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kstile
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My TV is a 4x3 HDTV. As such I understand that it's a bit of a rarity, with nearly all HD sets sold today being 16x9 widescreen. In the settings of the 942 I see that there are two apparently discrete settings for TV Type (1080i, 720p, and 480p) and the other is for Aspect Ratio (16x9, 4x3 #1, 4x3 #2).

My issue is with SD content, regardless of whether the signal comes out via the DVI or component outputs on the back of the 942. Regardless of whether I set the TV Type to 1080i or 720p, and then pick any Aspect Ratio (I tried all combinations), the 942 seemed to assume that my TV was 16x9.

The consequence of this is that with regular SD content my TV shows both letterboxing and windowboxing (black bars all around) - not acceptable b/c the picture is too small. I can play with the Format button on the 942 remote to stretch the picture to fill from left to right, but cannot fill the screen vertically.

There are two workarounds I have found, neither of which is really acceptable. The first is to change the TV Type to 480p. This allows for full screen of SD content, but then the HD content fills the screen also, and doesn't look good b/c it's only 480 lines instead of true HD.

The second workaround is to use the TV2 output to run a composite cable to a different input on my TV. This is the way I currently have it, but that means that when changing channels on the 942 from an SD to an HD one, I also have to change the input on my TV (and, often, change the Format). Not to mention that this makes it less convenient (impossible?) to fully use the multi-room function of the 942.

Can anyone confirm that the 942 will upconvert all SD content on TV1 to 1080i (or 720p) and therefore always be sending a 16x9 signal? Is there *any* way to bypass this and have the SD content sent over component (or DVI) in full 4x3 glory?

I'm assuming that the issue is with the 942 b/c I am able to watch full-screen (4x3) DVD content through the same component inputs on my TV. I understand, too, that every TV (mine is the Sony 36XBR800) is a little different, but it seems like they've left an entire class of TVs (4x3 HDTV) with only the option of using the composite (not even S-Video) in order to fill the entire screen with SD content.

FWIW, this behavior was identical on my 811; I had hoped that with the 942 the issue would have been resolved.

Thanks.
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kstile said:
SKIERROB - Ding ding ding! You win the prize for finally making it absolutely clear where the issue is. I tried to articulate this to the Dish CSR, but he kept insisting that it was my TV. I don't think I'll take the leap you did and switch from Dish, but it's good to know that I wasn't going crazy. Put another way, the 942 always and automatically upconverts everything going out over the component (and DVI) connection to 1080i (or 720p), regardless of the incoming signal. They should have this in their manual.

My panasonic 4:3 does the same thing. I just have to go into the setup every time i turn on the tv and switch it back to 4:3 manually. Then everythings cool. It sucks but it's the only way. :mad: As others stated that TV is sensing the 1080 signal and setting itself to 16:9. I've set up a macro to do it

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kstile said:
SKIERROB - Ding ding ding! You win the prize for finally making it absolutely clear where the issue is. I tried to articulate this to the Dish CSR, but he kept insisting that it was my TV. I don't think I'll take the leap you did and switch from Dish, but it's good to know that I wasn't going crazy. Put another way, the 942 always and automatically upconverts everything going out over the component (and DVI) connection to 1080i (or 720p), regardless of the incoming signal. They should have this in their manual.

CYCLONE - unfortunately all this does is zoom the picture horizontally on my TV - I still end up with letterboxing of the SD picture.

TOM - I see what you're saying and have ended up there, sort of. Unlike the 811, the 942, unfortunately, does not have an S-Video output. The only way out is via composite, component, and HDMI. So I have the component (actually looked better on my TV than the DVI) going to Video 6 on my TV and the Composite (RCA) going to Video 1. Thank goodness for the Harmony Remote I have which allows me to switch inputs and the other settings all with just one press of a button.

Thanks all for clearing this up. Guess I'll just have to get a new 16x9 HDTV to make the problem go away... ;-)

Yeeeesssss embrace WS. :yes

Seriously this whole passthrough bit pisses me off because there ARE people out there that have TV's that can natively display 720p and 1080i who this is inconvencing. Granted my TV is suppose to upscale unfortunately, I have a Sony CRT XBR WS so I guess technically I could leave it on 1080i and it wouldn't make much difference for HD.
Tom thanks for your info there since I'm probably going to be buying an 811 soon as a temporary measure when I get Dish since the 962 and the 411 will be coming out soon enough for the MPEG4. Looks like I'll have to look forward to switching back and forth with S-Video and DVI like you. :(
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Sarang said:
Yeeeesssss embrace WS. :yes

I'm probably going to be buying an 811 soon as a temporary measure when I get Dish :(


You shouldn't have to. All the Dish promotions over the past several months offer a free 811 and up to 2 SD DVR's...
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I choose to own grb.
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This isn't any help, but I wouldn't consider a 4:3 HD CRT a "rarity". It's pretty common in the $500-$1000 range. They make widescreen CRTs for under $1000, but they are only 30" (which is considerably smaller than a 27" when in 4:3 mode.) I was seriously considering a 32" Sony 4:3 HD CRT until I found a good deal on an LCD.

BTW, I would consider this a problem with the 942 AND the TV. Native Pass Through would be great, but the TV should be more flexible as well.

I suppose all TVs have their own little quirks, yours is just more serious than others. Mine "overzooms" when set to "zoom" on broadcast letterbox SD programming, chopping off the top and bottom. Now that I have the 942, I tried the "partial zoom" mode, but it seems to distort the picture a bit.
comfortably_numb
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Not sure saving $24/year is worth it unless you're a hardcore Philo user. I'll stick with monthly.

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Jimbo
Not sure saving $24/year is worth it unless you're a hardcore Philo user. I'll stick with monthly.

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$24 for the Year, would be more useful.
Howard Simmons
$24 for the Year, would be more useful.
But when you cancel you still have to watch until the plan runs out. With monthly you're done at the end of the month.
Jimbo
But when you cancel you still have to watch until the plan runs out. With monthly you're done at the end of the month.
Sorry, my point was the expense.
comfortably_numb
$24 for the Year, would be more useful.

Philo's monthly price is reasonable, IMO, because it's still the cheapest way I'm aware of to get all the linear Discovery networks AND access to the Discovery Go apps.
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Philo's monthly price is reasonable, IMO, because it's still the cheapest way I'm aware of to get all the linear Discovery networks AND access to the Discovery Go apps.
I guess if it was something I used on a regular basis, I suppose.
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In other Philo news..

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Bobby
Oh boy, I can't wait! 😂
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
'Rockford Files' Reboot Gets NBC Pilot Order

I grow tired of all the reboots. Most I don't bother with but will depend on the actor chosen.
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long_time_Dish
Yeah, I'll check it out as well, but shan't be holding my breath...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...
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...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...
I can think of a few actors (including some females) who might fit the bill.

This will all depend on the storyline. I'm not sure how well it will translate. Modern TV hasn't been all that kind to PIs and even less kind to CIs (confidential informants).
K
Premier is Saturday, Jan 2nd. Moving to Thursday on the 7th.
long_time_Dish

I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...
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meStevo
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
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The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
Foxbat
Looks like Episode 55 is over at 09:00 HST, just under six hours. The USGS said the fountains reached 720' or 220 meters.
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The USGS Kīlaeua Webcam #1 has been showing overflows and doming from the North vent overnight. Maybe the volcanic plumbing has settled back into its two-three week cycle of fountaining?

But I do miss the little cinder cone that broke up in the last episode.
Foxbat
Sorry, I should have posted these earlier:

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We're still waiting on the start of Episode 56.
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At 08:01 HST 11/05/2026, the North Vent produced what I would call a "wet burp" after the precursory "pistoning" events, small amounts of lava pouring out of the vent for a few seconds to minutes and then everything recedes. There must have been a gas bubble holding thing back because two minutes later the lava started flowing out of the vent in all directions. Then, at 08:25, it stopped. What a tease! I thought this was how Episode 56 started.

About 12 minutes later at 08:38, the North vent once again started overflowing and picked up steam at 08:42. By 09:00, slight doming could be seen in the pool of lava in the vent. Surely this is it!

But, 09:50 and things wind down again. By 09:57 HST there's just fumes coming out of the vent. Phooey.

But then 10:00 comes and the heavy lava flows kick in again. This time seems like the real deal. At 10:30 HST there's little spurts of lava flying up in the air over the vent, but more from gas than a steady fountain of lava. This looks promising!

11:30 HST and the color of the lava is definitely hotter, and the intensity has picked up to a definite dome and precursor to fountaining. The USGS calls Episode 56 as officially starting at 12:10 HST:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-11-05 22:29:12 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Thursday, November 5, 2026, 12:29 PM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H514
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 56 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 12:10 PM HST on November 5, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 56 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 12:10 PM HST on November 5, 2026.

Lava fountain heights are relatively low at about 100 ft (30 meters), but will likely increase. Ground-level sensors near the eruptive vents indicate that winds are blowing from the northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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dishstaller
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
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I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
dishstaller
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.
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You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."
dennispap
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
I remember that also on my 722.
dishstaller
I remember that also on my 722.
Thanks.....has been too many years to remember clearly.
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Bobby
Keep in mind that the 722 had a built in OTA tuner and the 722K had a plug in module for OTA. The Hoppers and Wallys use an add on USB OTA dongle. I believe they are entirely different.
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osu1991
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osu1991
Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.
Foxbat
Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd🤓 since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.
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I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.
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osu1991
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
Foxbat
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes. 😕
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Shooz - Styx
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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