said:

I second this, I bought one and am using it on a smaller DirectTV dish that works good enough for my Ku motoring

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Ok. I will try to find one not on ebay as I no longer have an ebay account.

SatJoe44 said:

Ok. I will try to find one not on ebay as I no longer have an ebay account.

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No ebay?!?!? , I hardly use anything else lol. Don't worry, I rarely use Amazon

cyberham said:

...I found a Stab HH120 rotator, like new, last summer locally via an ad on facebook marketplace. The seller wanted US$15 so I offered full price! I don't think he had any hope of ever selling it since there aren't too many FTAers around here anymore. I used up a lot of luck by finding this.

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This story was completely accurate...except for the item! The item was in fact a VBox7 mover for a C-band actuator, not a Stab HH120.

In actual fact, I did source from kijiji a like-new Stab HH120 last summer too from a former FTAer and I paid him US$54 for it plus shipping. He included a used SG-2100 motor for free in the deal and lots of other stuff like cables, LNBs and diseqc switches. I feel I was lucky on this deal too.

Jason making the argument others have posited here. Personally I've only ever felt like the MNF double headers were too much. A whole another game after MNF felt like a bridge too far and it was hard to care unless it was one of my teams (and even then, ugh). Pretty much any other time the NFL being on made the event / holiday that is going on an even bigger one.

Leaning into Jason's point too though, my favorite 'non traditional' slot for an NFL game is actually on Sunday - those 6:30am international games, I've loved those when I had an earlier schedule.


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meStevo said:

Jason making the argument others have posited here. Personally I've only ever felt like the MNF double headers were too much. A whole another game after MNF felt like a bridge too far and it was hard to care unless it was one of my teams (and even then, ugh). Pretty much any other time the NFL being on made the event / holiday that is going on an even bigger one.

Leaning into Jason's point too though, my favorite 'non traditional' slot for an NFL game is actually on Sunday - those 6:30am international games, I've loved those when I had an earlier schedule.


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I agree with Jason on this .... Too Many Non Sunday games.

Jimbo said:

Too Many Non Sunday games.

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Does it really matter as long as the games aren't on a conventional workday or interfere with college games?

Pats coming to Cleveland in preseason. $100 for the inner-bowl. $60 for front row of the top section. Having a hard time pulling the trigger on that.

Last time I saw the Patriots in person was when they lost to the Browns (in Cleveland) in 2000, Bledsoe was the QB.
Which is why I'm watching Stamps and Argo's game on CFL+.


Getting older. Haven't been to a CFL game is nearly as long. I went to three Labor Day classics between the Argos and TiCats too long ago.

Yespage said:

Pats coming to Cleveland in preseason. $100 for the inner-bowl. $60 for front row of the top section. Having a hard time pulling the trigger on that.

Last time I saw the Patriots in person was when they lost to the Browns (in Cleveland) in 2000, Bledsoe was the QB.
Which is why I'm watching Stamps and Argo's game on CFL+.


Getting older. Haven't been to a CFL game is nearly as long. I went to three Labor Day classics between the Argos and TiCats too long ago.

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Redblacks and RoughRiders on CBSSN tonight for USA viewers

harshness said:

Does it really matter as long as the games aren't on a conventional workday or interfere with college games?

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It doesn't matter when ... they start dropping the price of the packages that those games are leaving.

Sunday Ticket should be no more than $300 EVER, with all the games Not on it anymore.

Or, Finally sell games to your teams for a reasonable price for the Season.

Yespage said:

Pats coming to Cleveland in preseason. $100 for the inner-bowl. $60 for front row of the top section. Having a hard time pulling the trigger on that.

Last time I saw the Patriots in person was when they lost to the Browns (in Cleveland) in 2000, Bledsoe was the QB.
Which is why I'm watching Stamps and Argo's game on CFL+.


Getting older. Haven't been to a CFL game is nearly as long. I went to three Labor Day classics between the Argos and TiCats too long ago.

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Your debating on paying $60 vs $ 100 for PRESEASON ?
I'm not sure if I'd do that for an IN Season game

Pats will beat the Browns by 14 points at the very least ... Browns will be lucky to score 14 points . (In real games that is)

Jimbo said:

It doesn't matter when ... they start dropping the price of the packages that those games are leaving.

Sunday Ticket should be no more than $300 EVER, with all the games Not on it anymore.

Or, Finally sell games to your teams for a reasonable price for the Season.

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As usual, this doesn't make any sense. The value proposition of NFLST is always variable based on the number of prime time games your team plays (for single-team viewers) and any that have been lost are a small fraction of the total that wouldn't have a material impact on the overall price even if it were priced or valued on a per game basis.

Wired link might be paywalled, so here is another article:

This may be too little, to late in view of the Pixel's advancements in practical repairability (8.5 out of 10).

Their questionable support for the TMO network isn't going to add to the attraction.

The specifications are enticing to be sure at the price point, but there's a lot of inertia to overcome.

If you're interested in DIY phone maintenance, this is the phone for you.

Well, Markham has come and gone. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Literally. Friday practice didn't happen because the track wasn't ready yet.

Saturday was a day full of racing and anxiety. Fox One has been struggling to properly carry things. And drivers were getting used to a new track that had uniqueness and some... well they apparently didn't bring enough jersey barriers or a measuring tape. The hairpin was a bloody mess. Instead of a proper hairpin, it was literally just an end to the jersey barriers. This lead to major issues in the race.

The drivers acclimated to the course, some better than others. Louis Foster, of all people, perfected the lap. Blowing out just about everyone but Palou! Half second, I think. Come qualifying, it was nuts. Dale Coyne drivers were all of a sudden competitive. making the fast 12. JHR did well with Veekay who managed to slot into the Fast Six... again! The fast six included six teams with RLL winning the pole and Dennis Hauger qualifying in the top six. This is awesome!

But then the race started. And what made for great qualifying didn't make for great racing. Passing was extremely hard. Lundgaard had a slow start and that screwed over Veekay as he couldn't get by Hauger who would be losing close to a second a lap, and because they are all driving to the same fuel numbers, there is not enough speed differential, and Veekay is stuck. JHR make a bad decision to pit Veekay, so he isn't stuck behind Hauger... but the pit lane is short, they get him out in 6.6 seconds... and now he is stuck behind other cars. BLEEP!!! His race is boned. No way to get around that now. Foster was having a much better than expected race. His practice/qualifying performance was unexpectedly happening in the race. Even after the first pit stop, he came out looking good.

Then after the first yellow, Indycar started the demolition derby part of the race. A lot of it at the hairpin where there were multiple lines, but really only one exit. Cars were backing up, trying not to stall and there was lots of contact. It started looking dumb. Much more yellow than green. Foster's race would end in a pass on Ericsson in a hard hit straight into the wall. Then... about 35 laps remaining, there is a yellow. Everyone pits, except for Andretti, as they can make the finish one that last stop, with enough fuel save. The entire world slapped its forehead at the obvious stupidity of Andretti of not pitting Ericsson who was leading and Power. That was totally going to bite them in the end.

Grosjean inherits the lead after Ericsson went on a time trial and gave himself a 17 or 18 second lead on Grosjean before pitting. The race has calmed down... as everyone but Will Power and Marcus Ericsson are in fuel save mode. Grosjean is safely ahead, but then something weird happens. The Andretti cars aren't in fuel save mode, and are driver 0.5+ second faster laps. With the very short pit lane, the drop from pitting under green isn't that bad. Ericsson races forward, passing cars that are sipping fuel, and even Grosjean has to give up his spot.

The idiots in charge of Andretti turn out to the ones capable of doing math and get the race win and a third on the podium as well. Grosjean finishes in second, repeating Veekay's performance in Greater Toronto last year, that too on the alternate fuel strategy. Thanks to the demolition derby portion of the race, Veekay was able to manage a 7th place finish despite the extended fuel save (he was in 5th) and having nose cone damage from making contact on Palou's car in the hairpin.

Kirkwood crashed out, so the Championship race is a tight one for second. Palou has it all but wrapped up now with another top 5 to his credit.

A side note on Palou. He has finished in the top 5 more than 2/3's of his races. He has won more than 1/5 of his races. Podium'd about half of them. He has won 6 races this season, in what has been a 'lackluster' to some season for Palou. In all of USAC/Indycar history (going back to 1905), only 74 drivers have won 6 races or more in a career!

Still hate the street course racing. I rarely watch anymore and only if it's an oval or true road course race.

A little Freedom 250 humor. The race course makes so much more sense now.

I'll laugh while it's still up…

dfergie said:

Teaser…

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L L Cool J needs to lose weight. He's starting to look like Steven Segal in his later years when he started wearing black to cover up his tummy.

Honestly don't have high hopes for this one. Don't particularly care for Scott Caan.

teachsac said:

Honestly don't have high hopes for this one. Don't particularly care for Scott Caan.

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Same here, aggravated that Origins is delayed for this.

Well lets see LL Cool J has been cancelled on NCIS L.A. and then went to NCIS Hawaii and they got cancelled, and now he will be on NCIS New York? How long before they cancel that too? He seems to be bad luck.

Scott Caan was ok on Hawaii Five-0, but liked the dynamic between him and his costar Alex O'Loughlin on the show. He wasn't that great in the Fox show Alert: Missing Persons Unit he did for a couple of years. He seems to keep playing the same character with different names. One trick acting.

MikeD-C05 said:

Well lets see LL Cool J has been cancelled on NCIS L.A. and then went to NCIS Hawaii and they got cancelled, and now he will be on NCIS New York? How long before they cancel that too? He seems to be bad luck.

Scott Caan was ok on Hawaii Five-0, but liked the dynamic between him and his costar Alex O'Loughlin on the show. He wasn't that great in the Fox show Alert: Missing Persons Unit he did for a couple of years. He seems to keep playing the same character with different names. One trick acting.

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I'd say those shows could have been gone without LL just as well ...
LL probably was the reason Hawaii stayed on the last few years.

LA should Still be on, but 13-14 years is more than enough for most shows ...

If This Is It - Huey Lewis & The News

What Is This Generation Coming To? - Robert Mitchum

My Generation - The Who

Who Are You - The Who

Squeeze Box - The Who

TVLand is one of those channels one has to change the aspect back and forth to watch a program in the correct aspect ratio. For example, if you watch "The King of Queens", you must set the Aspect to "Zoom" so the program displays correctly in full 16:9. Commercials will also display correctly. But if you watch "The Andy Griffith Show", you must set the Aspect to "Normal" to watch it correctly in 4:3. Commercials will then appear letterboxed.

FeTV is similiar but I think most, if not all of their programs, are 4:3 native so you must leave the Aspect set to "Normal". Only commercials will then appear letterboxed. A pain, but at least Dish gives you that Aspect button on the remote to make the changes.

I have not noticed any additional aspect channel changes in the past few days. So I am wondering if they are done making changes. If so, they still have not 1, not 2, but 3 different formats they are broadcasting SD channels in.

"Unofficially" I count:
37 SD channels where you must set the Aspect to "Normal"
7 SD channels where you must set the Aspect to "Stretch"
23 SD channels where you must set the Aspect to "Zoom" or depending in the program, change to "Normal" (Mainly TVLand and FeTV)

I am surprised they never had the HD feed for TV Land. Which is strange as it is HD if you use DIsh Anywhere.

Scott Greczkowski said:

I am surprised they never had the HD feed for TV Land. Which is strange as it is HD if you use DIsh Anywhere.

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The same can be said for the Encore Channels, Oxygen, Hallmark Family, FeTV, Movieplex, Disney XD, Boomerang, TeenNick, Grit, Laff, StartTV, H&I, and many more...
All of which are in HD on Dish Anywhere, but are in SD on satellite!

winter60 said:

"Unofficially" I count:
37 SD channels where you must set the Aspect to "Normal"
7 SD channels where you must set the Aspect to "Stretch"
23 SD channels where you must set the Aspect to "Zoom" or depending in the program, change to "Normal" (Mainly TVLand and FeTV)

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Wow! I remember this aspect ration confusion from around 25 years ago. I came up with a simple solution for me: Only watch the HD channels! I'm not sure if I should be surprised that nothing has changed since then. The aspect ratio issue is difficult, since black bars bother some people, cutting off the tops and bottoms of the image bothers some people, and distorting the image ("stretch") bothers some people.

winter60 said:

The same can be said for the Encore Channels, Oxygen, Hallmark Family, FeTV, Movieplex, Disney XD, Boomerang, TeenNick, Grit, Laff, StartTV, H&I, and many more...
All of which are in HD on Dish Anywhere, but are in SD on satellite!

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And that's why I don't understand (especially since the addition of all the streaming BonusView channels and some of the streaming HBO/Cinemax channels) why they don't give us the HD DishAnywhere feed in the guide, and let us choose which to favorite (and subsequently watch and record from).

syphix said:

And that's why I don't understand (especially since the addition of all the streaming BonusView channels and some of the streaming HBO/Cinemax channels) why they don't give us the HD DishAnywhere feed in the guide, and let us choose which to favorite (and subsequently watch and record from).

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...and that's the $64,000 question!

I think there are some licensing issues where some program material can not be delivered via streaming, but can be delivered via OTA or satellite. I think that is why, once in a while, channels like MeTV, Movies!, Retro TV, and others have to substitute different programs or episodes for their streaming carriages. It is seldom, but they do it. On MeTV, it is apparent when they do this because the "MeTV" logo will be missing in the lower right hand screen on their streaming feed and they will be showing a different episode. The OTA feed will always show the logo.

But I am not aware, (and what do I know) where there are licensing issues where a program can be steamed, but not aired by satellite.

I would love to watch MoviePlex in HD via streaming using my H3. Instead, I have to switch HDMI inputs on my TV to my Firestick, find and launch my DishAnyware App, wait for it to open, scroll through the Guide to that channel and finally open the channel so I can watch it in HD. Same can be said for TV Land, FeTV, Encore Family, Oxygen, and others. This is ridiculous!

Adding these DishAnywhere HD channels to the H3 Guide should have no effect on satellite band use since they are streamed. They can keep their respective SD satellite feeds for anyone who does not want to use internet data, and to them, it would be business unchanged.

Dish hasn't really had any big disputes that I can remember in a few years now.

I would love to see when they renew the ESPN deal that we get access to ESPN Unlimited like DIRECTV folks do, as I don't feel like paying an additional $29.99 a month just to watch the WWE Pay Per Views. (But thats just me)

Scott Greczkowski said:

Dish hasn't really had any big disputes that I can remember in a few years now.

I would love to see when they renew the ESPN deal that we get access to ESPN Unlimited like DIRECTV folks do, as I don't feel like paying an additional $29.99 a month just to watch the WWE Pay Per Views. (But thats just me)

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Id'e love to see em give ceo's pay cuts!!! all these rate increases are insane

John2021 said:

Id'e love to see em give ceo's pay cuts!!! all these rate increases are insane

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Would a dollar a year per subscriber be a fair CEO paycheck?

NYDutch said:

Would a dollar a year per subscriber be a fair CEO paycheck?

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YEP!!!

John2021 said:

YEP!!!

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I'm sure Charlie and Erik would have appreciated the raises back when Dish wasn't in such dire straights as it's been until recently.

These are the latest numbers I could find:

As Chairman at DISH Network CORP, Charles W. Ergen made $3,219,778 in total compensation. Of this total $1,000,000 was received as a salary, $0 was received as a bonus, $0 was received in stock options, $0 was awarded as stock and $2,219,778 came from other types of compensation. This information is according to proxy statements filed for the 2022 fiscal year.

As President and Chief Executive Officer at DISH Network CORP, W. Erik Carlson made $10,820,717 in total compensation. Of this total $1,000,000 was received as a salary, $1,000,000 was received as a bonus, $5,562,541 was received in stock options, $3,251,156 was awarded as stock and $7,020 came from other types of compensation. This information is according to proxy statements filed for the 2022 fiscal year.

https://www.salary.com/tools/executive-compensation-calculator/charles-w-ergen-salary-bonus-stock-options-for-dish-network-corp

NYDutch said:

As President and Chief Executive Officer at DISH Network CORP, W. Erik Carlson made $10,820,717 in total compensation. Of this total $1,000,000 was received as a salary, $1,000,000 was received as a bonus, $5,562,541 was received in stock options, $3,251,156 was awarded as stock and $7,020 came from other types of compensation. This information is according to proxy statements filed for the 2022 fiscal year.

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Erik is now the CEO of RE/MAX.

Scott Greczkowski said:

Erik is now the CEO of RE/MAX.

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Yep, as I said, the latest info I could find. 2022...

Scott Greczkowski said:

Dish hasn't really had any big disputes that I can remember in a few years now.

I would love to see when they renew the ESPN deal that we get access to ESPN Unlimited like DIRECTV folks do, as I don't feel like paying an additional $29.99 a month just to watch the WWE Pay Per Views. (But that's just me)

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Or whatever ESPN Unlimited has to offer (of course mainly ESPN+ content since you already get the linear stuff.

NASCARfan18 said:

Or whatever ESPN Unlimited has to offer (of course mainly ESPN+ content since you already get the linear stuff.

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Don't forget AI Sportscenter for you based on your favorite teams. I watched that once, it was one too many times.

Bringing this thread back up because we are closing in on the Dish contract with ESPN expiring, and to my knowledge, they have not resolved the litigation with the daily passes nor have they signed a new contract extension.

The last 3 Dish contracts with Disney have expired on September 30/October 1. It would not surprise me at all if this upcoming contract expires at the same time as there is leverage with ESPN and College Football/NFL. Only in 2022 were the Disney channels pulled. In 2013, there were multiple threats and mini extensions before the long term extention was announed in March 2014.

Next possible dispute:

From everything I am seeing this issue is ONLY happening with the single tuner OTA adapter, please correct me if someone is having the issue with a dual tuner adapter.

Rick Durham said:

From everything I am seeing this issue is ONLY happening with the single tuner OTA adapter

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That's enough....fix the issue or at least send existing customers a FREE fix rather than sending work orders to retailers like me, expecting ME to fix something you KNOW I can't fix.
Sorry for the rant but unless you lace MY shoes, don't judge.

dishstaller said:

That's enough....fix the issue or at least send existing customers a FREE fix rather than sending work orders to retailers like me, expecting ME to fix something you KNOW I can't fix.
Sorry for the rant but unless you lace MY shoes, don't judge.

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I'm not judging you, and I definitely appreciate the knowledge you bring to the forum. However, Rick and Brittany have been very helpful over the years also. I don't think you should be calling them out publicly on the forum, especially for something they probably have very little control over. Get a private room for your family squabbles.

rvvaquero said:

I don't think you should be calling them out publicly on the forum, especially for something they probably have very little control over

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That's the problem we retailers face on a near daily basis. I am constantly told that either I'm the only having a certain issue, when I've talked to multiple dealers facing the same thing. Or, I get no response.
It is VERY frustrating to be bombarded with irate customers when I have actual work to do.
I have YET to get a single piece of communication explaining this issue or any type of fix or update. The ONLY way I knew that this was a problem was because of THIS forum....otherwise I would have gone out to the first customer's house with no clue as to what I was facing and probably would have wasted a lot of time, effort and money trying to solve a problem that is, as of now, unsolvable. I would have replaced the OTA adapter, which wouldn't solved the problem. I would have swapped the H3, which would not have solved the problem. Many hours of MY time would have been utterly wasted, whereas a simple heads up email would have cleared things up.
The "that's not my dept" line is not well received these days by those of us in the trenches.

dishstaller said:

That's the problem we retailers face on a near daily basis. I am constantly told that either I'm the only having a certain issue, when I've talked to multiple dealers facing the same thing. Or, I get no response.
It is VERY frustrating to be bombarded with irate customers when I have actual work to do.
I have YET to get a single piece of communication explaining this issue or any type of fix or update. The ONLY way I knew that this was a problem was because of THIS forum....otherwise I would have gone out to the first customer's house with no clue as to what I was facing and probably would have wasted a lot of time, effort and money trying to solve a problem that is, as of now, unsolvable. I would have replaced the OTA adapter, which wouldn't solved the problem. I would have swapped the H3, which would not have solved the problem. Many hours of MY time would have been utterly wasted, whereas a simple heads up email would have cleared things up.
The "that's not my dept" line is not well received these days by those of us in the trenches.

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You can reach out to me directly with any issues you encounter, I work with Retailers on a regular basic, mainly ones who I met at Summit a couple years back.

If you're a retailer/installer and feel as if you are not getting sufficient information regarding any issue from the business, please reach out so we can remedy this.

Why can't DISH send out replacement ota tuners for 2 ota channels at a time and get rid of the single ota tuner? That seems to be the best way to fix it , unless they have a software fix that can be downloaded quicker. But, I haven't seen things fixed that quickly before - when I had a software problem that broke something.

I contacted Dish Network and was told that the newer dual OTA adapters are out of stock.

We are working on a solution with other internal teams. As much as I would like to be able to instantaneously fix everything, we unfortunately need time to better understand what is happening and why.

Once we have a solution, I am happy to share here.