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I ordered a 721 soon after introduced (2003?). Love it. Always have. Unfortunately, they do tend to drop dead. I last replaced one in early August 2006. Yep, 2 months ago. This was the third replacement, so it was the 4th 721 in the house. It at first seemed defective, getting 110 or 119, but not both. Reported it, they sent another one. Meanwhile, after 2-3 days, ole #4 self-corrected. Never a problem since. And #5 arrived in a damaged, ripped open box. So I returned "#5" and kept on with #4.
The 721's "Urgency of Need Detector" is working fine. The 721 is in our bedroom. My wife took sick yesterday and stayed in bed all day today. No prob- she can watch TV all day. Of course, first thing in the morning I discovered the 721 had died overnight. Tech thinks it might be a bad power supply rather than the HD, but they're not sure. At least this time I only lost about 30 hours of recordings and no PPVs. And yes, it's in a fairly open shelf unit.
I must say the CSR was wonderful, did not waste too much of my time (had me redo most of the steps I'd already tried)- and answered IMMEDIATELY after I got thru all the recordings (press this, press that, if you really insist on a human press...). I've always had good CSRs.
So, I have another 721 coming. I sure hope it'll last the 3 years or so until they stop using MPEG-2. But probably not. This time, though, I'll have to dump to DVR anything I consider important, rather than waiting to see it "later." Most stuff goes on the ViP622 anyway. Maybe I'll just duplicate every 721 recording on the 508.
No questions, just reporting. And I still like the 721, but I won't rely on it so much.
The 721's "Urgency of Need Detector" is working fine. The 721 is in our bedroom. My wife took sick yesterday and stayed in bed all day today. No prob- she can watch TV all day. Of course, first thing in the morning I discovered the 721 had died overnight. Tech thinks it might be a bad power supply rather than the HD, but they're not sure. At least this time I only lost about 30 hours of recordings and no PPVs. And yes, it's in a fairly open shelf unit.
I must say the CSR was wonderful, did not waste too much of my time (had me redo most of the steps I'd already tried)- and answered IMMEDIATELY after I got thru all the recordings (press this, press that, if you really insist on a human press...). I've always had good CSRs.
So, I have another 721 coming. I sure hope it'll last the 3 years or so until they stop using MPEG-2. But probably not. This time, though, I'll have to dump to DVR anything I consider important, rather than waiting to see it "later." Most stuff goes on the ViP622 anyway. Maybe I'll just duplicate every 721 recording on the 508.
No questions, just reporting. And I still like the 721, but I won't rely on it so much.
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I'm beginning to think they would- especially since they would then get you out of a grandfathered DVR to one where you'd have to start paying the DVR fee. Plus, have the wonderful ( 
) option of VOD.
I'm inclined to try to hang on until DISH makes the final move (2009/2010?) to MPEG-4 & 8PSK and the 721 simply won't work anymore. But if they keep dying every 2-3 months, I won't be able to put up with that. Still, I'd rather get a deal to up to an HD DVR- maybe one with 2 sat tuners, 1 ATSC OTA tuner but only supports one TV. Maybe in another year or so.
Back to the 721 #6 saga. It would not authorize the night I called. The CSR said probably another 8 minutes, and we ended the call. 90 minutes later, still trying to authorize. Overcast skies, but the ViP622 & 508 were working fine. Trying to go to menu or do any other function would not work, it just stayed at the authorize - do not disturb screen. So I disturbed it by unplugging it. Still no dice, just went back to authorizing. Left to eat supper. Eventually it stopped trying to authorize and let me enter the menu. Sometimes check switch would give me all greens on the tuners (if I check switched from 119), but would often give red Xs on tuner/sat 1 (if I started check switch from 110). Left it overnight. Next day, #6 was behaving like #4- could get 110 or 119 but not both. Guide would only show some channels (e.g.- either 120 or 121, but not both- diff sats). Finally called Dish again, went thru the usual (which I had already done, except for checking 61.5), was told the thing would trundle for another 20 mins or so, and work fine. If not, try unplugging and if that doesn't work, call back.
After 20-30 minutes, the 721 appeared to finally show all channels in the guide, and worked fine- perhaps a tad slower than I recall. Later I tried to create a favorites list. Everything worked fine, except no list was in fact created. After repeated tries, with a limited number of channels selected, it finally "took." but renaming it "fav 1" just left it at "list1fav1" or some such. Adding channels did not work. I figure I'll try again tonight- maybe the 721 just needs a day or 3 to "compose" itself and work properly. I'm also testing to see if it records properly from the guide. BTW, "The Stepford Wives" on the free ShowTime preview is the new one, not the old one- don't bother wasting electrons recording it.
So tonight I'll play some more, before I return the old 721. Might have to call in and have even this one replaced. Or see if it gives me 2 months service like the last one. At some point, if the failures continue, either Dish or I will get tired of it and propose another solution. Maybe I'll just shift my ViP622 to dual mode and feed the master bedroom TV from there.
All the CSRs I dealt with were wonderful and capable. Especially the last one, who realized I could just be told to run a check switch and did not insist upon reading every little step.
) option of VOD.I'm inclined to try to hang on until DISH makes the final move (2009/2010?) to MPEG-4 & 8PSK and the 721 simply won't work anymore. But if they keep dying every 2-3 months, I won't be able to put up with that. Still, I'd rather get a deal to up to an HD DVR- maybe one with 2 sat tuners, 1 ATSC OTA tuner but only supports one TV. Maybe in another year or so.
Back to the 721 #6 saga. It would not authorize the night I called. The CSR said probably another 8 minutes, and we ended the call. 90 minutes later, still trying to authorize. Overcast skies, but the ViP622 & 508 were working fine. Trying to go to menu or do any other function would not work, it just stayed at the authorize - do not disturb screen. So I disturbed it by unplugging it. Still no dice, just went back to authorizing. Left to eat supper. Eventually it stopped trying to authorize and let me enter the menu. Sometimes check switch would give me all greens on the tuners (if I check switched from 119), but would often give red Xs on tuner/sat 1 (if I started check switch from 110). Left it overnight. Next day, #6 was behaving like #4- could get 110 or 119 but not both. Guide would only show some channels (e.g.- either 120 or 121, but not both- diff sats). Finally called Dish again, went thru the usual (which I had already done, except for checking 61.5), was told the thing would trundle for another 20 mins or so, and work fine. If not, try unplugging and if that doesn't work, call back.
After 20-30 minutes, the 721 appeared to finally show all channels in the guide, and worked fine- perhaps a tad slower than I recall. Later I tried to create a favorites list. Everything worked fine, except no list was in fact created. After repeated tries, with a limited number of channels selected, it finally "took." but renaming it "fav 1" just left it at "list1fav1" or some such. Adding channels did not work. I figure I'll try again tonight- maybe the 721 just needs a day or 3 to "compose" itself and work properly. I'm also testing to see if it records properly from the guide. BTW, "The Stepford Wives" on the free ShowTime preview is the new one, not the old one- don't bother wasting electrons recording it.
So tonight I'll play some more, before I return the old 721. Might have to call in and have even this one replaced. Or see if it gives me 2 months service like the last one. At some point, if the failures continue, either Dish or I will get tired of it and propose another solution. Maybe I'll just shift my ViP622 to dual mode and feed the master bedroom TV from there.
All the CSRs I dealt with were wonderful and capable. Especially the last one, who realized I could just be told to run a check switch and did not insist upon reading every little step.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.
In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.
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In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.
Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News
Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inchesThats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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I was reading this article
thehill.com
That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.
And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.
Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.
There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.
In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.
Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.
Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.
So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households
So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.
That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.
But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.
Imagine what 2024 will be like.
Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022
The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.
And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.
Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.
There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.
In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.
Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.
Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.
So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households
So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.
That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.
But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.
Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees.
I thought you might like that.
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Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.
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