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The SatelliteGuys.US Uplink Activity Report - 10/18/2006 - 46 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 10/17/2006 08:56A - 10/18/2006 12:35P

281 - ESPNU removed from 119.0W TP 04
288 - HBO-E added to 119.0W TP 02 (Not Available)
289 - HBO2E added to 119.0W TP 06 (Not Available)
290 - HBOSG added to 119.0W TP 06 (Not Available)
291 - HBO-W added to 119.0W TP 19 (Not Available)
292 - HBO2W added to 119.0W TP 13 (Not Available)
293 - HBOFM added to 119.0W TP 08 (Not Available)
294 - HBOCY added to 110.0W TP 11 (Not Available)
295 - HBOLT added to 110.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
437 - TUSOU renamed to SPSOU (A)
599 - SICNO added to 148.0W TP 29 (Not Available)
599 - SICNO added to 61.5W TP 31 (Not Available)
784 - EURNS added to 118.0W TP 02 (Not Available)
812 - AMDES removed from 121.0W TP 06
900 - EURNS added to 148.0W TP 07 (Not Available)
900 - EURNS added to 61.5W TP 14 (Not Available)
901 - INTL6 renamed to EURNS (NA)
901 - INTL6 renamed to EURNS (NA)
902 - INTL7 removed from 148.0W TP 07
902 - INTL7 removed from 61.5W TP 14
5500 - DSCHD - 110.0W TP 29 changed to Available
5501 - TNTHD - 110.0W TP 27 changed to Available
5505 - ESPHD - 110.0W TP 29 changed to Available
5506 - ES2HD - 110.0W TP 27 changed to Available
5507 - NFLHD - 110.0W TP 12 changed to Available
5510 - HDNET - 110.0W TP 12 changed to Available
5511 - HDNMV - 110.0W TP 12 changed to Available
5512 - UNIHD - 110.0W TP 12 changed to Available
5515 - HBOHD - 110.0W TP 27 changed to Available
5516 - SHOHD - 110.0W TP 29 changed to Available
5743 - IAD14 added to 110.0W TP 08 (Not Available)
5744 - IAD15 added to 110.0W TP 08 (Not Available)
5745 - IAD16 added to 110.0W TP 08 (Not Available)
5746 - IAD17 added to 110.0W TP 08 (Not Available)
6501 - STZHD added to 129.0W TP 30 (Not Available)
6502 - NFLHD added to 129.0W TP 30 (Not Available)
6503 - HGHD added to 61.5W TP 02 (Not Available)
8225 - KBHK renamed to KBCW (A)
8344 - WVPT removed from 119.0W TP 03
8345 - WHSVD removed from 129.0W TP 16
8346 - WCAV 129.0W TP 21 changed to WHSVD - 129.0W TP 16 (NA)
8347 - WVIR 129.0W TP 21 changed to WVPT - 119.0W TP 03 (NA)
8888 - KUOK - 110.0W TP 25 changed to Available
8977 - KMSG - 110.0W TP 04 changed to Available

Channels in the system: 3064
(A) = Available
(NA) = Not Available
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digiblur
Looks like the test of HGHD at MPEG4 was a success. They remapped it over to the MPEG4 one and killed the map to the MPEG2 one.

The SatelliteGuys.US Uplink Activity Report - 10/18/2006 - 114 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 10/18/2006 12:35P - 10/18/2006 06:05P

6501 - STZHD removed from 129.0W TP 30
6502 - NFLHD removed from 129.0W TP 30
6503 - HGHD removed from 61.5W TP 02
9461 - HGHD moved from 61.5W TP 22 to 61.5W TP 02 (A)
14079 - WCEU2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14080 - WCEU3 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14081 - WCEU4 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14082 - WFTV2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14083 - WKMG2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14084 - WMFE1 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14085 - WMFE2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14096 - KAET2 removed from 110.0W TP 08
14123 - WETA1 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14124 - WETA2 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14125 - WETA3 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14126 - WETA4 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14127 - WNVC2 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14177 - KCWE1 added to 110.0W TP 18 (Not Available)
14178 - KCPT1 added to 110.0W TP 18 (Not Available)
14179 - KCPT2 added to 110.0W TP 18 (Not Available)
14210 - KUED2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14211 - KUED3 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14212 - KBYU3 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14215 - KUEN1 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14216 - KUEN2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14295 - WPRI2 added to 61.5W TP 16 (Not Available)
14301 - WBRA2 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14302 - WBRA5 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14303 - WDBJ2 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14304 - WDBJ3 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14305 - WJPR1 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14355 - KYNE1 added to 110.0W TP 20 (Not Available)
14356 - KYNE2 added to 110.0W TP 20 (Not Available)
14357 - KYNE3 added to 110.0W TP 20 (Not Available)
14358 - KYNE5 added to 110.0W TP 20 (Not Available)
14437 - KELO2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14438 - KCSD1 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14468 - KXNE1 added to 105.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14469 - KXNE2 added to 105.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14470 - KXNE3 added to 105.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14471 - KXNE5 added to 105.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14478 - KDEV2 added to 148.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
14479 - KTNE1 added to 148.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
14480 - KTNE2 added to 148.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
14481 - KTNE3 added to 148.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
14482 - KTNE5 added to 148.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
14489 - KBHE1 added to 148.0W TP 12 (Not Available)
14505 - WPBA1 added to 110.0W TP 20 (Not Available)
14516 - KDEV3 added to 148.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
14517 - KDEV4 added to 148.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
14518 - KDEV5 added to 148.0W TP 21 (Not Available)
14535 - KWGN2 added to 119.0W TP 15 (Not Available)
14582 - WBCC3 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14583 - WBCC4 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14589 - WNAC2 added to 61.5W TP 16 (Not Available)
14601 - KSIN1 added to 105.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14619 - WGCL2 added to 110.0W TP 19 (Not Available)
14620 - WGCL3 added to 110.0W TP 19 (Not Available)
14621 - WTBS2 added to 110.0W TP 20 (Not Available)
14622 - WXIA2 added to 110.0W TP 19 (Not Available)
14650 - WDEF2 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14651 - WFLI2 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14652 - WRCB2 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14653 - WTCI4 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14654 - WTVC2 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14655 - WLWT2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14656 - WPTO3 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14657 - WPTO4 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14658 - WPTO5 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14659 - WPTO6 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14660 - KMIZ2 added to 110.0W TP 26 (Not Available)
14661 - KMIZ3 added to 110.0W TP 26 (Not Available)
14662 - KMIZ4 added to 110.0W TP 26 (Not Available)
14663 - WEAO3 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14666 - WKYC2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14667 - WUAB2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14668 - WVIZ2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14684 - KUSA2 added to 110.0W TP 22 (Not Available)
14700 - KDLT2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14744 - KMOS1 added to 110.0W TP 26 (Not Available)
14745 - KCPT3 added to 110.0W TP 18 (Not Available)
14746 - KCPT4 added to 110.0W TP 18 (Not Available)
14747 - KCTV2 added to 110.0W TP 18 (Not Available)
14748 - KCTV3 added to 110.0W TP 18 (Not Available)
14751 - KOCE1 added to 119.0W TP 01 (Not Available)
14752 - KOCE2 added to 119.0W TP 01 (Not Available)
14753 - KNBC2 added to 119.0W TP 15 (Not Available)
14754 - KVMD2 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14755 - KVMD3 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14810 - WOWT2 added to 110.0W TP 20 (Not Available)
14811 - WBCC2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14812 - WESH2 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14813 - WMFE3 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14814 - WMFE4 added to 110.0W TP 31 (Not Available)
14824 - KNXV2 added to 119.0W TP 05 (Not Available)
14825 - KPHO2 added to 119.0W TP 05 (Not Available)
14826 - KPHO3 added to 119.0W TP 05 (Not Available)
14827 - KPNX2 added to 119.0W TP 05 (Not Available)
14828 - KTVW2 added to 119.0W TP 05 (Not Available)
14829 - KUTP2 added to 119.0W TP 05 (Not Available)
14844 - WJAR2 added to 61.5W TP 16 (Not Available)
14854 - WSET2 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14855 - KBYU4 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14881 - KBYU2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14882 - KSL2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14883 - KSTU2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14884 - KTVX3 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14885 - KUPX2 added to 110.0W TP 23 (Not Available)
14925 - WJLA2 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14926 - WNVT2 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14927 - WRC2 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14928 - WUSA2 added to 110.0W TP 25 (Not Available)
14929 - WVPY2 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)
14930 - WVPY3 added to 119.0W TP 03 (Not Available)

Channels in the system: 3169
(A) = Available
(NA) = Not Available
smokey982
14650 - WDEF2 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14651 - WFLI2 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14652 - WRCB2 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14653 - WTCI4 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)
14654 - WTVC2 added to 110.0W TP 27 (Not Available)

These are the locals in my area. Could someone tell me what these are? We already have SD locals from Dish here.
TNGTony
These are the locals in my area. Could someone tell me what these are? We already have SD locals from Dish here.

They are for the HD OTA EPG. :)

People who receive these local channels via antenna using a 622 or other HD receiver can now see the HD channel and the sub-channel guide in the guide. :)
Hall
They are for the HD OTA EPG.

People who receive these local channels via antenna using a 622 or other HD receiver can now see the HD channel and the sub-channel guide in the guide.
How often is this uplink stuff done ?? Once a week (it seems) or daily or can it vary ??

Can someone compile a list of locals that have gotten their OTA guide data ??

I wonder if they'll try and get this done before the next Charlie Chat ?? Last one they were confused by the question about this and gave a wrong answer.
TNGTony
Hall,

The "big" uplink day is Wednesday usually between 2 and 4 pm eastern time. This is when most channels are made available or new channels are uplinked.

Apart from that there can be activity at any time, but the other "predictable" times
are:

Every morning for NBA, NHL, MLB package channels to align with the proper SKDL channel carrying the game of the day.

Friday/Saturday mornings for the weekend sports alternates and PPV channels
Some Monday mornings to reset the channels back after the weekends sometimes

Thursday early morning for occassional MAJOR overhauling of allignments and testing new things (like MPEG 4 tps, etc).

See ya
Tony
Pepper
Digital locals for Mobile, AL

Can someone compile a list of locals that have gotten their OTA guide data ??
I can provide the ones I know about:

WEAR 03-1 (same as WEAR 7350 ABC)
WEAR 03-2 The Tube music videos
WKRG 05-1 (same as WKRG 7351 CBS)
WKRG 05-2 no data (weather radar)
WALA 10-1 (same as WALA 7353 FOX)
WPMI 15-1 (same as WPMI 7352 NBC)
WPMI 15-2 NBC Weather Plus
WMPV 21-1 no data, no corresponding Dish local channel (TBN)
WSRE 23-1 PBS HD
WSRE 23-2 Pensacola Junior College PBS SD (*not* the same as WSRE 7357. There are errors in the data as provided from station)
WSRE 23-3 Florida Public Affairs
WHBR 33-1 (same as WHBR 7358)
WEIQ 42-1 PBS HD
WEIQ 42-2 Alabama PBS SD (same as WEIQ 7356)
WJTC 44-1 (same as WJTC 7355)
WBPG 55 has no digital station yet (SD is WBPG 7354)
Q
when will euronews be made available to subscribers??? wht could be the charge specially for 61.5???
chevy
Call dishnet and ask them those questions
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Expressway to Your Heart -- The Soul Survivors
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Find A Way To My Heart - Phil Collins
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FIND Your Way Back-Jefferson Starship
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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
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Don't Look Back - Boston
KAB
KAB
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· posted in Movie Talk
Not a bit surprised.

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ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
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Juan
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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dishstaller
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.
Almighty1
Even 23 years ago, Verizon was known for having quality customer service. T-Mobile had quality customer service too but just poor mobile service. AT&T when it was still known as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless both had poor customer service. This was when all three were providing customer service from the U.S. so even in the U.S., some companies are still better than others as it still depends on who they hire. That's the same reason AT&T Broadband Inc. which was basically their Cable TV never gotten far and got sold to Comcast.
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Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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R
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Jimbo
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
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Bobby
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
Jimbo
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
B
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
R
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.
Jimbo
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
Really, you Lucky Dog !

Do you Work for that ISP ? :biggrin
Bobby
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.
So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.
Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.
Jimbo
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.
Ok, your talking in the right of way ...
I thought you were talking about from the ped to the houses.

Fortunately you don't usually get Cable cuts Under a sidewalk, usually its when a Construction crew us digging with major equipment.

The drops to the house are not going to be very deep, sometimes barely under the sod. 6" is a godsend.
osu1991
I'm fortunate to have 3 fiber providers now.

Cox and T mobile bored and put conduit in before pulling the fiber thru the easement in my neighborhood . Windstream Kinetic I can't remember if they pulled conduit first or not. I remember they didn't have a boring machine when they came thru my yard, they used that for the mainline crossing under the street but had a vibratory plow in my backyard. I remember seeing some blue conduit just don't remember where it was being used. Windstream barely put the fiber run from the pedestal to my house about 2 inches underground. Landscaper hit it while putting landscaping around the pedestal they added to my yard. I made sure they buried it at least 12 inches when they replaced it.

AEP/ PSO the electric company has their main distribution lines running on poles along the back of my property. Cox has their main distribution line hung on those poles before going underground through the neighborhood.

I'm in the middle of a damage claim and about to take them to court as insurance is trying to get out of it claiming the lines were too low. Had an oversized load get lost and try to turn around in an older neighborhood. Pulled down 5 blocks of fiber with separate fiber lines belonging to the city, Cox/Spectrum and ATT.
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Bruce
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
AZ.
AZ.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
Bruce
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Bobby
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
AZ.
AZ.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Bruce
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Jimbo
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Bruce
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Two MLB teams.
Jimbo
Two MLB teams.
Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
TRG
TRG
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
I thought you might like that. :biggrin