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trido
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Got word today thta by Jan 1st my area will use the dish 1000.

QUESTION we now use the super dish on 110.119.105

Isnt the dish 1000 ONLY for 110.119.129?

If so does this indicate a local change.

Does any area use 129 and 105?


trido
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SimpleSimon
These rumors get out of hand. In fact, some split markets are moving the OTHER way - totally onto a wing. All of this shuffling is part of the big plan (details unknown - probably even to E* people).

The only slot I see being totally dropped is 105 - even with the new bird, it just ain't great. I also see locals totally leaving 121, which will become I'nat'l only. I can also see old StupiDishes being recycled into single bird units for those that want 121.
B
So are we thinking that all people with 105 SD here in illinois, indiana and elsewhere will have to be upgraded to dish 1000 within some certain timeframe? What a pain! I'm thinking of all those people I had to tell "Sir, I know your dish 500 works fine here, but this superdish won't, I'm going to have to put it over HERE, and reroute all your cables." Then, someone needs to go back and say, "Well sir, I know your superdish works fine here, but I'm going to have to install this new dish over HERE, and reroute all your cables..." I honestly don't have any trouble with my superdish. 105 signal is mid to upper 60's. If I loose my locals on 105 due to inclement weather then I most likely don't have 119 either. So time to watch some Beavis and Butthead on the DVR!
B
Oh yeah, and if you think installing a superdish and making it last so it doesn't have to be repeaked every 6 months is a pain, imagine the new directv 5 LNB dish. It looks at 2 FSS birds. There's even LESS room for error!
M
Understanding the DirecTV 5 slot dish

Hello all,

DirecTV and DISH are both prepping for the upcoming HD local launch.

Here's info on DirecTV's 5 head dish;

It's similar in size to the DISH 1000, don't have exacts.
It's a rounded off-set parabolic rectangle shape.

Looks at 5 orbital slots,
3 DSS (101,110,119)
2 Ka band 18-20 GHz (99,103) circular polarized, like DSS

99,101,103 will be combined (wideband 250-2000/pol
110,119 will be combined (as always) 500 MHz/pol

NO FSS (this is good)

Alignment is MORE CUMBERSOME (I'm trying to be nice in my description)

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Here's the GOOD and BAD

GOOD
Lot's of capacity so adding HD locals and programming will be possible

Smaller than a Superdish, less impacting

BAD
Pain to set-up (Ka is a very narrow beam) must be VERY stabile mount!

No solution yet for commercial installs using larger reflector
(this affects us, as we use only larger than residential reflectors)

Bandwidth goes lower than 950, this is a problem if you are diplexing anything on the wire such as cable, off-air or CCTV on freq's above 250 MHz

Say goodbye to your installed multiswitches, you need wideband replacements if you're looking at 99 or 103

Hope this helps!

BTW, DirecTV will have ALL the BW in the band for 99, 103 Ka and 101 DSS, and pieces of BW at 110 and 119... which gives them a LOT of BW... this gives them a bit of an edge over DISH for HD locals launch. Also the migration to MPEG-4 compression will allow them more net deliverable BW with the new dish.

Let the Games Begin! (or continue as it may be!)

Good Luck!
MDU Guy
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mdu guy said:
Hello all,

DirecTV and DISH are both prepping for the upcoming HD local launch.

Here's info on DirecTV's 5 head dish;

It's similar in size to the DISH 1000, don't have exacts.
It's a rounded off-set parabolic rectangle shape.

Looks at 5 orbital slots,
3 DSS (101,110,119)
2 Ka band 18-20 GHz (99,103) circular polarized, like DSS

99,101,103 will be combined (wideband 250-2000/pol
110,119 will be combined (as always) 500 MHz/pol

NO FSS (this is good)

Alignment is MORE CUMBERSOME (I'm trying to be nice in my description)

-----------------------------

Here's the GOOD and BAD

GOOD
Lot's of capacity so adding HD locals and programming will be possible

Smaller than a Superdish, less impacting

BAD
Pain to set-up (Ka is a very narrow beam) must be VERY stabile mount!

No solution yet for commercial installs using larger reflector
(this affects us, as we use only larger than residential reflectors)

Bandwidth goes lower than 950, this is a problem if you are diplexing anything on the wire such as cable, off-air or CCTV on freq's above 250 MHz

Say goodbye to your installed multiswitches, you need wideband replacements if you're looking at 99 or 103

Hope this helps!

BTW, DirecTV will have ALL the BW in the band for 99, 103 Ka and 101 DSS, and pieces of BW at 110 and 119... which gives them a LOT of BW... this gives them a bit of an edge over DISH for HD locals launch. Also the migration to MPEG-4 compression will allow them more net deliverable BW with the new dish.

Let the Games Begin! (or continue as it may be!)

Good Luck!
MDU Guy

I had read over on the DirecTV forum that the new 5 LNB dish was 29.5" wide by about 24 - 25" high which makes it about the size of a Superdish and much bigger than a D1000. A D1000 is only a few inches bigger than a D500 which is only 20" wide. It requires a 2" diameter pole for mounting which makes me believe that it has greater surface area than a Superdish generating greater wind loading and its LNBs probably make it heavier than a Superdish. By the way I believe Ka band is also considered FSS.

In regards to bandwidth, if Dish decides to use the 130 spotbeam TPs on Rainbow-1, the bandwidth edge probably swings the other way. From a marketing standpoint it will come down to whether folks prefer the single large DirecTV 5 LNB dish or a D500 and a D300 two dish solution to receive their HD locals.
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ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Bruce
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

M
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
S
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
Scott Greczkowski
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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dishstaller
More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


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dishdude
Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
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primestar31

Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
Bruce
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
Foxbat
New trailer has dropped:
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long_time_Dish
Looks good! I'm interested...