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Guys,
I can't find 2" schedule 40 stainless, but I did find some 2" rigid steel conduit (which appears to be heavier). Can I use rigid steel conduit instead of schedule 40 2"?

I spoke with the installer and he doesn't have any 2" schedule 40 either.

Have any of you installers out there used rigid steel conduit over sch 40?

Tks.

Bill
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This is going to be an experience. I just got off the phone with the installter (he's on the way).

My question to him was if he was going to put concrete in the pole or just in the ground.

His comment "maybe neither I might be able to just drive it into the ground". I don't think this is going to go well.......

Keeping my fingers crossed.

Bill
charper1
WRONG! Send him away ASAP if that is his method. AND as should have been mentioned before, setting the mount pipe correctly is usually best done yourself or at least a few days in advance of the full install.
Jimbo
charper1 said:
WRONG! Send him away ASAP if that is his method. AND as should have been mentioned before, setting the mount pipe correctly is usually best done yourself or at least a few days in advance of the full install.
Yup,
IF he does do the job correctly, he should put concrete in the hole and place the pole
and then add more concrete around the pole.
btw, you should also drill a hole in the bottom of the pole and add a nut and bolt to the pole so that there is no way for the pole to turn as well.

Personally, I would place the pole before hand, that way you know it's done right, unless LOS might be an issue and you need D* to verify for you.

Jimbo
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Wow, what a day. I'm getting 2 HR20-700s and one standard box installed. I needed these installers to drop the 4 lines from the SAT into a structured panel in my master br, where I'm going to put the multiiswitch. Also, 3 drops to the master br (2 for sat, 1 for OTA antenna). The other lines are already ran inside the house. Since they didn't have a pole they offered to put in the pole mount for free as long as I paid for the materials (no problem on my end). So we agreed on $150 for the 2 wall fishes. He stated he could have charged me for 2 wall fishes for the 4 lines going into the closet (seems a little excessive to me since its all going down the same hole). You installers out there...is this a fair price?

1. The pole mount was the biggest pain, as they didn't (or at least that's what installer said) tell him it was going to be a pole mount (even though I called the place beforehand). So I went to Home Depot and got a 1-1/2" section of steel rigid conduit. Wow this stuff is heavy and at $38 not too cheap. Now I know why it's measured by inside vs outside diameter. I put some 3/8" lag bolts into the bottom as suggested to stop it from moving. Also put a piece of 6' rebar inside the pole and filled it with cement. If this thing moves, I'll be surprised. They didn't have a level so I got mine and leveled it out. So I did everyhing except dig the hole.
2. They put in the 4 lines by going through my soffit and over to the structured wiring box. What surprised me is they didn't go in as close to the house as possible and went right in the middle of the soffit. Don't think this will make a difference?
3. I'm not thinking this guy has done too many of these installs for the new dish, as he asked me if I knew anyone that had just had one recently installed. He wanted to know how many satellites he should be seeing??
4. They dropped their drill bit down the wall and their drill broke. I let them use mine.
5. Waiting for the pole to set up. I leveled it up ~ 5:30pm. You guys think tomorrow morning at 9am will be enough time to put up the dish?
6. They left around 30 minutes ago and have the following left to do:
a. Wall fish the 3 drops for the master br down to the structured wiring box. They got the other side down the wall in the br, just not inside the wiring box.
b. Put up the ground block for the 4 lines and then connect the satellite up to the ground block.
c. Ground the ground block and dish

So to pole mount, do 1 wall fish and 1/2 of the other wall fish, they were here from 2pm - 8:30. Back tomorrow at 9am.

Wow. I hope tomorrow goes better than today.

Quick questions. I have a pool that has a ground wire for the pumps. Can he tie into this ground or would it be better to run another ground wire and hit the house ground?
This guy says he has a birddog and it won't take long to line up the dish....We'll see.

Tks.

Bill
Jimbo
btalbott said:
Wow, what a day. I'm getting 2 HR20-700s and one standard box installed. I needed these installers to drop the 4 lines from the SAT into a structured panel in my master br, where I'm going to put the multiiswitch. Also, 3 drops to the master br (2 for sat, 1 for OTA antenna). The other lines are already ran inside the house. Since they didn't have a pole they offered to put in the pole mount for free as long as I paid for the materials (no problem on my end). So we agreed on $150 for the 2 wall fishes. He stated he could have charged me for 2 wall fishes for the 4 lines going into the closet (seems a little excessive to me since its all going down the same hole). You installers out there...is this a fair price?

1. The pole mount was the biggest pain, as they didn't (or at least that's what installer said) tell him it was going to be a pole mount (even though I called the place beforehand). So I went to Home Depot and got a 1-1/2" section of steel rigid conduit. Wow this stuff is heavy and at $38 not too cheap. Now I know why it's measured by inside vs outside diameter. I put some 3/8" lag bolts into the bottom as suggested to stop it from moving. Also put a piece of 6' rebar inside the pole and filled it with cement. If this thing moves, I'll be surprised. They didn't have a level so I got mine and leveled it out. So I did everyhing except dig the hole.



2. They put in the 4 lines by going through my soffit and over to the structured wiring box. What surprised me is they didn't go in as close to the house as possible and went right in the middle of the soffit. Don't think this will make a difference?
3. I'm not thinking this guy has done too many of these installs for the new dish, as he asked me if I knew anyone that had just had one recently installed. He wanted to know how many satellites he should be seeing??
4. They dropped their drill bit down the wall and their drill broke. I let them use mine.
5. Waiting for the pole to set up. I leveled it up ~ 5:30pm. You guys think tomorrow morning at 9am will be enough time to put up the dish?
6. They left around 30 minutes ago and have the following left to do:
a. Wall fish the 3 drops for the master br down to the structured wiring box. They got the other side down the wall in the br, just not inside the wiring box.
b. Put up the ground block for the 4 lines and then connect the satellite up to the ground block.
c. Ground the ground block and dish

So to pole mount, do 1 wall fish and 1/2 of the other wall fish, they were here from 2pm - 8:30. Back tomorrow at 9am.

Wow. I hope tomorrow goes better than today.

Quick questions. I have a pool that has a ground wire for the pumps. Can he tie into this ground or would it be better to run another ground wire and hit the house ground?
This guy says he has a birddog and it won't take long to line up the dish....We'll see.

Tks.

Bill
1. I did not tell my installer ahead of time that it was a pole mount, and he didn't have any trouble with it, but then I had the pole already in.
Count on them telling you the pole is to small, (1 1/2) mine was 1 7/8th and they said the mast would not tighted down on it, and it did not ....
I had my guy line it up and shot a few screws into it.
How high of a pole did you go with ?

2. No difference, just a cosmetic thing, depends on you, your the one looking at it, once it's done you won't be scrutinizing it afterwords.... unless they do a sloppy job, but you can stay with them and tell them how you want it done .... or ... you can do it ....

3. all of them. He should know this info. We should'nt have to tell them how to do it. ... or we would do it ourselves, I will set my next AT-9 up myself.

5. Well, they tell you to let it set for 24 hours I think, unless you got the quick dry stuff, you'll have to look at the bag and see what it says.
If you think it's good to go, see if you can move it around (probably not).
It also depends on your weather in your area, is it dry where this stuff is setting up quickly ?
I don't know how high your pole is (mine is 13 ft out of the ground, 3 ft in the ground) How deep did they plant yours ?, below the front line, I hope.

6. Plan on being there for a good part of the day, your the supervisor make sure it's done the way you want, seeing your paying them, but also stay out of thier way at the same time.

7. House ground is the recommended way.

8. If the guy does not have a problem mounting (due to the pole size) it should be a 15-30 minute job to line up the dish, my guy did it in 10 minutes while explaining everything he was doing on the dish to me, he knows I will be doing my next one, I hate to have others do something I can do myself.
btw, my installer said that the highest signal strengh he's had when pointing these dishes is 69-70 , I told him I will not accept a 70 on my sat system.
but he was right, I played with the birdgog myself...
When we got to the receiver installation, my SS was all in the 90's, so don't think the signal is way out of line if he's in the 70's outside.
Make sure he does the fine tuning on the AT-9.

Good luck,

Jimbo
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
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With A Little Luck - Wings
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LITTLE Willy-Sweet
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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