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penguinsix
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Hi,

Been up on my roof most of the morning, moving my new motorized (HH90) Fortec 33 inch dish around trying to find some signal quality, to no avail (Strength in the 75-79 range). I know there are a lot of little things I need to deal with (and will shortly after lunch) but I have a big issue I wanted to ask about first:

Trees.

My roof dish is 35 feet up. There are a bunch of trees to the south of my house, about 40 feet south of the dish and extending 50-60 feet high, ie about 20 feet of trees 40 feet away from where the dish is located. I know that is a big no-no, but was wondering if I might still get lucky because I was able to get a pretty strong signal when I had DishNetwork up on the roof in the exact same location that the FTA dish is now located.

So I was wondering, can you get Dish but not FTA? If I got Dish, is that a good sign or was I just lucky (between a tree or something).

Also, I have another option--a seawall into the Chesapeake Bay that has a pretty good southern view until you point to about 220 degrees magnetic. Totally unobstructed to the East, but trees and the such to the west. How much "East-West" (left right) is the dish going to turn? My magnetic declination at 10.85 (191 I gather) and I took a compass down there and didn't see many problems. I was just wondering how far left/right of due south the dish will move.
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penguinsix
I'll check the LNB tomorrow. I'm in the same boat as it is "out of sight" right now and probably misconfigured.

I'm seriously considering moving the dish to ground level on the other side of my home so I can have greater access to the nuts and bolts while I try to get it set up.
penguinsix
The LNB didn't look that off center. I'm going to play with elevation a bit until about "noon" (when I'm going to check my due South vs. the Sun) and then if all else fails, take the thing apart and try a different location on the other side of my house that I think will be able to get past the trees.

I just wish I could get a "hint" of signal quality up on the roof--just 1 or 2 even, as that would kind of mean I'm close. I've been stuck on 0 so much I wonder if I'm doing something else wrong.
dogstar1313
Unless you are pointing at the sat you have the receiver set for you won't see any quality. That's why I would blind scan every time I got a high signal strength. The receiver then would scan in the transponders for whatever bird I was looking at and then based on the channels it found I could determine where I was and where I needed to go. Like I said before it's probably not the best method, but it worked well for me.
penguinsix
For what its worth, I've officially given up on the roof deck as a location. I watched the shadows of the trees in question most of the morning and they were on and off the dish's face throughout the early hours. I've disassembled it and have moved it to a ground location on the other side of the house, where the Sun is well above the trees and the dish will be out of the shadows.

I'm going to plot "due south" in 29 minutes and 30 seconds with a sun dial (i.e. a stick). Will let you know how it goes.
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ive seen a dish network dish that is on a roof and theres a big bushy tree right in front of it, the guy who installed it i guess didnt think trees grew cause at the time it was small but it still gets plenty of signal over 100, but the picture does have a grainy digital look but i think thats how all dish network is.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Almighty1
So after some heavy research, it looks like the issue I mentioned with the DISH 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes where on the 50.0/52.0 remotes, the dedicated TV Power button or on the 54.x remotes where it is using the TV button on the side followed by Power works correctly on a Hopper 3 which runs Linux but not on a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 which are Android TV (ATV) has to do with the Android TV software itself. In all instances, the remotes had always sent out a dual RF and Infrared signal when the TV Power signal is sent from the remote. The Hopper 3 without the Plus would ignore the incoming RF power packet signal which is identified as a TV-specific toggle event, and does not trigger a system-wide standby state. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 as Android TV devices initially worked the same way as well up to sometime in 2025 as there was the legacy pass-through mode in the original software versions used since the Hopper Plus/Joey 4/Wireless Joey 4 launch, the receiver's underlying software essentially ignored the secondary RF payload that the 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes blasted out whenever the TV Power signal was sent. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 recognized it was a TV-specific command and discarded the RF packet, letting the standalone IR signal do its job on the tv.

When the software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 were updated in 2025 and newer versions of the software for those Android TV (ATV) devices, it overhauled how the receiver handles remote commands to tighter integrate the Android TV environment which resulted in the software starting to treat any RF power toggle payload as a global command. As the newer software verion(s) no longer filters out the concurrent RF blast from the 50.0/52.0/54.0 remotes, the moment one sends a TV Power signal from the remote, the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 catches that unintended RF payloadand interpets it as a command to drop the system into standby.

The fix is really simple since the Android TV (ATV) software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 just needs to be programmed to drop or ignore the specific RF power packets associated with the TV Power signal sequence.

The problem could also be at the remotes firmware as the remote's firmware has an engineering defect. When you try to turn off the TV, the remote's internal code mistakenly triggers its RF transmitter alongside its IR transmitter. It should only be firing the IR light blast. Because it forces a simultaneous broadcast, the remote's firmware is the original source of the problem.

The Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey firmware has a filtering defect. Good software design dictating peripheral inputs should include "error handling"—rules that tell the system what to do with messy or unintended commands.
• The legacy Hopper 3 firmware has proper error handling; it sees the remote's rogue RF packet and safely ignores it.
• The Android TV firmware in the Hopper Plu, Joey 4 and Wireless lacks this filtering logic. It blindly accepts the rogue RF packet and misinterprets it as a legitimate signal to force the entire system into standby.

If the remote didn't have a firmware bug, it wouldn't send the phantom RF signal. If the Android TV (ATV) device being the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 didn't have a firmware bug, it would cleanly ignore the signal just like the Hopper 3 does.

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That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.

This is exactly the same issue I was having as I had the Hopper 3 and 54 remote without the Hopper Plus and the symptoms were virtually identical to yours.
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