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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Almighty1
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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jsmit86
If the OP has a router and a managed switch, that could be the problem.
I have a Hopper 3 and 5 Joey 4s. I recently updated my Router, Switch and access points with Ubiquiti UniFi gear. I had an issue where the switch interpreted the communication between the hopper internet connection and one of the Joeys as a data loop. I had to change some settings in the switch to re-enable that port. Your router could possibly be doing the same thing blocking the connection.

If your router has a malware connection setting, try disabling it temporarily, and see if the internet comes back. Contact your ISP and see if there is a block happening at the router or switch level, or via the ISP's threat protection.
Almighty1
If the OP has a router and a managed switch, that could be the problem.
I have a Hopper 3 and 5 Joey 4s. I recently updated my Router, Switch and access points with Ubiquiti UniFi gear. I had an issue where the switch interpreted the communication between the hopper internet connection and one of the Joeys as a data loop. I had to change some settings in the switch to re-enable that port. Your router could possibly be doing the same thing blocking the connection.

If your router has a malware connection setting, try disabling it temporarily, and see if the internet comes back. Contact your ISP and see if there is a block happening at the router or switch level, or via the ISP's threat protection.
Can you share what settings you had to change?

Required Inbound & Outbound Network Ports
The standard ports designated for DISH Hopper configurations include:
    • TCP Port 80 – HTTP communication
    • TCP Port 443 – HTTPS secure communication
    • TCP Port 5678 – Neighbor Discovery / Device Sync
    • UDP Port 80 – Alternative streaming/network data
    • UDP Port 443 – Alternative secure media streams
    • UDP Port 5678 – Remote pairing and network discovery
Critical Network & Security Considerations
    • UPnP (Universal Plug and Play): Enabling UPnP on your router is the easiest way to allow the Hopper to automatically handle its own port maps.
    Internal Communication (MoCA & Local LAN): The Hopper Plus and Joeys communicate internally over your local home network using router's default internal traffic policies. Local firewall software or strict internal VLAN isolation can block the Hopper 3 from seeing the Hopper Plus or Joey extensions.

    The other thing is that these are streaming channels which was why I asked if they have worked correctly even without the Hopper Plus as checking the post history of the OP, it appears that the Hopper Plus was added around 1/2 a year ago and from looking at my own Internet settings portion, all the Hopper 3 does is really measure signal strenth for WiFi and probably just check ping times to show it is connected or not to the internet, it does not check the actual speed or latency. Since the OP has a Hopper Plus, OP can always install the Speedtest app for diagnostics and then take a photo of the results and post it here. Before 2017, I used tȯhave 6Mbps/768Kbps ADSL and even though the Hopper 1 and Hopper 3 also showed internet connectivity is okay, everytime my Ring Doorbell is uploading, it would knock the entire internet connection off-line as the upload pipe would be 100% filled by the Ring Door bell uploading the video because the ACKnowledgement packets would not have priority being sent back in time which was fixed with QoS traffic shaping but that still does not mean streaming will work as it requires at least 25Mbps minimum or more if there are other devices on the same connection sharing the bandwidth.


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jsmit86
Can you share what settings you had to change?

Required Inbound & Outbound Network Ports
The standard ports designated for DISH Hopper configurations include:
    • TCP Port 80 – HTTP communication
    • TCP Port 443 – HTTPS secure communication
    • TCP Port 5678 – Neighbor Discovery / Device Sync
    • UDP Port 80 – Alternative streaming/network data
    • UDP Port 443 – Alternative secure media streams
    • UDP Port 5678 – Remote pairing and network discovery
Critical Network & Security Considerations
    • UPnP (Universal Plug and Play): Enabling UPnP on your router is the easiest way to allow the Hopper to automatically handle its own port maps.
    • Internal Communication (MoCA & Local LAN): The Hopper Plus and Joeys communicate internally over your local home network using router's default internal traffic policies. Local firewall software or strict internal VLAN isolation can block the Hopper 3 from seeing the Hopper Plus or Joey extensions.The other thing is that these are streaming channels which was why I asked if they have worked correctly even without the Hopper Plus as checking the post history of the OP, it appears that the Hopper Plus was added around 1/2 a year ago and from looking at my own Internet settings portion, all the Hopper 3 does is really measure signal strenth for WiFi and probably just check ping times to show it is connected or not to the internet, it does not check the actual speed or latency. Since the OP has a Hopper Plus, OP can always install the Speedtest app for diagnostics and then take a photo of the results and post it here. Before 2017, I used tȯhave 6Mbps/768Kbps ADSL and even though the Hopper 1 and Hopper 3 also showed internet connectivity is okay, everytime my Ring Doorbell is uploading, it would knock the entire internet connection off-line as the upload pipe would be 100% filled by the Ring Door bell uploading the video because the ACKnowledgement packets would not have priority being sent back in time which was fixed with QoS traffic shaping but that still does not mean streaming will work as it requires at least 25Mbps minimum or more if there are other devices on the same connection sharing the bandwidth.
This was for port settings for the switch, not the router.

Originally was recommended to use EDGE vs. Infrastructure, but had to change that back to Infrastructure.

Had to leave STP (Spanning tree protocol) ON, but disable BPDU guard, and also had to disable Non-STP loop protection.

The previous settings were flagging normal dish system packets as a data loop, and fully blocked that port on the UniFI Pro Max 16 POE switch.

These were specific to my managed switch, and may not apply to the OP's issue.
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Almighty1
This was for port settings for the switch, not the router.

Originally was recommended to use EDGE vs. Infrastructure, but had to change that back to Infrastructure.

Had to leave STP (Spanning tree protocol) ON, but disable BPDU guard, and also had to disable Non-STP loop protection.

The previous settings were flagging normal dish system packets as a data loop, and fully blocked that port on the UniFI Pro Max 16 POE switch.

These were specific to my managed switch, and may not apply to the OP's issue.
Yes, a switch unlike what the consumer calls a router does not use NAT (Network Address Translation. There could be other settings in the router itself that may have a effect as well. A router does contain a Layer 2/Layer 3 switch as well. A Managed switch does contain a Layer 2/Layer 3 router as well, just not the NAT type of router.

I have both HP/Aruba and Cisco Managed 1GBit and 10Gbit switches and never had any of the issues mentioned as my modem goes into the switch first while the router(s) all are connected to the switches. As for the OP, until we know his configuration and whether it ever worked with the Hopper Plus or without the Hopper Plus and just the Hopper 3 only, it would be hard to know where the issue lies since it could be a issue with the provider, bandwidth or the network hardware configuration among other things.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
It worked fine in the past, and continues to have intermittent issues. I am also pursuing my internet provider connection though the tech that came out says the signal is good. I have cleared the cookies and memory in the TV, and I am not sure, other than the normal reboot (soft and hard) procedures for the Hopper 3, what other steps to take. The problem with this kind of issue is having it happen when a tech is monitoring. Intermittent issues are the worst! That's why I asked the original question to see if others were seeing the same type of problem.
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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EarDemon
QCI = Quality of Service Class Indicator.
The lower the number the better.

Each provider makes up their own QCI structure. It's generally first responder, post paid, pre paid, MVNO in that order from highest priority to lowest, but there are a ton of caveats and scenarios. As far as I know, there is nothing definitive put out by the providers themselves on this, only what people have been able to piece together. Basically outside of First Responder plans, the more you pay the higher priority you have. There's a reason that super cheap plan on an MVNO exists, because you are getting the table scraps and a neutered network experience versus those who pay more. You get what you pay for. T-Mobile implements network slicing for Business Plans and T-Priority, which is a whole different topic.



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navychop
You get what you pay for.

Not always. But you sure aren't going to get MORE than you paid for!
dishstaller
Not always. But you sure aren't going to get MORE than you paid for!
That should be on a bumper sticker.
comfortably_numb
I have a TMO Business account and (supposedly) get QCI 6 on my data-only lines, which is better than USM. I also get access to Passpoint, which is WIFI in large venues. For instance I was at a charity gala at a big casino resort last night and my TMO line automatically logged into Passpoint. That's something you only get on postpaid AFAIK.

For USM I'm using "Verizon towers," and that's my primary voice line, so QCI doesn't matter as much. For my primary voice line I need coverage and dependability, not fast data.

Being able to utilitize dual esims makes all this possible.


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Basically outside of First Responder plans, the more you pay the higher priority you have. There's a reason that super cheap plan on an MVNO exists, because you are getting the table scraps and a neutered network experience versus those who pay more.
That's certainly what the Big 3 want you to believe. I was on Verizon postpaid for decades on QCI 8, which is the best you can get on a non-Firstnet consumer plan. I'm now on USMobile Starter Unlimited Warp (Verizon) for $22.50 month.........on QCI 8.

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osu1991
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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dishstaller
IF they had made the cyber truck more like a conventional truck, more would have bought it. There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
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harshness
There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
As it is, most consumers buy trucks as comfortable transportation rather than commercial utility. The Cybertruck approach to that goal was way out in left field. It turned out to be more of an austere sedan with awful daily-driver attributes (visibility, parking). The expectations regarding truck durability were dashed early on.
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dishstaller
As it is, most consumers buy trucks as comfortable transportation rather than commercial utility.
Not around these parts.....we buy trucks and USE them as trucks. I DO, however, know what you mean. Got a friend who is a banker and has owned trucks for years....the paint in the back bed always looks showroom new. You could take one look in the bed of mine and you would instantly say "yep.....this is used as an actual truck".
I had to drop by Lowes last night and parked beside a Ford Lightning. I couldn't help but look in the bed, because that is how I gauge how it's used, and boy was that thing shiny....not a scratch. However, around here I don't see anyone buying an EV truck to actually use as a truck primarily due to range under heavy load.
Jimbo
Not around these parts.....we buy trucks and USE them as trucks. I DO, however, know what you mean. Got a friend who is a banker and has owned trucks for years....the paint in the back bed always looks showroom new. You could take one look in the bed of mine and you would instantly say "yep.....this is used as an actual truck".
I had to drop by Lowes last night and parked beside a Ford Lightning. I couldn't help but look in the bed, because that is how I gauge how it's used, and boy was that thing shiny....not a scratch. However, around here I don't see anyone buying an EV truck to actually use as a truck primarily due to range under heavy load.
I have a Truck, I use it as a Truck as well as Comfortable Transportation ... I don't Need it as a Truck all that often, but when I do, I know its there and its a comfortable as a car that I would otherwise own.

I initially bought the Truck because I can now see Over or Thru most other Vehicles ...
It got so tiring being behind traffic on the expressway and not being able to see at all ... and Every family has to have an SUV ...

Now being in my Truck I can See whats happening with traffic.
dishstaller
I initially bought the Truck because I can now see Over or Thru most other Vehicles ..
Last year I drove my Mom to see a friend in Tallahassee and we took my truck. She was very impressed with how well it rode and, like you, she LOVED being up high and being able to see over other vehicles.

For those of you who use a truck to haul things, especially lumber, you should look into adding a Bed Slide. I can easily carry 12 ft lumber with no issues. And if I'm carry bags of concrete, it makes it very easy to load because you slide it out, load up and then slide it back. The model I went with can handle 1,500 lbs.
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Jimbo
Last year I drove my Mom to see a friend in Tallahassee and we took my truck. She was very impressed with how well it rode and, like you, she LOVED being up high and being able to see over other vehicles.

For those of you who use a truck to haul things, especially lumber, you should look into adding a Bed Slide. I can easily carry 12 ft lumber with no issues. And if I'm carry bags of concrete, it makes it very easy to load because you slide it out, load up and then slide it back. The model I went with can handle 1,500 lbs.
I'm probably a 70% ride, 30% Truck specific ...
A Slide you you have would be great if I was on the 70% work truck side ... great idea btw.

edit:
I would get more use out of a pair of light weight folding ramps, about 10 ft long, for getting the Snow Blower or Lawn mower into the bed.
dishstaller
great idea btw.
This is the model I bought

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dishstaller
Now I did take off that front bar so I could leave the bed extended when I loaded lumber.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Look Back - Boston
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Don't Tell Me You Love Me - Night Ranger
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Tell Me 'Bout It - Joss Stone
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osu1991
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CBS gives the go ahead for Captain Pike, Spock, Number One and The Enterprise to return in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds




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harshness
More eye candy at the expense of a story.

I couldn't get over seeing a Gorn crewman in the shuttle bay of the future Enterprise. The cat-faced girl was baffling.
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Foxbat
The cat-faced girl was baffling.
That was M'Ress from "Star Trek - The Animated Series" who was a member of the Enterprise crew in the last two years of Kirk's command.
Y
This season would be awesome if it were 22 episodes long and these were intermixed in the season. Weird, kookie is okay... but it is so disconnected. This isn't a season as much as a small collection of virtually independent episodes that have very little to do with anything.

They are also abusing Deus ex Machina. Feels more like a 50s cinema serial than a decently serious show. There are almost no consequences to any actions. Lower Decks did a much better job with plot than this season.
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harshness
This season would be awesome if it were 22 episodes long and these were intermixed in the season.
In that few (if any) of the storylines were worth doing (or hadn't already been visited), it might be worth doing more. As it was, it was time to stick a fork in whatever entity was running the show.
primestar31
Just watched a season 4 episode, and got "Event Horizon" lol... Though it seemed better done than how the movie itself was hacked up before release.
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cant find anywhere t get replacement order meter from ebay would power up or charge sent it back
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