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MichaelC

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Last reply Jul 10, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Off the air signal with 622 not as good

I've had my 622 for a couple weeks now. I find the off the air HD tuner not quite as good as my Zenith HD-Sat520 or my old Voom receiver. Both receivers will lock on one distant station, where as the 622 just breaks up. I'm still glad I switched from Direct TV, but the grass is not all green here.

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rickaren

Jul 9, 2006

drummerguy said:
I just got my 622 (replacing a 942), and I can now pull in the WB affiliate here in Indianapolis, whereas the 942 couldn't. So I'm thinking that the 622 is better at OTA (at least for right now

WTTV just went to full power about a week ago! Living up here in Noblesville I could however receive it on 29-1, before this major upgrade for them.

Have no issues with the OTA turner with DISH, but Directv HR-10-250 DVR will not pick-up WTTV at same location. Not always the antenna or signal strength, but the receiver.

waltinvt

Jul 10, 2006

BigTVSteve said:
Waltinv,

Good info/detail. As you state, 60s to 80s signal quality is a big difference between the 811 and 622 receivers on the closer station at your location. However, the only real way to compare the 811 and 622 receiver performance at your location is to temporarily swap their physical locations so you can eliminate house wiring and coupler/switch differences that are feeding the two receivers. If the low signal quality situation follows over to the 622's new temporary location, then I would request a new 622 from Dish Network.

I have two 811s at another house which replaced two VOOM receivers there about a year ago. The 811s had about the same sensitivity as the VOOM receivers. The 811s did seem a little better on multipath rejection (selectivity) than the VOOM receivers. At that location, all OTA stations were pretty close (less than 25 miles) to my Wineguard yagi antenna, but mountains and high hills obscured any direct line of sight to the transmitter locations.

When I replaced another VOOM OTA receiver last week with a new 622 DVR, the 622 solidly locks two OTA channels that were previously very marginal and solidly locks a third channel that had occasional dropouts. On about 8 OTA stations that I receive with the 622, I have an indicated signal strength of 83-98. All stations are obstructed by hills and are 20-35 miles from my CM4228 antenna, so all reception situations have a lot of multipath involved. Bottom line from my 4 receiver experiments over the last year is that the 622 is about the same or a little better than the two 811s I have for moderate distance OTA reception.

BTW, based on my reception results, the 622 tuner is also a little better than my Hitachi 60VS810's internal tuner. Both the VOOM receivers and the 811 receivers were/are much better at dealing with terrrain-caused multipath conditions than the tuner in an early (Nov 04) Sony 60XS955 LCD set.

Let us know what you find out on the receiver position swap, if you decide to try that out. What is the transmitter frequency (in MHZ) for your 30 mile distant problem station? Perhaps the 622 has a sensitivity problem at certain frequencies. From your distant station signal quality results, it sounds like the 811 may be a better receiver for deep fringe locations, but only if you get a watchable picture with a bigger antenna or an antenna-mounted signal amplifier.
Good luck.

All 3 were from the exact same location, with the same TV and wiring and done as replacements. The 811 is now deactivated and sitting in a box while the 942 is relocated to another room.

The main "problem" station I referred to is WMUR-DT (59) ABC in Manchester,NH. I'm at 05033 and 800 feet with decent views ESE thru SSW. I would get 40- 49% on the 811 for a fairly wide range and as I rotated in closer, it would start jumping to about 55% with occasional spikes to low 60s and like I said, it did lock once which I believe it went over 65%.

With the 942 and now the 622 I can't get the meter to move, no matter where I rotate the antenna. I've also tried disconnecting the part of the amp that plugs in but that makes no difference.

I've debated moving my antenna since currently it's on the North side of the house and has to "look" across a metal roof toward the stations I'm referring to. It's not that high above the roof either, so I'm wondering if that could be a factor.

BigTVSteve

Jul 10, 2006

622 Sensitivity/Selectivity worse than 811

Walt,

Although most users (including me) have reported more OTA channels received on their 622s than on their 811s or other older receivers, I think you have correctly isolated the problem to your 622.

While your metal roof may be causing some multipath problems, in my experience the 622 is also better at rejecting multipath (reflected) signals than the earlier receivers, so moving your antenna might not help (but see the second following paragraph). If you are leasing the 622, I would try to exchange your 622 with another one, citing poor UHF (Channel 59) OTA performance compared to your 811, using the exact same wiring, antenna feed and location. Perhaps you have a friend in the area who could bring his 622 receiver to connect at your location and check out the performance of his unit compared to yours? I would try both of those things before going through the extra aggravation of moving the antenna and wiring.

You might also try bypassing your antenna mounted amplifier (if you have one) completely, but this may result in the loss of your more distant (probably VHF) stations. When I bypassed both components of my Wineguard antenna amp system and used a more powerful UHF antenna (CM4228), my reception of UHF several stations improved significantly. I think the stronger VHF signals of two closer/lower frequency stations at my location were overloading my antenna mounted amp.

If you had a quality local installer set your new equipment up, they frequently have a portable signal analyzer to measure the strength of OTA signals from individual channels. Such a device was invaluable when I mounted a new OTA antenna in a different location. There were some major differences in signal strength on two of my troublesome UHF channels with just a 15-20 foot horizontal move of Wineguard Square Shooter antenna. I held the antenna on a pole and moved it around the roof areas while the installer monitored the signal strength on my problem child stations. I was able to optimize both the location of the Square Shooter and its azimuth direction with the help of the signal analyzer. This would have been very difficult to do without the roof top in-line analyzer.

Good luck with your problem station. Let us know any of your findings.

waltinvt

Jul 10, 2006

BigTVSteve said:
Walt,

Although most users (including me) have reported more OTA channels received on their 622s than on their 811s or other older receivers, I think you have correctly isolated the problem to your 622.

While your metal roof may be causing some multipath problems, in my experience the 622 is also better at rejecting multipath (reflected) signals than the earlier receivers, so moving your antenna might not help (but see the second following paragraph). If you are leasing the 622, I would try to exchange your 622 with another one, citing poor UHF (Channel 59) OTA performance compared to your 811, using the exact same wiring, antenna feed and location. Perhaps you have a friend in the area who could bring his 622 receiver to connect at your location and check out the performance of his unit compared to yours? I would try both of those things before going through the extra aggravation of moving the antenna and wiring.

You might also try bypassing your antenna mounted amplifier (if you have one) completely, but this may result in the loss of your more distant (probably VHF) stations. When I bypassed both components of my Wineguard antenna amp system and used a more powerful UHF antenna (CM4228), my reception of UHF several stations improved significantly. I think the stronger VHF signals of two closer/lower frequency stations at my location were overloading my antenna mounted amp.

If you had a quality local installer set your new equipment up, they frequently have a portable signal analyzer to measure the strength of OTA signals from individual channels. Such a device was invaluable when I mounted a new OTA antenna in a different location. There were some major differences in signal strength on two of my troublesome UHF channels with just a 15-20 foot horizontal move of Wineguard Square Shooter antenna. I held the antenna on a pole and moved it around the roof areas while the installer monitored the signal strength on my problem child stations. I was able to optimize both the location of the Square Shooter and its azimuth direction with the help of the signal analyzer. This would have been very difficult to do without the roof top in-line analyzer.

Good luck with your problem station. Let us know any of your findings.

Thanks Steve - I really appreciate you're taking this time.

Maybe I should try getting the 622 swapped as I've also had some of the other freezing / rebooting that others have mentioned - I was waiting to see if software would straighten it out.

So you think it's possible the mast mounted part of the amp system might be a problem? I only have a UHF antenna anyway - a arrow shaped thing (Yagie I think). If I can find the slip, I'll post the make & model. All I remember is it cost me almost $500 to have the antenna, rotor & amp installed, so it should be fairly decent - I hope

BigTVSteve

Jul 10, 2006

622 Problems

Walt,

Unless you have some closer than 30 miles VHF transmitters, I doubt your mast mounted amplifier is a problem like it was for me. But if it's not too high on the pole and roof, I would still try bypassing the two units with two coax cable barrel connectors (one at the antenna device; one near your TV where the amp's power supply is).

You can check the distances to all transmitters and look at their operating frequencies in your area by going to antennaweb.com and entering your street address there. I think this site also provides an indication of the transmitter's output power.

My antenna-mounted amp was a top of the line Channel Master 7775 unit (not a Wineguard as I posted earlier), but it still had the overload problems and has been bypassed for about two years now.

Let us know if you find the model numbers for the antenna and amp/pre-amp that were used. Also make certain that they used high quality RG6 cables for the entire run from the antenna to your 622 receiver. If your HDTV set has an internal HD tuner, try connecting your RG6 input lead directly to its antenna input and see if you have a watchable picture from all three stations. In my case, the 622 works better than my Hitachi 60VS810's internal tuner for reception of three of my UHF digital stations.

Sounds like you had a quality OTA installation, as that is about what a good installation will cost. Do you know if the installers used a digital meter or spectrum analyzer to help identify a good location for your antenna? Having spent $500 with them already, I would give them a call and ask if you can't remember. Perhaps they have some good records or can make a relatively low priced signal measurement service call to your installation.

My local VOOM installer from early 2005 was well equipped to install OTA antennas. He used an $800 or so portable digital analyzer that showed selected UHF and VHF signal strengths. Optimizing for reception of your channel 59 would be as simple as entering that frequency and making various changes in pre-amps, wiring, and antenna model and/or location.

My week old 622 is acting up a bit, too. About once or twice a day, it loses all of the guide information for the satellite channels between channel 100 and channel 6407 (dish transmission of one of my local San Diego channels-KGTV). All of the HD capable channels from Dish remain available and in the guide. When this guide loss happens, SOMETIMES I cannot directly enter the missing channels for watching TV. This is a big problem if my wife cannot access 112 (HGTV) or 120 (History Channel) directly. This intermittent guide loss has also occurred once on my week old 211 receiver.

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Green Dot on WJ4?

Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.

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- When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
- When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:

- An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
- A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

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- Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
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Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is.

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Yesterday at 10:32 AM

Report on my iphone 18 PM
Working well with about 3-4 days battery life. New BT and Wifi range is much better than the 15 I had. It doesn't seem any faster but probably is. The Camera shooting video has amazing image stabilization.
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix. This happens about once a week since buying it.

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Foxbat

Today at 9:54 AM

TheForce said:
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix.

I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.

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TheForce

Today at 12:53 PM

Foxbat said:
I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.

My wife hasn't complained about her 17Pro yet.

navychop

Today at 1:01 PM

Shhhh!

Foxbat

Today at 1:15 PM

To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.

TheForce

Today at 2:25 PM

Foxbat said:
To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.

The most annoying for me is when I'm trying to teach my robot to edit the mowing map and the touch screen quits and I have to reboot and start all over. As long as I reboot the phone the repeat will usually complete the map and it is saved.

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Bruce

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Last reply Today at 2:14 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Today at 5:36 AM

According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

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Jimbo

Today at 8:00 AM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

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Bruce

Today at 8:17 AM

Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

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AZ.

Today at 8:25 AM

Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

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Bruce

Today at 11:08 AM

AZ. said:
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

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Bobby

Today at 11:20 AM

Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

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AZ.

Today at 1:09 PM

Bobby said:
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

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TRG

Today at 2:01 PM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish

Bruce

Today at 2:14 PM

AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

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Ramy

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Last reply Today at 2:00 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Ronnie-

Yesterday at 3:11 PM

The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 3:23 PM

Ronnie- said:
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue

)

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 3:28 PM

Jimbo said:
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... )

Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 3:58 PM

Ronnie- said:
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 4:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Of course ... but they Could.

Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Jimbo said:
Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

It was early. Sure.

osu1991

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Ronnie-

Today at 12:34 PM

College Football Playoff, ESPN agree to 5-year, $1.7 billion deal expanding field to 24 teams starting in 2027

The CFP field will have 12 teams this year, before doubling in 2027.

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ESPN and the College Football Playoff (CFP) have agreed to a 5-year deal to expand the playoff from 12 to 24 teams.

The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.

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cp2k

Today at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Jimbo

Today at 2:00 PM

cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment,(a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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