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Still having difficulty getting a READABLE signal. I think I got AMC 3? at ~136 deg georaphic [lat 47.8N lon 122.2 W], and the skew acts normally, showing I do have a linearly polarized signal. Peaked signal, could not get any quality, scanned all transponders on all visible satellites (LO 10600/22 kHz ON,) nothing detected.
The Tech SAT LNBf seems to be working, but the dish (parabola surface) was noticeably, but not severely bent in shipping several years ago. The amount it was bent seems to be significant as demonstrated by the weak signals I can see (~ 1-3 dB above the noise floor)
Any ideas to get it to the right shape? My wife will mutiny if I order a new 36" dish!
Let's see... 12 GHz radio waves are EM radiation, same as light is. Therefore the same optical laws apply.
Lambda at 12 GHz is ~25mm. Usual shape and surface quality on telescope (parabolic) mirrors--a dish is the same but at RF wavelength-- is lambda/10 for a good image, lambda/4 for a poor image.
So, a non-offset (I think this also applies to an offset) dish needs to match the pareabolic shape and surface finish combined to at least 6 mm, and better 2.5 mm for good signal and pattern.
Lambda/4 gives a 90 deg phase shift, if you get towards 180 deg, you get destructive interference which reduces signal strength.
The Tech SAT LNBf seems to be working, but the dish (parabola surface) was noticeably, but not severely bent in shipping several years ago. The amount it was bent seems to be significant as demonstrated by the weak signals I can see (~ 1-3 dB above the noise floor)
Any ideas to get it to the right shape? My wife will mutiny if I order a new 36" dish!
Let's see... 12 GHz radio waves are EM radiation, same as light is. Therefore the same optical laws apply.
Lambda at 12 GHz is ~25mm. Usual shape and surface quality on telescope (parabolic) mirrors--a dish is the same but at RF wavelength-- is lambda/10 for a good image, lambda/4 for a poor image.
So, a non-offset (I think this also applies to an offset) dish needs to match the pareabolic shape and surface finish combined to at least 6 mm, and better 2.5 mm for good signal and pattern.
Lambda/4 gives a 90 deg phase shift, if you get towards 180 deg, you get destructive interference which reduces signal strength.
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Gotcha!
I took the dish section off the mount, and instead of stringing it, I put it on the (pretty flat) garage floor for measuring. I then gently bent it where the rim wasn't flat
Repeat until well done...
Reinstalled the dish, tightening the bolts just enough to stably secure te dish to its mount.
BINGO! Finding FTA satellites is almost as easy as the DSS birds now.
Currently on IA5 to keep the inlaws happy until I get the motor installed.
Later, once its all working, I'll gently tweak the dish to grab as much signal as possible. Probably I'll do that on SatMex 5, which is a fringe bird for me with about 39-41 dBw EIRP in my location (extrapolated map)
NO WONDER I was chasing my tail last weekend!
I took the dish section off the mount, and instead of stringing it, I put it on the (pretty flat) garage floor for measuring. I then gently bent it where the rim wasn't flat
Repeat until well done...
Reinstalled the dish, tightening the bolts just enough to stably secure te dish to its mount.
BINGO! Finding FTA satellites is almost as easy as the DSS birds now.
Currently on IA5 to keep the inlaws happy until I get the motor installed.
Later, once its all working, I'll gently tweak the dish to grab as much signal as possible. Probably I'll do that on SatMex 5, which is a fringe bird for me with about 39-41 dBw EIRP in my location (extrapolated map)
NO WONDER I was chasing my tail last weekend!
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I've received that sat using a 90cm/36in dish up here at 51.7N 114.1W so my EIRP estimates might be similar (or worse) than yours. I can't tell you what my quality readings are as I'm at work and it's not a satellite I often motor to but maybe I'll check tonight.
dish_in_the_sky said:Later, once its all working, I'll gently tweak the dish to grab as much signal as possible. Probably I'll do that on SatMex 5, which is a fringe bird for me with about 39-41 dBw EIRP in my location (extrapolated map)
NO WONDER I was chasing my tail last weekend!
I've received that sat using a 90cm/36in dish up here at 51.7N 114.1W so my EIRP estimates might be similar (or worse) than yours. I can't tell you what my quality readings are as I'm at work and it's not a satellite I often motor to but maybe I'll check tonight.
dish_in_the_sky said:I took the dish section off the mount, and instead of stringing it, I put it on the (pretty flat) garage floor for measuring. I then gently bent it where the rim wasn't flat
Repeat until well done...
Reinstalled the dish, tightening the bolts just enough to stably secure te dish to its mount.
BINGO! Finding FTA satellites is almost as easy as the DSS birds now.
Currently on IA5 to keep the inlaws happy until I get the motor installed.
Later, once its all working, I'll gently tweak the dish to grab as much signal as possible. Probably I'll do that on SatMex 5, which is a fringe bird for me with about 39-41 dBw EIRP in my location (extrapolated map)
NO WONDER I was chasing my tail last weekend!
Glad thats its sorted out now!
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.
Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.
I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.
You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product onlyUnless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.
I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.
You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I remember this in the news too...
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$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone
A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.I remember this in the news too...
$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone
A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Direct YouTube Link - Glenn's Pick of the Week: The Vevor Automatic Tape Dispenser
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I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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Welcome back, as you can see we branched off into a bunch of things since Satellite is what it is now, so lots to talk about here.