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kokomogator

Last reply Mar 2, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

921 Owners Unite

Well, now that Dish has bilked us out of the money we paid for this unit, now they are no longer going to service it. We have lost the program guide (except for 2 days worth) and it will not be fixed until June (if then). Also, for the past few days, SD is squeezed and rebooting does not help (anyone have a solution?). This only adds insult to injury with the constant problems the 921 has had; stuck aspect ratio's, timers not firing or firing on the wrong day; etc., etc., etc.

But wait.....we have an option......trade it in in April for $99 for the 622 and pay more for the programming, AND we get to pay a lease fee. Oh wait...one more option, we can not trade it in, pay $299 and pay a monthly access fee and also more for programming. Oh, or we could just tell them to shove it and go somewhere else. Dish is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good to us losers.

Perhaps we could start a email petition drive or anything instead of taking it up the a**! Any ideas anyone?

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waltinvt

Mar 2, 2006

visiter555 said:
I am actually surprised that no one has started a Class Action suit against E* regarding this, especially when after announcing the MPEG4 is years away in November Charlie Chat, selling 811s, 921 & 942 units AFTER the January Charlie Chat...knowing they could not recieve the new HD channels.

If I owned any HD unit that had been bought in the Nov 2005 to current day I would be talking to a law firm about this issue. Class Action suits are the only way to hit the big boys where it counts...and all benefit. Guaranteed you would be offered more than $25 for a 811 or 921!!!!

Yea, I remember the 5 PPV coupons I got on the Dishplayer 7200 CLS. I'm not disputing that a CLS is warrented. Dish deserves it in many respects but you can't go into it expecting much back in return other than the satisfaction of hurting Dish in the pocketbook a little (for which they'll just raise their rates) and make some lawyers rich.

rad

Mar 2, 2006

Did anyone ever sue E* over the 921 and Dishwire issue??? I know there was a lot of talk about doing it when E* pulled the plug on that advertised feature.

kokomogator

Mar 2, 2006

waltinvt said:
Yea, I remember the 5 PPV coupons I got on the Dishplayer 7200 CLS. I'm not disputing that a CLS is warrented. Dish deserves it in many respects but you can't go into it expecting much back in return other than the satisfaction of hurting Dish in the pocketbook a little (for which they'll just raise their rates) and make some lawyers rich.

I would at least feel a little vindicated other than being so damn frustrated!!!

I HATE this receiver and I have not even come close to recouping the cost of buying it......all I asked was for a lease option when I bought in Sept. but hell no, couldn't do that to help a customer.

Anyone having an issue with the SD aspect ratio? Only way to watch is stretched unless I want to see everything squished.....help before I drive to Colorado and deliver to Charlie personally (and I mean REALLY personally)

Last Ride

Mar 2, 2006

Okay, 921 owner here, and I do feel your pain. He should unite and express our disgust with the way they treat purchasers of their "flagship" unit. It gets quite tiresome to read the chronic problems the 921 has/had on these boards only to be told by Dish, "It's not that bad," or, "This is an isolated incident."

Isolated? That might be when you compare the problems those of us duped into buying a 921 to the rest of Dish's customers. The fact is, not many people are willing to shell out that kind of coin just to watch tv. I paid $525 a little less than a year ago, so I can't imagine the frustration those of you that bought the 921 at $999 feel! However, since buying my unit, I am on my third receiver. The first crapped out at around six months. The second lasted three days.

I finally asked about a refund to which they replied, "We will keep sending you units and honor the warranty." So then I asked, "So you keep replacing units until my warranty is up, and then what? This product has never worked as advertised, and you are refusing to support it." Their response was, "I am sure the new unit will work."

I really hate when they insult your intelligence saying, "Well is it plugged in? Are you sure it's connected properly?" The solutions of "Advanced Tech Support" usually end in, "Go ahead and reboot," or, "That's a known issue and we're working on it." As I have said on this forum and to Dish directly, with the birth of the 622 I think we are seeing the death of what up until now has been terrible support for the 921. But terrible support beats none at all.

To their credit, my 921 has performed adequately for the past month or so (knock on wood). Yes, the channel guide is frustrating, but I haven't had to reboot in weeks. It is pretty sad though when I am excited it hasn't crapped out in a couple weeks. My 510 that is running in the second room used to be our main receiver, and it has plugged along flawlessly for three years. That one was a freebie!

Bottom line, I would be interested in anything you guys can come up with. I only wish I had found this website sooner. If only Verizon FiOS was available here....

Bryan

SimpleSimon

Mar 2, 2006

rad said:
Did anyone ever sue E* over the 921 and Dishwire issue??? I know there was a lot of talk about doing it when E* pulled the plug on that advertised feature.

Unfortunately, no.

Last Ride said:
I haven't had to reboot in weeks.

That can only be because the nightly auto-reboots are working.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 9:50 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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Bruce

Thursday at 9:59 AM

SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

www.lightreading.com

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tanman

Yesterday at 2:25 PM

For your viewing pleasure...

AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It

Semafor’s Rohan Goswami said that AT&T and T-Mobile have discussed removing Boost Mobile from their networks if SpaceX acquires the EchoStar unit, creating a potential obstacle to Elon Musk’s push to become a major U.S. wireless carrier.

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 3:31 PM

tanman said:
For your viewing pleasure...

AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It

Semafor’s Rohan Goswami said that AT&T and T-Mobile have discussed removing Boost Mobile from their networks if SpaceX acquires the EchoStar unit, creating a potential obstacle to Elon Musk’s push to become a major U.S. wireless carrier.

finance.yahoo.com

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 6:17 PM

comfortably_numb said:
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.

That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 6:19 PM

dishstaller said:
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers

They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.

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fmj77

Yesterday at 8:51 PM

Bruce said:
SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

www.lightreading.com

Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.

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NYDutch

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.

Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Yesterday at 8:52 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Yesterday at 3:34 PM

All Night Long - Joe Walsh

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Night Fever - Bee Gees

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Night By Night - Steely Dan

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Day By Day - Godspell

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Derk Day - Steve Walsh

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b4pjoe

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Yesterday at 7:03 PM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Fox Is Buying Roku in $22 Billion Deal

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harshness

Jun 25, 2026

Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?

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dishstaller

Friday at 3:06 PM

harshness said:
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?

That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm

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navychop

Yesterday at 1:03 PM

Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?

osu1991

Yesterday at 1:11 PM

navychop said:
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?

Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.

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Juan

Yesterday at 1:50 PM

dishstaller said:
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads

The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue

HipKat

Yesterday at 5:09 PM

Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 6:16 PM

Juan said:
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue

Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.

osu1991

Yesterday at 7:03 PM

HipKat said:
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?

There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/threads/roku-the-company-for-sale.422119/

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Yesterday at 5:42 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Musk Seeking to Expand SpaceX Into a Cellular Provider

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Direct YouTube Link - Musk Seeking to Expand SpaceX Into a Cellular Provider
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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Yesterday at 3:45 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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reubenray

Oct 18, 2026

A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.

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osu1991

Monday at 9:15 AM

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Yespage

Monday at 10:31 AM

Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.

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rvvaquero

Monday at 11:48 AM

Yespage said:
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.

I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.

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osu1991

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 3:45 PM

reubenray said:
A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.

Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 3:29 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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Tom Speer

Friday at 1:26 PM

Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.

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Foxbat

Friday at 4:26 PM

Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.

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savarese04

Yesterday at 1:58 PM

Foxbat said:
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.

similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.

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ncted

Yesterday at 2:31 PM

savarese04 said:
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.

"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.

TRG

Yesterday at 3:29 PM

Foxbat said:
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.

I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.

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garyreno

Last reply Yesterday at 3:03 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Updated to H715 on a Hopper 3 from H713

After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 3:03 PM

Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

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Booredatwork.com

Yesterday at 2:32 PM · posted in BooredAtWork.COM

Sony MDR-3R Walkman USB-C Headphones

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Yesterday at 2:32 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Earth’s New Mini Moon: Meet Asteroid 2026 QQ8

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6kVDC3xcUVE

Direct YouTube Link - Earth's New Mini Moon: Meet Asteroid 2026 QQ8
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 2:02 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Color blind man sees full colors for first time at age 66

Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

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Bobby

Wednesday at 10:10 PM

dishstaller said:
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 10:12 PM

Bobby said:
That brought tears to my eyes.

Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 10:15 PM

Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share

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dishstaller

Thursday at 11:32 PM

This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ

Juan

Yesterday at 1:56 PM

Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc

telstar_1

Yesterday at 2:02 PM

Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv

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