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Cold Winter
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Gents:

Heres my situation. I have the ViewSat platinum which I upgraded to the latest manufacturer firmware ( the old stuff was flaky on motor control ), hooked up to a STAB120 supporting a Fortec 120cm dish with an InvaCom Univeral LNB ( single tail ). Theres about 250' of 60% RG6U in between.

A blind scan on G-10R ( Galaxy 10R ) gets me 19 stations which appear to correspond to 11700V26660. Sounds good:hungry: ? Well, not really. The ViewSat reports this as 12650V26600:devil: Perhaps you can see my problem???

While a blind scan on the ViewSat appears to find 16 TPs, the GlobalCom listing only has 9... and there is absolutely NO correspondence between the 2 lists:eek: . Yes, I know this is G10R, 'cuz I get the test pattern which has the G10R tag on it...

Any ideas on the frequency discrepancies? I thought maybe the universal LNB running a different LO might be the problem, but the ViewSat immedaitely recognized the universal and automatically plugged in 9750/10600. And no, as you can see the difference between the list and the ViewSat blindscan cannot possibly be a different beat freq. Theres more than 150Mhz difference here.

Any ideas???
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Cold Winter
Tron said:
Check www.lyngsat.com/america.html Blind scan often finds frequencies that are "off" from what they are officially posted as, but usually not by that much.


No Kidding!:D

Well, the saga continues. When I plugged in 10750, like Ice suggested ( just in case Invacom was messing with me and sold and labeled a standard as a universal ) BlindScan found the very same TP, only up in the 13Ghz range:eek: ... yeah... well outside typical Ku satellite range.

Sorry to say this most recent revision of ViewSat S/W ( 2013 ) is pretty buggy. In frustration, I surfed about and came across another satellite board which seemed to imply that the ViewSat could even be used as a C Band STB! They simply dropped in a freq. that was down in the C-Band range and use a C-Band LNB/VBox setup on a BUD. They also indicated it was possible to plug in any freq. you want via keypad... the site in question was beginning to sound like a "hack" site to me:devil: . Sorry I won't go any further on those guys. But they got me to thinking...

I entered 9750 in the LNB high freq field and kept 9750 in the LNB low field. Instantly, the signal and quality meters on the screen when green and hit the limits. I then did an ordinary "Channel Scan" of the stuff thats manually entered by ViewSat, and pretty much acquired every channel documented on LyngSat for G-10R and a few that weren't.

Sounds pretty good eh? Other than the weird LNB freq entry, the ViewSat was tracking all freqs. EXACTLY! I went off and pulled in IA5 just for the fun of it in the same way. For the time being I have more TV and Radio than I can absorb in the next few months.:hungry:

Well, before you go off thinking "one more happy camper"... NOT QUITE:( Simple truth , is that even with this "break thru", the BlindScan sucks the big one. It could only find 19 channels on one TP before, and it still can't do any better:confused: . It couldn't do anything with the other satellites before and still can't ( though at least the 19 it found were now on the right freq. :rolleyes: ).

Now would any one like to speculate on why ViewSat would insert 9750/10600 automatically on a universal LNB ( just like you'd expect ) and have it so far off the real entry point? And why would BlindScan be so... ummm... well... blind? Almost like its scanning to fast to get a lock... :confused:
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My experience is different

Cold Winter said:
No Kidding!:D
Well, the saga continues. When I plugged in 10750, like Ice suggested ( just in case Invacom was messing with me and sold and labeled a standard as a universal ) BlindScan found the very same TP, only up in the 13Ghz range:eek: ... yeah... well outside typical Ku satellite range.
Sorry to say this most recent revision of ViewSat S/W ( 2013 ) is pretty buggy. In frustration, I surfed about and came across another satellite board which seemed to imply that the ViewSat could even be used as a C Band STB! They simply dropped in a freq. that was down in the C-Band range and use a C-Band LNB/VBox setup on a BUD. They also indicated it was possible to plug in any freq. you want via keypad... the site in question was beginning to sound like a "hack" site to me:devil: . Sorry I won't go any further on those guys. But they got me to thinking...
I entered 9750 in the LNB high freq field and kept 9750 in the LNB low field. Instantly, the signal and quality meters on the screen when green and hit the limits. I then did an ordinary "Channel Scan" of the stuff thats manually entered by ViewSat, and pretty much acquired every channel documented on LyngSat for G-10R and a few that weren't.
Sounds pretty good eh? Other than the weird LNB freq entry, the ViewSat was tracking all freqs. EXACTLY! I went off and pulled in IA5 just for the fun of it in the same way. For the time being I have more TV and Radio than I can absorb in the next few months.:hungry:
Well, before you go off thinking "one more happy camper"... NOT QUITE:( Simple truth , is that even with this "break thru", the BlindScan sucks the big one. It could only find 19 channels on one TP before, and it still can't do any better:confused: . It couldn't do anything with the other satellites before and still can't ( though at least the 19 it found were now on the right freq. :rolleyes: ).
Now would any one like to speculate on why ViewSat would insert 9750/10600 automatically on a universal LNB ( just like you'd expect ) and have it so far off the real entry point? And why would BlindScan be so... ummm... well... blind? Almost like its scanning to fast to get a lock... :confused:

Hi...I have the Extreme from Viewsat. but it is split off on the KU leg of my BUD. I had the Blindscan just search for FTA channels on G10R and it came up with over 70 channels!!! (some were duplicates but definately on different channels, and it was definately on G10R since that is also the same spot for G0 on the 4DTV!) I wonder if it is the BUD or???? I only told the antenna setup that it was using a standard LNB and the Extreme did the rest. G10R did take a long scan since it was so loaded! Probably about 10 minutes!

With the Extreme, the Quality meter is always orange and some of the channels on G10R pegged it at 100! When that puppy locks, there is no doubt that it has hooked something!!!

Sunday morning is amazing on G10R...you go from one infomercial to the next!!
Jeff
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This sound similar to my problem in an earlier post. I have an Invacom Quad LNB and VS Plat. When I try to setup for Nimiq2, (my true south) the receiver shows that I'm on another satellite at the top of the Antenna Setup screen. It does this for every satellite I try to point to. Is this an lnb frequency issue or a bug in the software?
Cold Winter
satseeker said:
This sound similar to my problem in an earlier post. I have an Invacom Quad LNB and VS Plat. When I try to setup for Nimiq2, (my true south) the receiver shows that I'm on another satellite at the top of the Antenna Setup screen. It does this for every satellite I try to point to. Is this an lnb frequency issue or a bug in the software?

Rumour has it that you need to reset the STB ( complete power off and thne on after about 20 seconds ) Seems my speculaton on buffer overuns was true:(
Cold Winter
gizzer777 said:
With the Extreme, the Quality meter is always orange and some of the channels on G10R pegged it at 100! When that puppy locks, there is no doubt that it has hooked something!!!

Sunday morning is amazing on G10R...you go from one infomercial to the next!!
Jeff

Well, seems if you hunt for the right LNB freq ( Installation Menu ) , at some point your S and Q meters should go "green" and ( with a BUD will probably ) peg the meters.

I can get a lock, but I think its scanning too fast to properly isolate channels after that.


G-10R is certainly "amazing" that way...:D
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
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It's not even where it folds!
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
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Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


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Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Rest in peace.
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Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
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Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
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They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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I truly hope you are right.
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