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Hopper 3 USB WiFi adapter - Hopper to router WiFi issues

This is my other Hopper WiFi problem. There are two. The other topic is about the Wireless Joey and Access point infrastructure.

This one is about the Hopper 3 to the home WiFi router link.

I used to not care how robust the Hopper-Router link was since it was only used for "maintenance". But now that Dish has started using Internet Streaming on some of the channels that used to be over satellite, we have problems at times when the programming does the typical "buffering" spinning circle...

In my new house the built-in WiFi is unable to maintain a link to my router. It's not that far, but there are two walls, but most important, the kitchen appliances in the line of "sight". I have the latest Verizon 5G system. The hopper connects but can't maintain a signal. I can't get a WiFi extender due to the service and if I upgrade (which I can't due to 5g bandwidth) the cost would be the same as Cox fiber which I have at the house and Cox provides their "panoramic wifi" which places two or 3 repeaters...

Anyway, I thought about trying a USB wifi adapter and using an external antenna. I have an older TP-Link device that I used on my laptop when the built-in card died. I figured I'd try it to see if it worked before trying one with external antennae. The Hopper did not recognize the USB WiFi adapter. I tried it in both USB ports...

Does anyone know if the internal WiFi can be bypassed? Dish has one but it's for the older units and doesn't say if it is compatible with Hopper 3 and it doesn't have external antenna capability anyway...
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You might also try Powerline (Ethernet over Power) to present an Ethernet port where your Hopper 3 is located. I've used the following to good success over the years:
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Foxbat said:
You might also try Powerline (Ethernet over Power) to present an Ethernet port where your Hopper 3 is located. I've used the following to good success over the years:
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Do these need to be plugged into power outlets on the same power circuit breaker?
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tpribors said:
This is my other Hopper WiFi problem. There are two. The other topic is about the Wireless Joey and Access point infrastructure.

This one is about the Hopper 3 to the home WiFi router link.

I used to not care how robust the Hopper-Router link was since it was only used for "maintenance". But now that Dish has started using Internet Streaming on some of the channels that used to be over satellite, we have problems at times when the programming does the typical "buffering" spinning circle...

In my new house the built-in WiFi is unable to maintain a link to my router. It's not that far, but there are two walls, but most important, the kitchen appliances in the line of "sight". I have the latest Verizon 5G system. The hopper connects but can't maintain a signal. I can't get a WiFi extender due to the service and if I upgrade (which I can't due to 5g bandwidth) the cost would be the same as Cox fiber which I have at the house and Cox provides their "panoramic wifi" which places two or 3 repeaters...

Anyway, I thought about trying a USB wifi adapter and using an external antenna. I have an older TP-Link device that I used on my laptop when the built-in card died. I figured I'd try it to see if it worked before trying one with external antennae. The Hopper did not recognize the USB WiFi adapter. I tried it in both USB ports...

Does anyone know if the internal WiFi can be bypassed? Dish has one but it's for the older units and doesn't say if it is compatible with Hopper 3 and it doesn't have external antenna capability anyway...
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You need Mesh routers.
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You need Mesh routers.
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Tried but verizon won't give it to me. Need the most expensive service which costs as much as cox with their fiber. And I hate cox
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Tried but verizon won't give it to me. Need the most expensive service which costs as much as cox with their fiber. And I hate cox
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Give?? You know you can buy them, too, like most of us have
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Bobby said:
Do these need to be plugged into power outlets on the same power circuit breaker?
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As others have mentioned, the new system does work no matter which leg of the power line you're plugging in to. I don't have testing numbers to back that up, but either I was lucky all those years ago, or like others have mentioned, the new standard uses all the wires to send the signals so it doesn't matter.
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Foxbat said:
You might also try Powerline (Ethernet over Power) to present an Ethernet port where your Hopper 3 is located. I've used the following to good success over the years:
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I had two of these, TP link gigabit version. I inserted them into the path. One at the Hopper and one at the router connected to the ethernet port.

They pair up and with a laptop the through put isn't pretty. I speedtest on the ethernet at the router and get the 100mbit down and 10+ or so up that Verizon says I get with this class of product. Speedtest at the hopper end of the "extended powerline ethernet" is actually about 100mbit download but only about 5mbit uplink. That is kinda what I expect when the TPlinks are on separate circuits. (There is no way to combine them).

The uplink speed just isn't enough to keep up with Dish Anywhere. I connected my usual tablet and started watching a DVR recording and a live channel and both picture quality was horrible. It looked like the old days when the app would allow a choice between viewing resolution - it looks like the Dish Anywhere app used a lower resolution because the speed wasn't there. The picture was blurry and "fine print" (like on the TV drug ads) was unreadable...

I also tried a wifi extender. This extender (the 3200 model from Verizon) doesn't work with wifi between the extender and router, but it will backaul over ethernet if connected so I used the Powerline. The result was the same. The Hopper connected to the WiFi on the extender, but the actual speed of the ethernet uplink had same results. Signal strength was impressive since they were sitting right next to each other.

The good part is that since the download ("cloud to router" and "router through powerline" to Hopper) is the 100mbit I get from the raw 5g system, the stuff that was once not very robust (ie, the Dish stuff that is now streamed instead of received over satellite, like the new MeTV) is more stable.

I'm thinking of seeking an actual Wifi extender that will interoperate with the 5g router (the one that Verizon supports is only available with the next up speed/service class but that is not available at my location, that's what I meant by Verizon supplies it...)

The funny thing is that this extender is at the dark end of the house and over a two hour period, most of the 5G and all of the 2.4G devices had migrated to the extender. Devices other than the Hopper don't work in this location. I actually switch my phone off WiFi at night becausse of the timeouts. With the extender everything worked... Uploads would suck since the upstream backhaul sucks but downloads worked OK.

I'll keep poking at this...
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The 2027 Ford Mustang Mach-E Trail Is An Off-Road EV for $10K Less Expensive Than the Rally!

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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Agentic AI Security: Why Unconstrained Agents Alarm CISOs #shorts

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AI, Coding, and SpinRite

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The OpenCode Cyberattack

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Apple's Foldable Phone Is Finally Here

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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones
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My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Week Six Balls and Goats and WTH is Going On in The NFL??

Browns. 1st place in the North. Yup. Believe it or not

Chiefs. Undefeated.

Titans. Won a game ! .... Colts I know, but still.

Saints. Won a game after a while.

Steelers. Having the same season they always have. They somehow find wins on their way to an unceremonial 1st round exit. Mike Tomlin is proud.

Cards. Won a game without scoring a single touchdown

Broncos. How they manage to win games with the dogshit offense they have should be studied.

Bears. Caleb's back and so is their mojo.


Goats

NFC East. For the 2nd straight week no team from this clown show of a division won a game. Eagles are cooked without Hurts. Who's not that good anyway. Commanders suck, Dallas is well ..... Dallas and the Giants have no QB.

Ravens. Lamar is out (as usual). But still. Losing to the Browns is never ok.

Chargers. Still can't win.

Rams. So much for the powerhouse team. They are 2 games under .500

Seattle. Lost to the offenseless Broncos.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
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Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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Hello again

I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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KOQIT receivers

Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
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More room for the return of the Plague & Pestilence?

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SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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a good surge protector will help to.
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(((Garyd))) said:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
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Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
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Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
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Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
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For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
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