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Compulov

Last reply Jan 16, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Considering my options

Hey all,
I'm currently on a Comcast promotion that expires in March and was weighing my options after that. After looking over DirecTV and Dish Network, signs are pointing to E* being my best bet.

Anyhow, the last time I looked at what E* was offering was a few years ago, so obviously things have changed since then. My purpose of this thread is to take what I've been reading here and sort of condense it so that I can get some opinions of whether I'm on the right track of understanding how all this comes together.

My current setup is pretty straightforward... I have an HDTV with a Motorola 6412p3 HDDVR as my primary set, and a second set with a basic Mot digital box on a cheap tv in the bedroom. Until recently, it looks like my best solution would have been single 942 box. That would net me HDDVR, and the second output for the tv in the bedroom. Bonus would be the fact that I could watch stuff I recorded on the DVR in both rooms. Now that it looks like the 942 has been discontinued by E*, and in light of MPEG4 for HD Locals on the way (or here already? -- I'm in the Philly Market), it looks like I would want the vip622 instead. Am I correct in assuming that would net me the same features I like about the 942 (in addition to MPEG4 and ethernet for future use)? Has there been word that the 622 will have an UHF remote available for the second tuner/output? I'll admit to being a bit lax in researching the exact outputs on the 622, but I would hope it has at least component for the primary output (HDMI would be nice too), and that I would have the option of using RF output for the secondary output.

I think that covers the receiver end of things, now I wanted to look at the actual dish side of the equation. Last time I looked at this, I would have needed a Dish 500 for the 110 and 119 orbital locations as well as a Dish 300 for the 61.5 location to get my locals (I was in the NYC market at the time -- Philly's also on 61.5 right?). That would be combined with a DP34 switch, with one run of coax from the switch to a DPP separator, so I can run both tuners in the receiver with that single run. Now that HD channels are here, does it look like I'd need other orbital locations (not all that interested in the Voom package if that makes a difference)? I've seen the Dish 1000, but I'm not sure if 129 carries anything I want (or will it in the future?). If I went with that, I believe it also means I'd need to go with a DPP44 switch since then I'd need to support 4 orbital locations.

One last question is that of lease vs. purchase. For various reasons, I think I'd like to go with leasing the equipment. As much as I like to be on the bleeding edge of technology, I see myself keeping this stuff as long as it works and I can get the programming I want. Putting the base/movie package costs aside for the moment, my additional monthly costs should just be $9.99/mo for the HD package (excluding Voom, which I think I can do without) and $4.98/mo for the DVR fee (I realize these might be going up soon). Am I forgetting anything? If I keep it hooked up to a phone line, then there should be no fee for the additional tuner. As for up front costs... I realize they charge for installation but then refund it usually on the first month's bill. I also believe there's a charge ($299?) for upgrading the receiver from the basic unit. There's also other install charges for additional hardware (the switch, any coax runs needed), but am I forgetting anything else?

I really appreciate any feedback I get, and sincerely apologize for the length of this post. I just wanted to try and get as much detail together at once as possible.

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riffjim4069

Jan 15, 2006

I'm not going to address your Dish Network questions other than to say that E* appears to be the best choice for HD and HD-Lite programming during 2006...especially if you're a new customers. I just wanted to ask if you're in a Verizon FiOS area? If so, you may wish to wait a few more months vice committing yourself to 12-24 months of service.

Compulov

Jan 15, 2006

riffjim4069 said:
I'm not going to address your Dish Network questions other than to say that E* appears to be the best choice for HD and HD-Lite programming during 2006...especially if you're a new customers. I just wanted to ask if you're in a Verizon FiOS area? If so, you may wish to wait a few more months vice committing yourself to 12-24 months of service.

That's a complicated question

I'm currently in an apartment, and while Verizon has announced their intention of getting fios to multi-unit dwellings, I'm fairly certain I won't be seeing it for a few years.

BobaBird

Jan 16, 2006

Your assumptions on the ViP622 match what we seem to know.

now I wanted to look at the actual dish side of the equation. Last time I looked at this, I would have needed a Dish 500 for the 110 and 119 orbital locations as well as a Dish 300 for the 61.5 location to get my locals (I was in the NYC market at the time -- Philly's also on 61.5 right?). That would be combined with a DP34 switch, with one run of coax from the switch to a DPP separator, so I can run both tuners in the receiver with that single run. Now that HD channels are here, does it look like I'd need other orbital locations (not all that interested in the Voom package if that makes a difference)? I've seen the Dish 1000, but I'm not sure if 129 carries anything I want (or will it in the future?). If I went with that, I believe it also means I'd need to go with a DPP44 switch since then I'd need to support 4 orbital locations.

Philadelphia locals come from 110° but, good news for you, several "minor" channels are still on 61.5° (http://ekb.dbstalk.com/19#P). Tell Dish you want to see those channels and they should install the 2nd dish at no extra charge.

They could use a DP34, but for 3 satellites to only 1 or 2 receivers I would expect the DishPro Plus Twin and no external switch. The DPP Separator can not be used with the DP34, it requires a DP Plus switch. The only current options are the internal one in the DPP Twin and the external DPP44.

Since you have 61.5°, you don't need 129° or Dish 1000. The HD programming is the same except for locals plus 61.5° has CBS-NY and the Demo channel. Being in an O&O market you may qualify for CBS. Also, I think you're just a little NE of the line they say can receive it.

The package prices you lay out are only good this month. Come February only the new HDPack will be activated. So either jump on a 942 now that won't get the new channels, or wait for the ViP622 but not be able to opt out of Voom. I would wait, but then I don't even have the current HD Pack.

Compulov

Jan 16, 2006

BobaBird said:
Philadelphia locals come from 110° but, good news for you, several "minor" channels are still on 61.5° (http://ekb.dbstalk.com/19#P). Tell Dish you want to see those channels and they should install the 2nd dish at no extra charge.
They could use a DP34, but for 3 satellites to only 1 or 2 receivers I would expect the DishPro Plus Twin and no external switch. The DPP Separator can not be used with the DP34, it requires a DP Plus switch. The only current options are the internal one in the DPP Twin and the external DPP44.
Since you have 61.5°, you don't need 129° or Dish 1000. The HD programming is the same except for locals plus 61.5° has CBS-NY and the Demo channel. Being in an O&O market you may qualify for CBS. Also, I think you're just a little NE of the line they say can receive it.
The package prices you lay out are only good this month. Come February only the new HDPack will be activated. So either jump on a 942 now that won't get the new channels, or wait for the ViP622 but not be able to opt out of Voom. I would wait, but then I don't even have the current HD Pack.

Thanks for the links to the listing of what channels are on what satellites. I was trying to find that website and couldn't. I wasn't t aware of the DPP Twin LNB... since I don't think I'll be adding a second receiver, let alone more on top of that any time soon, I think that'd be my best bet.
I'm in Mercer County, NJ, and just a stone's throw from the NYC market, though I *hope* Dish can offer me HD Locals by the time I'm ready to switch (still a few months away).
I have no strong feelings one way or another on the Voom pack, but since there was (keyword being "was") the option to not get it, I figured that was an easy way to save an additional $5/mo. I really have to see what Dish has once the dust settles on 2/1. From what I've read thus far, even with increases in service price, the increase in price of the DVR fee, increase in price of the HD Package, and the $15/mo charge from Comcast for keeping my cable modem, it'd still cost me less than Comcast for a comparable package ("comparable" being "all the channels I want" -- more channels means nothing to me if I never watch them).

Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 11 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 2:54 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

dish has new sats dtv does not

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renjy651

Yesterday at 6:37 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
dish has new sats dtv does not

Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 8:31 AM

renjy651 said:
What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 11:52 AM

renjy651 said:
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

While I agree but dish just launched a new sat. That can be used as an asset for Elon. Maybe he will repurpose em for his cell service. And if he wants tv to. God knows why he would but I think he will get a great deal on the contracts in place and equipment!!! I could think of better things to spend my money on. And to be honest Elon has nothing to offer me have blazing fast internet and ill never buy an ev. The veesee box and the super box are illegal.

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tanman

Today at 2:25 PM

For your viewing pleasure...

AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It

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tanman said:
For your viewing pleasure...

AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It

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That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.

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Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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Tom Speer

Yesterday at 1:26 PM

Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 4:26 PM

Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.

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savarese04

Today at 1:58 PM

Foxbat said:
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.

similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.

ncted

Today at 2:31 PM

savarese04 said:
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.

"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.

TRG

13 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.

I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.

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garyreno

Last reply 39 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Updated to H715 on a Hopper 3 from H713

After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.

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Almighty1

39 minutes ago

Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

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Today at 2:32 PM · posted in BooredAtWork.COM

Sony MDR-3R Walkman USB-C Headphones

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Today at 2:32 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Earth’s New Mini Moon: Meet Asteroid 2026 QQ8

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 2:02 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Color blind man sees full colors for first time at age 66

Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

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Bobby

Wednesday at 10:10 PM

dishstaller said:
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 10:12 PM

Bobby said:
That brought tears to my eyes.

Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 10:15 PM

Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share

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dishstaller

Thursday at 11:32 PM

This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ

Juan

Today at 1:56 PM

Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc

telstar_1

Today at 2:02 PM

Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv

b4pjoe

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 1:50 PM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Fox Is Buying Roku in $22 Billion Deal

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harshness

Jun 25, 2026

Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?

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Neutron

Yesterday at 3:04 PM

Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 3:06 PM

harshness said:
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?

That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm

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TRG

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

Neutron said:
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.

Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.

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navychop

Yesterday at 10:36 PM

I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.

Jimbo

Today at 9:55 AM

TRG said:
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.

I have the Roku's, 2 or 3, I just rarely use them ... I prefer the Google/Android Sony set up.

People tell me that the Apps on the TV will end thier usefulness as they age ... They are doing ok for me so far ... I also have the TV take the App Updates whenever possible ... then again, I don't know how often App updates come to it.

So, so far, I'm doing ok, but if they start to get sluggish, I'll eventually change to a Roku ... I don't want to, but eventually ... (Or buy another new TV :eeek

reubenray

Today at 12:50 PM

navychop said:
I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.

As long as my Roku Ultra works I will use it. I use it for all of my streaming apps except for Prime. I read that Prime works best with Android TV's.

navychop

Today at 1:03 PM

Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?

osu1991

Today at 1:11 PM

navychop said:
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?

Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.

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Juan

Today at 1:50 PM

dishstaller said:
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads

The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue

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Google’s Space Data Center: What Can It Actually Power? #shorts

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Last reply Today at 12:47 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:49 AM

Regular$5.459
Premium$5.899
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:59 AM

Billboard along I-10 had reg at $3.81 and diesel at $5.54

Bobby

Today at 11:10 AM

Regular$5.399
Premium$5.899
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

osu1991

Today at 11:49 AM

$3.55

reubenray

Today at 12:47 PM

$3.45 in Jane, MO.

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