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Curious about the phone line requirement thing. I currently have a VIP622 receiver that is not hooked up to a phone line. I want to eliminate that extra 5.00 a month charge and get rid of that ANNOYING message that pops up everytime after the receiver goes on standby that talks about the phone line charge. The problem is that I use a friend's home in San Francisco as my service address (so I can receive SF networks) but my billing address (and the telephone number that DISH has on file) is in Sacramento 85 miles away which is where the equipment actually is. Do they heavily analyze what phone number your receiver is actually dialing out from and that it's not coming out of the region it's supposed to be in? Sacramento obviously has a different area code from San Francisco.
Thank You.
Curious about the phone line requirement thing. I currently have a VIP622 receiver that is not hooked up to a phone line. I want to eliminate that extra 5.00 a month charge and get rid of that ANNOYING message that pops up everytime after the receiver goes on standby that talks about the phone line charge. The problem is that I use a friend's home in San Francisco as my service address (so I can receive SF networks) but my billing address (and the telephone number that DISH has on file) is in Sacramento 85 miles away which is where the equipment actually is. Do they heavily analyze what phone number your receiver is actually dialing out from and that it's not coming out of the region it's supposed to be in? Sacramento obviously has a different area code from San Francisco.
Thank You.
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first i did get the photos uploaded of my sat truck both in the members photos and profile page. second i do be live everyone should have the right to view any channel they want and only though es they want to pay for. dish is in very big trouble over this and we should back them in every way possible. the consumer or us the people have lost all connection and voice in our so called democracy. our government is taking every single right from you and shutting you up at the same time. the networks are in total control they have the money to persuade the government to do anything they want. so i believe its a battle that must be fought by dish with our help. by just asking for distants is fine with me. but ordering them and using a false address to get them and then connect your phone line to prove its not in its registered location causes dish to be in trouble. enough people doing this and dish will get audited as they have witch showed many people were cheating the system in numberuse ways. and ultimately brought the law suit and the audit team calling everyone to verify the locations of these receivers. i believe dish did have steps in place to ensure those eligible could get them that is as long as you didn't lie to them (which i have not)) so what i have been trying so hard to get across is if your going to cheat the system suck it up and pay the f-n phone fee (DO NOT CONNECT THE GOD DAM PHONE!!!) or is that to much for you to comprehend???
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OK, Mr. Hobo, since YOU decided to keep rambling on about the "phone line" BS (that you obviously have NO clue whatsoever how it works!) & since you keep rambling on about how you "try and live a humble life. so i give my apology's to any one i have offended" & since it will be completely MY fault & EVERY other mover's fault that YOU might loose ALL your distants...
Hmm, interesting - so you have now told the world, that instead of ONLY gettting TWO sets of distants, which is the max that EVERY distant sub is "legally" entitled to, you are actually getting DOUBLE that. (I'm not even counting the San Diego locals) I'm going on the assumption that you are getting them with a combination of subs between E* & D*. BUT, it really doesn't matter - the point being, YOU ARE "cheating the system" (as you like to tell US) since you are getting MORE distant signals than what "the law" tells you that you're SUPPOSED to have.
Ooops, I guess you are ONLY using E* for ALL FOUR distant packages - which means you really ARE cheating, since E* can LEGALLY ONLY sell you TWO cities - hmm, how'd swing THAT???
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=639384#post639384
Truefully, I couldn't give a rat's heiny if you get a dozen different distant nets - BUT, DON'T sit there & throw stones at other people's ethics, when yours are NO better!
It's ONLY in YOUR mind - as everyone else keeps trying to tell you; THE G-D, F&*#$ING PHONE LINE HAS NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING TO DO WITH DISTANT NETS - CONNECTED OR NOT, REGARDLESS OF THE ORGINATING PHONE# THE BOX CALLS FROM!!! IT IS ONLY FOR VERIFYING STACKING PURPOSES FROM MULTIPLE RECEIVERS - NOT THAT "IT'S WHERE A BOX IS SUPPOSED TO BE" - A PHONE LINE CANNOT PROVE WHERE A BOX IS SITTING, OTHER THAN MULTIPLE RECEIVERS ARE SITTING ON THE SAME, F$#!ING PHONE NUMBER!!!
OK, how about this - I suppose if I (or anyone else) really cared that what you are saying exists, did YA EVER think that all one has to do, is get a VOIP with a "compatable number for a given DMA" - OK, problem solved! (Sorry, but I will NOT be spending the extra money to get a Chicago DMA phone #, I'm just trying to get into your mindset on this phoneline obsession you keep having w/distants...
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You STILL have NOT addressed the problem with HOW you are getting your DBS provider(s) to let you have a "mail box" for your physical addy, since they will NOT ACCEPT PO BOXES FOR PHYSICAL ADDYS! (oh, but maybe YOUR special... ) If it is NOT a PO Box, then (obviously) it is some sort of physical address, be it a hotel, apartment building, etc. But the truth be told, there IS a reason why you WON'T answer this simple question that has been asked twice. (& I am begining NOT to buy the "full-time RV'er" grandma story, either... )
How DO you use Vonage w/out a broadband connection - I DO know that Vonage (& others like it) will NOT work well at all w/a satellite broadband connection, so if you are "on the road", I would think you would NOT be using it much at ALL - & why WOULD someone pay $20+ a month for something you can hardly use. (ie: something (else) is fishy here - so-called "full-time RV'ers" DON'T have Vonage... )
Oh looky here, do you WORK full-time out of your "full-time RV"???
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=644193#post644193
Ummmmmmmmmm - thick as mud on a slide....
(you know, you might possibly get more people to take you seriously if you tried spell-check)
BTW, is that the wicked "witch" of illegal distant nets
ONE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER - PERIOD!
The lawsuit was because E* OPENLY SOLD DISTANTS TO GRADE B CUSTOMERS - NOT BECAUSE OF MOVERS, NOT BECAUSE THEY USED THE WRONG PHONE LINES IN THE WRONG AREA CODES!!!
I guess this will be another agree to disagree thing - BTW, what were the colors of those law "suits".
Obviously, ALL of this is WAY, WAY too much for YOU to...
First thing you've said that I DO agree with... (I call it passive-aggressive myself...)
And, considering what you posted here, that's an understatement:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=647540#post647540
Oh what a tangled web we weave...
Now you can go back & watch all of your doubled-up distants in your "FULL TIME RV" that supposedly has EIGHT tuners in ONE RV - uh huh, maybe you're driving an RV for the Rolling Stone's Band...
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=639384#post639384
(you know, I found some other of your "interesting" posts, but I think I have more than proved my point...
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hobojoe said:
Hmm, interesting - so you have now told the world, that instead of ONLY gettting TWO sets of distants, which is the max that EVERY distant sub is "legally" entitled to, you are actually getting DOUBLE that. (I'm not even counting the San Diego locals) I'm going on the assumption that you are getting them with a combination of subs between E* & D*. BUT, it really doesn't matter - the point being, YOU ARE "cheating the system" (as you like to tell US) since you are getting MORE distant signals than what "the law" tells you that you're SUPPOSED to have.
Ooops, I guess you are ONLY using E* for ALL FOUR distant packages - which means you really ARE cheating, since E* can LEGALLY ONLY sell you TWO cities - hmm, how'd swing THAT???
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=639384#post639384
hobojoe said:
Truefully, I couldn't give a rat's heiny if you get a dozen different distant nets - BUT, DON'T sit there & throw stones at other people's ethics, when yours are NO better!
It's ONLY in YOUR mind - as everyone else keeps trying to tell you; THE G-D, F&*#$ING PHONE LINE HAS NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING TO DO WITH DISTANT NETS - CONNECTED OR NOT, REGARDLESS OF THE ORGINATING PHONE# THE BOX CALLS FROM!!! IT IS ONLY FOR VERIFYING STACKING PURPOSES FROM MULTIPLE RECEIVERS - NOT THAT "IT'S WHERE A BOX IS SUPPOSED TO BE" - A PHONE LINE CANNOT PROVE WHERE A BOX IS SITTING, OTHER THAN MULTIPLE RECEIVERS ARE SITTING ON THE SAME, F$#!ING PHONE NUMBER!!!
OK, how about this - I suppose if I (or anyone else) really cared that what you are saying exists, did YA EVER think that all one has to do, is get a VOIP with a "compatable number for a given DMA" - OK, problem solved! (Sorry, but I will NOT be spending the extra money to get a Chicago DMA phone #, I'm just trying to get into your mindset on this phoneline obsession you keep having w/distants...
) You STILL have NOT addressed the problem with HOW you are getting your DBS provider(s) to let you have a "mail box" for your physical addy, since they will NOT ACCEPT PO BOXES FOR PHYSICAL ADDYS! (oh, but maybe YOUR special...
) If it is NOT a PO Box, then (obviously) it is some sort of physical address, be it a hotel, apartment building, etc. But the truth be told, there IS a reason why you WON'T answer this simple question that has been asked twice. (& I am begining NOT to buy the "full-time RV'er" grandma story, either... ) How DO you use Vonage w/out a broadband connection - I DO know that Vonage (& others like it) will NOT work well at all w/a satellite broadband connection, so if you are "on the road", I would think you would NOT be using it much at ALL - & why WOULD someone pay $20+ a month for something you can hardly use. (ie: something (else) is fishy here - so-called "full-time RV'ers" DON'T have Vonage...
) Oh looky here, do you WORK full-time out of your "full-time RV"???
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=644193#post644193
So, how DO you get stuff shipped to your RV???
Ummmmmmmmmm - thick as mud on a slide....
(you know, you might possibly get more people to take you seriously if you tried spell-check)
BTW, is that the wicked "witch" of illegal distant nets
ONE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER - PERIOD!
The lawsuit was because E* OPENLY SOLD DISTANTS TO GRADE B CUSTOMERS - NOT BECAUSE OF MOVERS, NOT BECAUSE THEY USED THE WRONG PHONE LINES IN THE WRONG AREA CODES!!!
I guess this will be another agree to disagree thing - BTW, what were the colors of those law "suits".
Obviously, ALL of this is WAY, WAY too much for YOU to...
First thing you've said that I DO agree with... (I call it passive-aggressive myself...)
And, considering what you posted here, that's an understatement:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=647540#post647540
hobojoe said:
Oh what a tangled web we weave...
Now you can go back & watch all of your doubled-up distants in your "FULL TIME RV" that supposedly has EIGHT tuners in ONE RV - uh huh, maybe you're driving an RV for the Rolling Stone's Band...
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=639384#post639384
(you know, I found some other of your "interesting" posts, but I think I have more than proved my point...
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i work full time for DOD! living in my RV traveling from each location as they desire. i save the TAD money that would other wise be paid for the hotel rooms. voip over sat works perfectly fine. i have had little to no problems with it. my address has been a PO box for the 10 years i have had service with dish network. the PO box is a united states post office box on a military installation. they have never had a problem shipping to me. or a problem with that address. you can call dish and order all the distant networks your self. its even available on line if you are authorized. the audit team has called me about every three years to check on me. as they did this late spring to complete the new forms. they are fully aware of my situation. i own all the receivers but only have three active right now. a 7200 for webtv a 508 for the dvr and a 301 for general use. i assume my new picture has shut you up about how many dish's i have. and people using voip out side of there area is fine with me its better than you hocking up your phone in NY when your account says la. i still say everyone should have the right to get any station they want apparently that's the only thing you agree on. and i try and live a truthfull humble life that doesn't effect any one else. even the pop is a siner. the day i say I'm perfect then call me Jesus. the spell check may need to be checked then because i use it every time. any thing i have missed I'm shire you will gladly point out! eagerly waiting your reply!
hobojoe said:
No offense joe but if you'd break your posts up a little (paragraphs) and improve your sentence structure (ie periods at the end and capital letter starting), they'd be a lot easier to read.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.
In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.
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In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.
Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News
Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inchesThats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm
After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.
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Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm
After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.www.lightreading.com
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I was reading this article
thehill.com
That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.
And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.
Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.
There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.
In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.
Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.
Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.
So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households
So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.
That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.
But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.
Imagine what 2024 will be like.
Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022
The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.
And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.
Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.
There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.
In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.
Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.
Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.
So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households
So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.
That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.
But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.
Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees.
I thought you might like that.
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Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
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Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
He wants to be BradyMahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
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HBO Max and Paramount+ to Combine Into One Streaming Platform, Paramount Says HBO Brand Will 'Operate With Independence'
Paramount+ right now is at $13.99 for the ad-free with Showtime content and HBO MAX is now $22.99 for the 4K ad-free plan so together they are $36.98. By the time this goes through the approval process which I am sure will fly right through you would probably looking at $50 per month for the ad-free 4K plan combined.
Paramount+ right now is at $13.99 for the ad-free with Showtime content and HBO MAX is now $22.99 for the 4K ad-free plan so together they are $36.98. By the time this goes through the approval process which I am sure will fly right through you would probably looking at $50 per month for the ad-free 4K plan combined.
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There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV.use an adblocker
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV.
DC Studios Shocker: James Gunn, Peter Safran Stepping Down with Marvel Alum Jeremy Latcham to Take Over
The duo were believed to be safe amid the Skydance takeover of Warner Bros., but now have a former Kevin Feige protege taking over their division.
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DC Shocker: James Gunn, Peter Safran Out as Co-Chairmen, Marvel Veteran Jeremy Latcham to Lead Comic Book Studio
James Gunn and Peter Safran are stepping down as co-presidents of DC Studios, and they will be replaced by Jeremy Latcham.
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And it begins. Looking to trim $2 billion there will be a lot of people out of jobs.