Social Feed

navychop
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have a 721, 508 & 301- and a single dish500 and an OTA antenna. I will move to the ViP622 soon and drop the 301. I need to prepare for the installer so that when he gets here all he'll have to do is swap the 500 for a 1000 (or put up a 61.5 and maybe change out an LNB), wire in a switch, plug in the ViP622 & maybe install a separator on the 721. I don't want to be trying to run more coax when the installer is actually here. I need input as to what wiring changes need to be done.

I believe the quad LNB on the dish500 is a legacy, since it does not say Dish Pro on the back. My original installation was in 1/02. I ran all the coax myself and presented the original installer with 4 RG-6 coax cables to attach to the rooftop dish. From the Quick Facts on the dish1000, I gather that my legacy LNB will likely be replaced and a DP44 used.

Current configuration:

Dish500 Quad LNB
-coax #1 to Master Bedroom 508
-coax #2 to basement 301
-coax #3 to living room 721
-coax #4 to diplexer (below) feeding sat/OTA coax to living room 721

OTA antenna w/internal preamp
(working from antenna "down")
to power injector
to 2 way splitter (1 nc, never mind it works that way)
one coax from splitter to Channel Master model 3045 8 way distro amp
-3 outputs no connection
-1 output to basement TV
-1 output to guest room VCR & TV (no sat there)
-1 output to office VCR & HTPC (no sat there)
-1 output to master bedroom TV, ATSC STB, VCR/DVD recorder
-1 output to the diplexer that feeds the sat/OTA coax to the living room 721

In the living room, another diplexer splits out the OTA and satellite signals. The OTA output there feeds the HDTV and a VCR.

I intend to discard the 301 (turn in for $299 deal? $25?), move the 508 to the basement and move the 721 to the master bedroom. That leaves the 2 coax in the living room to feed the ViP622. The 721 would only have one sat coax feeding it.

Questions:
-Would a separator work to feed the 721 or should I run another sat coax to the MBR?
-If I run the extra sat coax to the 721, that would total 5 sat output coax- drop 1 to the ViP622 and use a separator there?
-Use a separator on the ViP622 AND the 721?
-May I safely assume that the diplexer will continue to work as is, or could there be a problem with DishPro/DishProPlus?

I'll run the ViP622 in single mode until the 721 and 508 are useless. I figure I've got another 2 or 3 years of use out of them. Then I'll probably run a "stereo agile" coax to the MBR, and do the cat5 "RCA cable" trick to the basement (or use a transmitter connected to the TV2 outputs). Or by that time there may be a "whole house" DVR option available. Or get a ViP211 or such. No need to wire for that now.

Your assistance is appreciated.
7 Replies · 1884 views
navychop
Thank you for your help- but one clarification, please. If I run another coax to the MBR where the 721 will be, that will give me 5 coax to feed: 2 to 721, 2 to ViP622, 1 to 508. The DP44 supports only 4? Hang another switch off the DP44 to support 5?

There seem to be limitations on using the DP34, per the Quick Facts and other sources. Would Dish try to get a DP34 used instead of a DP44?

I was under the impression that there were certain configurations & equipment that the separator/721 was not compatible with. I gather I was mistaken.

What if a 61.5 dish is added in place of the dish1000? It would seem that would complicate the switching. Would that force the use of a separator on both the 721 and the ViP622, or cascaded switches?

Do cascaded switches respond slower?
volkodav
if tech uses DPP 44sw. then you have 508 line #1 721 line #2 &3 and 622 line #4 with dp separator. if he uses Dp 34sw then he can add dp 34sw right at the 34 sw where it says out to another sw.
yaz96
721 with DP Separator

You CAN use a DP Separator with a 721.

I have a DPP44 switch, with line 1 to 721 with DP Separator, line 2 to 942 with DP Separator, line 3 to DishPlayer, and line 4 to 311.
navychop
So I can expect a changeout of my DISH500 with a quad legacy LNB, replaced by a DISH1000 with DPP LNBs and (probably) a DPP44 switch. Two of the lines will go to the ViP622, as the lines are already installed to that location. One of these lines will share an OTA signal via diplexers. Another line from the switch will go to the 508, and the remaining one to the 721 using a separator. Basically, I'm ready- there are no wiring changes I need make.

Now it's a matter of waiting until my installer gets a shipment, whenever that may be.

Thanks to all who helped out me and the others reading this thread.
SimpleSimon
Navychop: There WAS a problem with the 721/DPP-Twin/DPP Separator, but it's fixed.

BIG KUDOS TO YOU FOR YOUR OPENING POST!

If only EVERYONE posted like that our "jobs" would be a LOT easier!
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
461 Replies · 16100 views
Bruce
tanman
For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
dishstaller
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
comfortably_numb
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:

They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.
fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
NYDutch
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
68775 Replies · 2687593 views
  • Like
Reactions: c-spand
long_time_Dish
All Night Long - Joe Walsh
M
Night Fever - Bee Gees
  • Like
Reactions: RaiderPower
long_time_Dish
Night By Night - Steely Dan
RaiderPower
Day By Day - Godspell
  • Like
Reactions: long_time_Dish
long_time_Dish
Derk Day - Steve Walsh
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
18 Replies · 390 views
harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
  • Like
Reactions: navychop
navychop
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
  • Like
Reactions: navychop
Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
HipKat
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
  • Like
Reactions: Foxbat
dishstaller
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.
osu1991
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
185 Replies · 3478 views
  • Haha
Reactions: Mike0616
R
A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Y
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
rvvaquero
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
T
A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

23 Replies · 957 views
  • Like
Reactions: Howard Simmons
Tom Speer
Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
  • Like
Reactions: MikeD-C05
Foxbat
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
  • Sad
  • Like
Reactions: MikeD-C05 and Bobby
S
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
  • Like
Reactions: Foxbat
ncted
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
TRG
TRG
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
  • Like
Reactions: Bobby and Foxbat
G
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
1 Replies · 91 views
Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
6 Replies · 166 views
Bobby
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.
  • Like
Reactions: NYDutch
dishstaller
That brought tears to my eyes.
Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
  • Like
Reactions: NYDutch and Bobby
dishstaller
Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
  • Like
Reactions: NYDutch and Bobby
dishstaller
This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
Juan
Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc
T
Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv