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J_Smooth
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This new remote could be a terrific Harmony replacement, but some commands (like channel up/down) don't work when the device is added. Has anyone successfully added a Dish remote to the Sofabaton and what settings did you use?

I am using a Hopper Plus, which is listed in their options to add. When I chatted with a service agent, she first said it was a DISH problem as they only use RF. When I explained that my DISH settings were set to "IR On" and that some commands did transmit, she told me to send in a support ticket requesting those be programmed.

I'll probably return this unless I find a way to have all commands work. The DISH remote probably gets 75% of the use. I mainly need a universal to change inputs easily across about five different activities controlled through an Onkyo AVR.
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Bobby
The Hopper Plus and Joey 4 use RF only for commands. That was a requirement from Google. The Hoppers and Joeys can be either RF or IR. So, the buttons on the Sofabaton. which is IR only like the Dish 40 remote, will work for Hopper commands but not Hopper Plus. I don't believe there is a way around this.
J_Smooth
The Hopper Plus and Joey 4 use RF only for commands. That was a requirement from Google. The Hoppers and Joeys can be either RF or IR. So, the buttons on the Sofabaton. which is IR only like the Dish 40 remote, will work for Hopper commands but not Hopper Plus. I don't believe there is a way around this.
Thanks Bobby! This is the exact answer I was looking for and answers the question. Looks like the X2 is going back. Frankly, while it comes close to the Harmony, it fails in other areas (favorites).

So if I'm getting what you are saying right, the reason some commands like Channel up/down don't work is that they are RF due to being specific to Google Hopper Plus. And other commands like guide, home, etc work because they are transmitting in IR. It's weird that the X2 can't learn from the remote either, since the remote isn't unique to the Hopper Plus. Seems like it would learn it, but not be able to receive it.
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Bobby
Thanks Bobby! This is the exact answer I was looking for and answers the question. Looks like the X2 is going back. Frankly, while it comes close to the Harmony, it fails in other areas (favorites).

So if I'm getting what you are saying right, the reason some commands like Channel up/down don't work is that they are RF due to being specific to Google Hopper Plus. And other commands like guide, home, etc work because they are transmitting in IR. It's weird that the X2 can't learn from the remote either, since the remote isn't unique to the Hopper Plus. Seems like it would learn it, but not be able to receive it.
The remote, and I am assuming you are speaking of the Dish 54 remote, is an RF remote only. The IR remotes can't learn from an RF remote at all.
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J_Smooth
The remote, and I am assuming you are speaking of the Dish 54 remote, is an RF remote only. The IR remotes can't learn from an RF remote at all.
Yes, it's a 54.0. To teach the X2 remote, you point your remote at its hub. For me, this just hangs. I tried every code set they had for Dish hoppers, joeys, and the Hopper Plus they had in their database. For all, channel up or down never worked with any code.
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Bobby
Yes, it's a 54.0. To teach the X2 remote, you point your remote at its hub. For me, this just hangs. I tried every code set they had for Dish hoppers, joeys, and the Hopper Plus they had in their database. For all, channel up or down never worked with any code.
And it won't work with the Plus because the Plus reacts only to RF signals.
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J_Smooth
And it won't work with the Plus because the Plus reacts only to RF signals.
Any idea why 2/3 of the remote works? Do those transmit in IR instead of RF?
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Bobby
Any idea why 2/3 of the remote works? Do those transmit in IR instead of RF?
There are Google things and there are Dish things. Google doesn't use every command from the remote. The commands that it does use must be in RF. It doesn't use 2/3 of the available remote commands. The Plus is an add on to the Hopper and is only used for the Google side of things while the Hopper itself still operates as a Dish receiver. The Dish receiver side can still decipher IR commands. If you were to remove the Plus from the Hopper your Sofabaton remote would work for all the button presses.
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J_Smooth
And it won't work with the Plus because the Plus reacts only to RF signals.
What I still don't understand, and it doesn't make a difference about this Sofabaton being a fail for DISH Hopper Plus is that the Sofabaton does transmit about 1/2 of its signals in IR as several buttons do in fact work. It appears that DVR, Exit, Home work. Channel up/down, Guide, Back, and Play/Pause do not work. So, it's not all RF or IR that I can tell.
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Bobby
What I still don't understand, and it doesn't make a difference about this Sofabaton being a fail for DISH Hopper Plus is that the Sofabaton does transmit about 1/2 of its signals in IR as several buttons do in fact work. It appears that DVR, Exit, Home work. Channel up/down, Guide, Back, and Play/Pause do not work. So, it's not all RF or IR that I can tell.
You get the same with the Dish 40 remote and Harmony remotes as well. It is what it is.
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tanman
Any idea why 2/3 of the remote works? Do those transmit in IR instead of RF?
So Google says the X2 does transmit in RF also but it appears it is latest generation only. I also note the RF frequencies are 433/315 MhZ. Wonder if that would work with the Plus?
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J_Smooth
So Google says the X2 does transmit in RF also but it appears it is latest generation only. I also note the RF frequencies are 433/315 MhZ. Wonder if that would work with the Plus?
Nope, I tried both. At this point after several of their suggestions, there is no way to make the X2 work rough the Hopper Plus. I'm returning it. They initially offered just 30% off for a universal remote that isn't universal, but I told them I needed a full return, which they have now agreed to.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Harden My HEART-Quarterflash
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My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion
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SuperDish_Fan23
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones
dishstaller
My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
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I remember this in the news too...

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I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
HipKat
Week Six Balls and Goats and WTH is Going On in The NFL??

Browns. 1st place in the North. Yup. Believe it or not

Chiefs. Undefeated.

Titans. Won a game ! .... Colts I know, but still.

Saints. Won a game after a while.

Steelers. Having the same season they always have. They somehow find wins on their way to an unceremonial 1st round exit. Mike Tomlin is proud.

Cards. Won a game without scoring a single touchdown

Broncos. How they manage to win games with the dogshit offense they have should be studied.

Bears. Caleb's back and so is their mojo.


Goats

NFC East. For the 2nd straight week no team from this clown show of a division won a game. Eagles are cooked without Hurts. Who's not that good anyway. Commanders suck, Dallas is well ..... Dallas and the Giants have no QB.

Ravens. Lamar is out (as usual). But still. Losing to the Browns is never ok.

Chargers. Still can't win.

Rams. So much for the powerhouse team. They are 2 games under .500

Seattle. Lost to the offenseless Broncos.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
rvvaquero
Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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SkyWatcher57
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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(((Garyd)))
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
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More room for the return of the Plague & Pestilence?

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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
a good surge protector will help to.
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SkyWatcher57
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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k4otl
Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
cyberham
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.