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Tom Bombadil

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Last reply Sep 17, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

D* buying E? Looks Unlikely. Rupert selling D? Maybe

Rupert Murdoch wants John Malone to get out of his hair. To that end, Murdoch might be offering Malone DirecTV. Murdoch's News Corp. is proposing to Malone's Liberty Media a tax-free exchange of its DirecTV stake in return for the $10 billion stake Liberty owns in News Corp., according to a report by CNBC's David Faber.

Both News Corp. president Peter Chernin and Liberty CEO Greg Maffei have been hinting to investors at a Merrill Lynch media conference today that a swap may be under way, according to the report.

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Liberty last year abruptly increased its voting stake in News Corp. from 9% to 17%, startling company Chairman Rupert Murdoch and prompting him to establish defenses against an unwelcome takeover.

News Corp. has tried unsuccessfully for years to lure Liberty out of the company., but has never offered anything Malone deemed worthy of exchanging for his stake, 188 million voting shares and 324 million non-voting shares. In the past, for example, News Corp. offered Liberty several local stations .

With the satellite business limited in its growth, DirecTV has frustrated News Corp. lately which could explain the company's willingness to part with it. Murdoch aggressively went after DirecTV for years, but has been so disappointed with it lately, he has called it a "turd bird."

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Stargazer

Sep 15, 2006

I remember when TCI and Time Warner ran Primestar.

RVD420

Sep 15, 2006

rad said:
One of the reasons CNBC gave was that Murdoch was upset that D* couldn't figure out how to have a broadband capability to allow for better compation with telco's and cable offering their 'triple play'.

Too bad something like this didn't happen earlier, we might be looking at a new MPEG4 Tivo box vs. the HR20.

If they would have used the Spaceway bird for what they were initially built for maybe broadband wouldn't be as big as an issue.

BTW the spaceway birds were initially meant for highspeed internet.

rad

Sep 15, 2006

RVD420 said:
If they would have used the Spaceway bird for what they were initially built for maybe broadband wouldn't be as big as an issue.

BTW the spaceway birds were initially meant for highspeed internet.

But with the latency issue that all geo synchronous internet solutions have, and their high price, nobody that has access to land based access would want it.

Tom Bombadil

Sep 17, 2006

I wonder if John Malone thinks owning D* is more attractive than owning 18% of News Corp?

If Rupert thinks it is a "turd bird" and wants to dump it, why would Malone want it?

Unless he has ideas on how to position DBS for the future.

Tom Bombadil

Sep 17, 2006

Rupert Murdoch spent more than a decade trying to gain control of DirecTV Group Inc., the United States' leading satellite TV operator.

But the chairman of News Corp. appears willing to give that up for something he values even more: bulletproof control of his own company.

Murdoch is currently negotiating to swap his 38 percent stake in El Segundo, Calif.-based DirecTV to cable pioneer John Malone for the 19 percent voting stake in News Corp. owned by Malone's Liberty Media Corp., according to two people familiar with the negotiations.

The trade would free Murdoch from fears that Liberty's chunk could fall into unfriendly hands and threaten his family's grip on News Corp. In the last year and a half, Liberty has become the second-largest shareholder in News Corp. after the Murdoch family, which controls nearly 30 percent.

If accomplished, a deal also would allow Murdoch to opt out of a crushing battle in the pay television business, as telephone companies enter the market. Already, DirecTV's growth has slowed as cable rivals such as Comcast Corp. have provided high-speed Internet access and phone service over the same wire into the home that they use to deliver TV.

At the same time, the swap would return Malone to media's big leagues. Liberty's assets include the nation's largest home-shopping network, QVC, the Starz movie channels and large stakes in Discovery Communications and Barry Diller's IAC/InterActiveCorp., but Malone's status as a media mogul waned in 1999, when he sold the nation's leading cable television provider, Tele-Communications Inc., to AT&T Corp.

If he gains control of DirecTV, Malone eventually would pursue a merger with its sole rival, EchoStar Communications Corp., according to sources at News Corp., who asked not to be identified because the negotiations are private.

Executives at Liberty Media could not be reached for comment.

Federal regulators rejected a proposed combination of the nation's two satellite TV providers in 2002 as anti-competitive. However, Murdoch, 75, has said publicly that the new competition in the pay television business from telephone companies could make Washington more amenable to such a deal today.

Murdoch purchased its DirecTV holdings from General Motors Corp. in late 2003 to fill a void in a satellite apparatus that reached every corner of the globe. Among News Corp.'s satellite services are BSkyB in Britain and StarTV in Asia.

However, his enthusiasm for DirecTV has diminished in the last year because of satellite TV's technical limitations and its slowing growth, News Corp. insiders say. Satellite technology is not capable of delivering the advanced services at the core of the cable-phone rivalry.

This summer, Murdoch and Malone tentatively agreed to a widely publicized trade involving 10 News Corp. TV stations. But in mid-July, when the pair were at the Allen & Co. media conference in Sun Valley, Idaho, they discussed the DirecTV transaction, according to News Corp. insiders.

DirecTV is among several options on the table, people close to the discussions said. Malone has also expressed interest in Murdoch's regional sports channels. The talks could still break down, as they have several times in the last year, the sources said.

Under the terms currently being discussed, Liberty would swap its 19 percent stake in News Corp., which is worth more than $11 billion, for the 38 percent stake in DirecTV, which is valued at about $9 billion. Liberty, which is based outside Denver, would get another asset in the trade such as a television station and would contribute some cash so the deal would be tax-free for News Corp., sources said.

Malone has insisted on trading his stock for a hard asset owned by News Corp. rather than cash to allow him to avoid paying capital gains taxes.

Malone, a former partner of Murdoch's in several cable channels, took the Australian-born magnate by surprise in late 2004, when he doubled his stake in News Corp. by accumulating shares on the cheap when fund managers in Murdoch's native country began dumping them out of their portfolios as the company moved its headquarters to New York City and its stock listing to the New York Stock Exchange.

Although Malone has publicly assured investors and Murdoch that he had no intention to make a hostile play for News Corp., Murdoch has been obsessed with paying off Malone and eliminating any threat, News Corp. sources said.

Murdoch was expected to use his expanded powers in pay television to launch several new channels. But to date, News Corp. has created only two channels on the satellite platform, Reality TV and Fuel, a sports network.

A business news channel that would compete with NBC Universal's CNBC has been on the drawing board for more than a year and is expected to be launched in early 2007. Since the acquisition, DirecTV's subscriber base has grown by a third to nearly 16 million.

Malone's holdings in News Corp. date to 1999, when Liberty Media swapped an interest in the Fox/Liberty Networks sports venture for News Corp. stock. A year later, Malone exchanged a stake in Gemstar-TV Guide International Inc. for more News Corp. stock.

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Whisky Pick: Red Bank Premium Blended

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Linux Kernel TCP Flaw: Why Ubuntu’s Patch Deployed Later #shorts

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 34 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Ramy

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Last reply Yesterday at 11:03 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yesterday at 7:29 PM

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Yesterday at 9:28 PM

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cp2k

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:23 PM

cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

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Yesterday at 11:03 PM

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Bruce

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:48 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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reubenray

Yesterday at 1:09 PM

In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:19 PM

reubenray said:
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.

Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 6:25 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 7:25 PM

Bobby said:
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.

I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...

brice52

Yesterday at 7:39 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches

reubenray

Yesterday at 7:41 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 7:42 PM

brice52 said:
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches

Really, you Lucky Dog !

Do you Work for that ISP ? :biggrin

Bobby

Yesterday at 8:49 PM

Jimbo said:
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...

I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Jimbo said:
So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:20 PM

Bobby said:
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.

Ok, your talking in the right of way ...
I thought you were talking about from the ped to the houses.

Fortunately you don't usually get Cable cuts Under a sidewalk, usually its when a Construction crew us digging with major equipment.

The drops to the house are not going to be very deep, sometimes barely under the sod. 6" is a godsend.

osu1991

Yesterday at 10:48 PM

I'm fortunate to have 3 fiber providers now.

Cox and T mobile bored and put conduit in before pulling the fiber thru the easement in my neighborhood . Windstream Kinetic I can't remember if they pulled conduit first or not. I remember they didn't have a boring machine when they came thru my yard, they used that for the mainline crossing under the street but had a vibratory plow in my backyard. I remember seeing some blue conduit just don't remember where it was being used. Windstream barely put the fiber run from the pedestal to my house about 2 inches underground. Landscaper hit it while putting landscaping around the pedestal they added to my yard. I made sure they buried it at least 12 inches when they replaced it.

AEP/ PSO the electric company has their main distribution lines running on poles along the back of my property. Cox has their main distribution line hung on those poles before going underground through the neighborhood.

I'm in the middle of a damage claim and about to take them to court as insurance is trying to get out of it claiming the lines were too low. Had an oversized load get lost and try to turn around in an older neighborhood. Pulled down 5 blocks of fiber with separate fiber lines belonging to the city, Cox/Spectrum and ATT.

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Broadcasters To Encrypt Emergency Messages with DRM..

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:00 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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Bruce

Thursday at 9:59 AM

SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

www.lightreading.com

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fmj77

Saturday at 8:51 PM

Bruce said:
SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

www.lightreading.com

Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.

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dishstaller

Sunday at 9:37 AM

fmj77 said:
That article reads like a political hit job.

You can say that for about 90% of so-called news articles these days.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:38 PM

https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 6:52 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.

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Bobby

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Last reply Yesterday at 9:22 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 23, 2026

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Jim5506

Oct 24, 2026

long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 24, 2026

Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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Foxbat

Oct 24, 2026

The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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Bruce

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Last reply Yesterday at 8:53 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Yesterday at 5:36 AM

According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 8:00 AM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

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Bruce

Yesterday at 8:17 AM

Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

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AZ.

Yesterday at 8:25 AM

Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

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Bruce

Yesterday at 11:08 AM

AZ. said:
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:20 AM

Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 1:09 PM

Bobby said:
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

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TRG

Yesterday at 2:01 PM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish

Bruce

Yesterday at 2:14 PM

AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:12 PM

TRG said:
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees.

Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:13 PM

Bruce said:
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:14 PM

Bruce said:
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .

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Bruce

Yesterday at 7:30 PM

Jimbo said:
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?

Two MLB teams.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 7:35 PM

Bruce said:
Two MLB teams.

Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.

TRG

Yesterday at 8:53 PM

Jimbo said:
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...

I thought you might like that. :biggrin

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KAB

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Last reply Yesterday at 6:37 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Green Dot on WJ4?

Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.

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Redneck_Randy

Yesterday at 8:34 AM

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The little green dot inside a small black field in the upper right-hand corner of your screen is an Android privacy indicator confirming that the voice remote's microphone is actively listening. Because the Joey 4 runs on an Android

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bnewt

Yesterday at 9:16 AM

That's no good

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 3:05 PM

The green dot on Android TV is supposed to show as long as an app or background service is actively using the microphone or camera. [1, 2]

What Normal Behavior Looks Like

- When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
- When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:

- An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
- A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

How to Fix or Check It

- Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
- Check app permissions: Go to your TV's Settings > Privacy or Device Preferences > Microphone to see which apps have access, and revoke permission for any suspicious or unnecessary apps. [1, 2]

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 3:16 PM

Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:37 PM

Reboot the joey it should go away after

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