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1. & 2. Really; OTA is the customer's responsibility, NOT your DBS company; buy you own quality OTA antenna and install it wherever you want and have a local pro show you how do aim it correctly.

3. Been over this before in other threads, based on your service zip and your affiliates, thee is no way you are gonna get legit waivers.

4. H20 working OTA now / HR20 OTA not turned on yet.

5. Trees & the AT9; there is no truth to the AT9 not working in your area; however as far as your own property LoS issues, trees, etc, we are gonna at least need some quality photos to even begin hazard a guess. Mount that AT9 on the roof eave or chimney and you should be fine unless you live in some dense forest that enclosed your home with a tube of 100' trees.

1. Don't care, if that's the case, then why did they sell it to me and have dude come out 6 times? And if that's their excuse, then Comcast is the answer, simple as that.

3. Again, don't care, this is their last chance, Comcast will be the answer, oh...and rentention lady told me "We have a big problem with Dish turning on national feeds without waivers"...really????? Maybe I should call them?????

4. Okay, she told me by next weekedn it would work, if it doesn't, you seemed to answered my comcast question with....say again...comcast!!!!!!

5. Probably so, but it may work anyway, but if I cuold get one of the DTV people who has been to my house or on the phone to agree if it was low or high on the horizon, not a hard concept to comprehend, I would know now, because I will bet dollars to donuts they will "refuse" to move the dish from it's current location to the chimney or wherever, and how am I gonna use the chimney???? And they'lll give me some ridiculous crap line you just gave that it's :my responsibility" as if I owe them my business or something, ROTLMAO, yeah...wel'll see how long that attitude lasts in my house this weekend. Lucky for my account, they have not actually used that line with me.

But in any event, as mad as I am, I love the service and don't want to leave, but will if I can't watch CBS SEC football without this pixelazation, and especially after they told me Dish keeps breaking the law and hooking up national feeds without waivers as if i'm going to think that's a bad think since it's a stupid moronic law. No idea at all if it's true and maybe it's not and other customers were just feeding her a line of garbage to berate her and she thought I was going to try that so she was cutting me off, but i'll look into it if this weekend's hookup technician is like the last one and shows up with hsi kids in the truck and does not want to work, the OTA tuner does not work, they then won't again give me the NYC CBS as a stop gap until they ge my local in HD....you get the picture.

Point is the credits and free HBO etc. was good for a while, but after a while I just want my service, I am willing and able to pay for it and I want it and am no longer willing to get for free something less than what I consider bottom line essential. The folks over there are always very polite and nice, but no one tells me the same thing twice and corporate double talk is infuriating to me. I know it is not the decision of the individuals I speak to on the phone so I never am insulting to them personally, but it is very sad that the only way to get results over there is to raise hell, politely, but raise hell nontheless. For example, in spite of twice promising me a free upgrade to the HR20 and putting it on my account, it was not there and I had to "raise hell" and threaten to not pay my current bill and break my contract to get them to honor it erpetedly in response to their counter offers down from 299 for the upgrade (they went down to 199, 99, 59, some more free service, then finally free, I mean what gives??????).