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Last reply Jul 7, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

61.5

If I put a dish at 61.5 and dish adds new hd channels will they be there.

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Bscolvin

Jul 3, 2006

I live in Pittsburgh they don't have my locals yet. I have a dish 1000 and I am having alot
of problems with my singal on 110 and 129. So the installer is going to put up a second dish.

garys

Jul 3, 2006

If you are having problems with 110 and 129 could be skew is off. Not sure where Pitt's HD locals are going, installer may try getting 129 on seperate dish as well, if 61.5 turns out to not be in your line of site. No word on where next HD will be available at yet.

MikeD-C05

Jul 3, 2006

All hd channels are on both 61.5 and 129 and they will be unless Dish comes up with some new scheme. IF you are having problems with the 129 sat then I recommend the 61.5 sat. The only problem would be if you needed hd locals and they were on 129. I am using the 61.5 sat now and I no longer suffer from any pixelation or breakups or switch check pops since I did. Hd locals for Houston are on the 110 sat and the sd are on the 119, so I am good.

gdarwin

Jul 3, 2006

MikeD-C05 said:
All hd channels are on both 61.5 and 129 and they will be unless Dish comes up with some new scheme. IF you are having problems with the 129 sat then I recommend the 61.5 sat. The only problem would be if you needed hd locals and they were on 129. I am using the 61.5 sat now and I no longer suffer from any pixelation or breakups or switch check pops since I did. Hd locals for Houston are on the 110 sat and the sd are on the 119, so I am good.

Yea... I disconnected 129 and am sticking with 61.5 until I'm forced to.

Smith P.

Jul 7, 2006

If someone want to see full load of 61.5W :

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 9435, 4130, 4131,    0, STZHD AC-3(1) H.264  HD 	

tpn2:TID=102, 61.5W 12.239 GHz LHCP 21500 2/3 8PSK , DVB-S
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  655, 6690, 6691,    0, WOWTV        MPEG-2 . 	
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tpn10:TID=110, 61.5W 12.355 GHz LHCP 20000 5/6 QPSK, DVB-S
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  578, 4386, 4387,    0, BRDGS        MPEG-2 . 	
  580, 6690, 6691,    0, INFO         MPEG-2 FTA 	
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  592, 4386, 4387,    0, RTVI         MPEG-2 . 	
  593, 4642, 4643,    0, RTVI+        MPEG-2 . 	
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  605, 6178, 6179,    0, ANTEN        MPEG-2 . 	
  779, 5410, 5411,    0, NEWTV        MPEG-2 . 	
  917, 6434, 6435,    0, BSN          MPEG-2  	

tpn15:TID=115, 61.5W 12.428 GHz RHCP 20000 5/6 QPSK, DVB-S
  582, 4130, 4131,    0, CCTV4        MPEG-2 . 	
  601, 4386, 4387,    0, RAI          MPEG-2 . 	
  644, 4642, 4643,    0, LBC          MPEG-2 . 	
  645, 4898, 4899,    0, ALJAZ        MPEG-2 . 	
  653, 5154, 5155,    0, ARANG        MPEG-2 . 	
  670, 5410, 5411,    0, MBC          MPEG-2 . 	
  910,    0, 4096,    0, RAIRD        MPEG-2  	

tpn16:TID=116, 61.5W 12.443 GHz LHCP 20000 5/6 QPSK, DVB-S
 7770, 4130, 4131,    0, WLNE         MPEG-2 . 	
 7771, 4386, 4387,    0, WPRI         MPEG-2 . 	
 7772, 4642, 4643,    0, WJAR         MPEG-2 . 	
 7773, 4898, 4899,    0, WNAC         MPEG-2 . 	
 7775, 5154, 5155,    0, WLWC         MPEG-2 . 	
 7776, 5410, 5411,    0, WSBE         MPEG-2 . 	

tpn17:TID=117, 61.5W 12.457 GHz RHCP 21500 2/3 8PSK , DVB-S
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 9483, 4386, 4387,    0, CBSHD AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD 	
 9936, 4130, 4131,    0, WABC  AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD 	
 9937, 4386, 4387,    0, WCBS  AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD 	
 9938, 4642, 4643,    0, WNBC  AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD 	

tpn18:TID=118, 61.5W 12.472 GHz LHCP 20000 5/6 QPSK, DVB-S
  583,    0, 4097,    0, ASIFM        MPEG-2  	
  596, 4130, 4131,    0, GLOBO        MPEG-2 . 	
  597, 5666, 5667,    0, RCORD        MPEG-2 . 	
  598, 5922, 5923,    0, RBTI         MPEG-2 . 	
  610, 5154, 5155,    0, SUNTV        MPEG-2 . 	
  612, 6690, 6691,    0, SETMX        MPEG-2 . 	
  613, 4386, 4387,    0, TVASA        MPEG-2 . 	
  614, 4642, 4643,    0, SET          MPEG-2 . 	
  640, 4898, 4899, 4900, TVJPN        MPEG-2 . 	
  652, 6434, 6435,    0, KBS          MPEG-2 . 	
  767, 5410, 5411,    0, ABUDA        MPEG-2 . 	
  783, 6178, 6179,    0, NORST        MPEG-2 . 	

tpn19:TID=119, 61.5W 12.486 GHz RHCP 21500 2/3 8PSK , DVB-S
 6303, 4130, 4131,    0, WNYW  AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD,ViP 	
 9427, 4386, 4387,    0, UNIHD AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD,ViP 	
 9939, 4130, 4131,    0, WNYW  AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD 	

tpn20:TID=120, 61.5W 12.501 GHz LHCP 21500 2/3 8PSK , DVB-S
 9443, 4386, 4387,    0, HDTV3 AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD 	

tpn21:TID=121, 61.5W 12.516 GHz RHCP 21500 2/3 8PSK , DVB-S
 6318, 4130, 4131,    0, WCVB  AC-3(1) H.264  HD 	
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tpn22:TID=122, 61.5W 12.530 GHz LHCP 21500 2/3 8PSK , DVB-S
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 9429, 4130, 4131,    0, NTGHD AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD,ViP 	
 9461, 4386, 4387,    0, HGHD  AC-3(1) MPEG-2 HD,ViP 	

tpn25:TID=125, 61.5W 12.574 GHz RHCP 20000 3/4 QPSK, DVB-S
 9701, 5922, 5923,    0, ANGEL        MPEG-2 . 	
 9705, 4898, 4899,    0, TVU          MPEG-2 . 	
 9707, 5154, 5155,    0, GUARD        MPEG-2 . 	
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 9716, 4130, 4131,    0, LBN          MPEG-2 . 	
 9717, 4642, 4643,    0, CLAND        MPEG-2 . 	
 9720, 5670, 5671,    0, H&GTV        MPEG-2 . 	
 9732, 6434, 6435,    0, WRSHP        MPEG-2 . 	
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tpn27:TID=127, 61.5W 12.603 GHz RHCP 20000 3/4 QPSK, DVB-S
  598, 4386, 4387,    0, RBTI         MPEG-2 . 	

tpn29:TID=129, 61.5W 12.632 GHz RHCP 20000 3/4 QPSK, DVB-S
  607, 4642, 4643,    0, PLSAT        MPEG-2 . 	
  609, 5410, 5411,    0, TVN24        MPEG-2 . 	
  615, 4386, 4387,    0, RTPI         MPEG-2 . 	
  620, 6434, 6435,    0, GEOTV        MPEG-2 . 	
  778, 4130, 4131,    0, NBN          MPEG-2 . 	

tpn30:TID=130, 61.5W 12.647 GHz LHCP 21500 2/3 8PSK , DVB-S
	null packets 

tpn31:TID=131, 61.5W 12.661 GHz RHCP 20000 5/6 QPSK, DVB-S
  579, 4386, 4387,    0, INTER        MPEG-2 . 	
  650, 5410, 5411,    0, SPT          MPEG-2 . 	
  651, 6434, 6435,    0, ARYOW        MPEG-2 . 	
  657, 5666, 5667,    0, ONGME        MPEG-2 . 	
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  663, 5922, 5923,    0, MUSIK        MPEG-2 . 	
  672, 4642, 4643,    0, DANDA        MPEG-2 . 	
  673, 5154, 5155,    0, MZIKA        MPEG-2 . 	

tpn32:TID=132, 61.5W 12.676 GHz LHCP 20000 3/4 QPSK, DVB-S
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Report on my iphone 18 PM
Working well with about 3-4 days battery life. New BT and Wifi range is much better than the 15 I had. It doesn't seem any faster but probably is. The Camera shooting video has amazing image stabilization.
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix. This happens about once a week since buying it.

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Foxbat

Today at 9:54 AM

TheForce said:
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix.

I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.

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TheForce

Today at 12:53 PM

Foxbat said:
I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.

My wife hasn't complained about her 17Pro yet.

navychop

Today at 1:01 PM

Shhhh!

Foxbat

Today at 1:15 PM

To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.

TheForce

Today at 2:25 PM

Foxbat said:
To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.

The most annoying for me is when I'm trying to teach my robot to edit the mowing map and the touch screen quits and I have to reboot and start all over. As long as I reboot the phone the repeat will usually complete the map and it is saved.

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Bruce

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Last reply Today at 2:14 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

thehill.com

That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Today at 5:36 AM

According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

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Jimbo

Today at 8:00 AM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

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Bruce

Today at 8:17 AM

Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

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AZ.

Today at 8:25 AM

Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

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Bruce

Today at 11:08 AM

AZ. said:
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

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Bobby

Today at 11:20 AM

Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

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AZ.

Today at 1:09 PM

Bobby said:
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

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TRG

Today at 2:01 PM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish

Bruce

Today at 2:14 PM

AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

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Ramy

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Last reply Today at 2:00 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Ronnie-

Yesterday at 3:11 PM

The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 3:23 PM

Ronnie- said:
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue

)

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 3:28 PM

Jimbo said:
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... )

Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 3:58 PM

Ronnie- said:
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 4:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Of course ... but they Could.

Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Jimbo said:
Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

It was early. Sure.

osu1991

Today at 9:12 AM

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Ronnie-

Today at 12:34 PM

College Football Playoff, ESPN agree to 5-year, $1.7 billion deal expanding field to 24 teams starting in 2027

The CFP field will have 12 teams this year, before doubling in 2027.

sports.yahoo.com

ESPN and the College Football Playoff (CFP) have agreed to a 5-year deal to expand the playoff from 12 to 24 teams.

The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.

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cp2k

Today at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Jimbo

Today at 2:00 PM

cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment,(a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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