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GMFreak8
GMFreak8
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Looking to switch from Cable

I'm looking to possibly switch to Dish, mainly because they offer the most HD programming of any provider I can get. The only thing I'm going to miss by switching is On Demand channels such as HBO on Demand. I'm looking for the cheapest, easiest, and best way to switch. I need 1 HD DVR, and 4 SD receivers (If 5 receivers in total isn't possible, I can deal with 4 I suppose. Doesn't the HD DVR allow for 2 room individual viewing anyway?). I want a setup capable of receiving all the HD Channels including the VOOM channels, and the local channels. What are my options, and what will this cost me?

One thing I probably should mention, I have high speed cable internet and AT&T Callvantage. I have no POTS line. Will all the Dish receivers work with VOIP? I know my standalone TiVo doesn't.

Thanks guys.
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GMFreak8
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I'm not worried much about the boxes. I've had a DVR from Time Warner since they first came out with them (before that a standalone Series 1 TiVo that I still use), and honestly they shouldn't have even called them a DVR until maybe last year. The reliability was horrible, but that's been fixed. Now they just need to work on adding features and making the interface easier to live with. I switched mainly because of the two tuner capability, and HD capability of the TW DVR, but when I gave up TiVo it felt like I went from Mac OS X to DOS.

My hangups with Dish right now include the upfront cost (I had none with Cable, even with a HD DVR), the lack of interactive features (such as On Demand), the cost of the boxes (I can still choose rather or not I want a box on all my TVs with cable), and the overall cost of the programming. Right now I get all the movie channels, all the HD channels, all the regular channels, the HD DVR, a SD box, and all the Premium On Demand channels for right around $105. Now unless I'm missing something, Dish can't touch that price, and I really can't justify the upfront cost, plus the increase of the monthly cost, just for 17 more HD Channels, especially when Time Warner is supposedly adding more HD channels including locals in my area soon. I thought maybe I could get more for less with Dish when I made this post, but after reading things here, and researching, it doesn't look like it'll happen.

As far as reliability, I've had two outages with Time Warner that I can remember. One involved the Ice Storm in 1998 when I was without power and cable for a month, and the other was just recently when some drunk took telephone pole out. It's been rock solid. More than I can say for my DirecTV dish at my camp (which to be fair was a bad installation that the installer refused to fix), which went out if you sneezed. I know that with a proper installation a Dish can be just as reliable, so that's not a problem really.

Anyway, thanks for the information, I may still switch in the future.
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Zookster
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I find it a little ironic myself with Dish's "Feed the pig" ad campaign, that I can also get a better deal for HD through cable... and that's even before "bundling" with phone and internet discounts kick in. My cable co., Cox, has as good if not better HD PQ than my 811 had, is more reliable, has excellent customer service, and doesn't require that I subscribe to every single SD channel to get all the HD channels. Granted Dish has more HD channels, but I think they really need to rethink their pricing structures before IPTV launches nationally and cable works out their bandwidth issues that prevent them from adding more HD channels.
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GMfreak I would stay with your current provider then seeing as you have had such reliable service and they are going to be adding more hd content shortly. Yes dish does have more hd content but many of the voom channels are in short nothing more than filler designed to pull you in but once your there your left wondering where the parties at.

What would be nice is to have mainstream stuff in hd, channels that people watch on a daily basis and not fluff stuff.
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Van said:
GMfreak I would stay with your current provider then seeing as you have had such reliable service and they are going to be adding more hd content shortly. Yes dish does have more hd content but many of the voom channels are in short nothing more than filler designed to pull you in but once your there your left wondering where the parties at.

What would be nice is to have mainstream stuff in hd, channels that people watch on a daily basis and not fluff stuff.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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I've been a suscriber to Dish for about 6 years now and also have Time Warner Cable. Why do I have both - that's a long story - but yes, my monthly costs are astronomical having both. I have HD with Time Warner and I am generally pleased with it. I've thought about moving my HD package to the one from Dish, but one thing that has always prevented me from doing it is that I seem to get too many dropouts from poor weather with Dish. I don't hear other people with this issue, and my signal levels are almost maxed, but I can usually tell a storm is coming when the picture starts sparkling and then is just lost. Perhaps it's my setup, but it's just odd - sometimes the worst storms won't affect my Dish signal in the slightest, then a passing shower will knock out the signal. On comparison, my cable rarely goes out but the non digital channels don't look as good as their counterparts on Dish. It's such a catch-22 but I think that is one of the principal reasons I never did move my HD to Dish and have kept it with Time Warner.
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Green Dot on WJ4?

Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.
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The little green dot inside a small black field in the upper right-hand corner of your screen is an Android privacy indicator confirming that the voice remote's microphone is actively listening. Because the Joey 4 runs on an Android
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The green dot on Android TV is supposed to show as long as an app or background service is actively using the microphone or camera. [1, 2]

What Normal Behavior Looks Like
    • When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
    • When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:
    • An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
    • A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

How to Fix or Check It
    • Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
    • Check app permissions: Go to your TV's Settings > Privacy or Device Preferences > Microphone to see which apps have access, and revoke permission for any suspicious or unnecessary apps. [1, 2]
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Data Centers Faced a 2026 Ballot Measure Tsunami #shorts

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Bobby
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Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Wisconsin at Iowa, Saturday 10-31, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona St at BYU, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Alabama at LSU, Saturday 11-7, 12:30PM PST, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, UCLA at Minnesota, Saturday 11-7, 9AM PST, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Iowa at Northwestern, Saturday 11-7, 4:30PM PST, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Texas at LSU, Saturday 11-14, 4:30PM PST, Channel 148-03.
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Almost literally EVERYONE is wrong about the iPhone Duo

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OpenSSH's Wild *sshole Bug Explained!

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Where Former NASA Director Jim Green Would Like to Explore More Of

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TheForce
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Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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TheForce
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Report on my iphone 18 PM
Working well with about 3-4 days battery life. New BT and Wifi range is much better than the 15 I had. It doesn't seem any faster but probably is. The Camera shooting video has amazing image stabilization.
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix. This happens about once a week since buying it.
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Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix.
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I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.
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I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.
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My wife hasn't complained about her 17Pro yet.
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Foxbat
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To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.
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Foxbat said:
To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.
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The most annoying for me is when I'm trying to teach my robot to edit the mowing map and the touch screen quits and I have to reboot and start all over. As long as I reboot the phone the repeat will usually complete the map and it is saved.
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
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The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
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With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
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Jimbo said:
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
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Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
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Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
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Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
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Jimbo said:
Of course ... but they Could.
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Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

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Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
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It was early. Sure.
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College Football Playoff, ESPN agree to 5-year, $1.7 billion deal expanding field to 24 teams starting in 2027

The CFP field will have 12 teams this year, before doubling in 2027.
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ESPN and the College Football Playoff (CFP) have agreed to a 5-year deal to expand the playoff from 12 to 24 teams.

The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment,(a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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Why the Tesla Cybertruck Was Killed Off

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