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Good Afternnon:

First, please forgive any duplications in my many questions below. I had done my best at searching the forums, but have found little info and even less details about some of my questions. I moved from DirecTV and TiVo on Friday to Dish Network and the ViP622. Obviously, coming from the TiVo world, I have many questions/comments. I had two DVRs installed, one 622 and the other the regular DVR. Each DVR has its own TV and is not connected to anything else. So, in the true'st of TiVo fashions, each TV has sole control of both their respective DVR's tuners. Additionally, for this discussion purpose, I have the DVRs in SINGLE Mode (which is what I "think" I would want in this case).

1. I noticed that when my kids turned on the HD DVR's TV the screen was blank and had to turn on the HD DVR. After reading the (poorly developed) manul, I noted the default of "Off after 4 hours of inactivitly" setting and DISABLED this function. I found that turning on the HD DVR was troublesome (after seeing it for the first time) since it asked a couple of questions when the DVR was turned back on (seems like it was something about mapping the remote - perhaps not). Regardless, I do not understand why the DVR would ever need to power "off" or go into standby. However I did see several post mentioing a software release and installing only after the DVR has powered off. Can someone detail why I should or should not allow the DVR to power off and what screens I shuold expect when I power back on should it turn off.

2. I noticed that unlike TiVo, I was unable to pause one tuner, switch to the other, and then return back to the paused tuner - and it still be paused. Apparently, when you switch tuners the tuner you are leaving, if paused, will return/jump to "live" TV. This is very Un-TiVo like, since I have gotten very used to watching two live programs at once. I did note that a work around would be to pause the tuner, open my PiP, swap, and tune into the new channel I want to watch. With PiP open I am able to pause each tuner. Am I missing something in my setup, or it this a function I will have to get used to. One would think that if it can pause two tuners at once (with PiP open), you can pause two tuners with PiP closed.

3. I noticed that since I have my local channel guide priority set to HD, my channel guide lists the HD in the "station number area" (for me - Washington DC -channels 4,5,7 and 9). Likewise, my OTA channels also reside in this area. As such, my guide will show two each of the local channels - all of which come in great. Additionally, I noted that my local channels also show up in the 8000 area as well as the 6000 area. Can anyone explain the reasoning for so many additional listings for the same local channels?

4. I have read in this forum that my 622 HD DVR can record via three tuners - one each of the HD tuners as well as the OTA channels. Can someone explain this. Am I to assume that you can record two programs as well as watch/record a third on any of the "yellow" channels listed in the guide??

I know this is alot to ask, however any assistance anyone can provide is greatly appreciated!!
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RND (a.k.a Okypinoky)
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1. If you dont allow your receiver to go into standby, it wont download the software or program Guide updates. They generally get sent at 3 am (there's a setting for the time and option enabled, some turn this off because some software updates cause more issues than they solve). .
2. I too noticed this - sounds like an engancement request.
3. The HD locals and the same locals in SD, hence what appears as duplication.
4. That is my understanding but i dont have OTA.
ChetK
I have read in this forum that my 622 HD DVR can record via three tuners - one each of the HD tuners as well as the OTA channels. Can someone explain this. Am I to assume that you can record two programs as well as watch/record a third on any of the "yellow" channels listed in the guide??

You can record from 3 tuners and even watch a recording all at the same time. You have 2 sat tuners and 1 OTA tuner so you are limited in those regards.

Some others will chime in and tell you that you can record from three tuners and watch 2 shows if in dual mode, but I have not attempted it as I have never used dual mode.
toddjb
Clearly a workaround, but regarding #2 above, can you just record both shows you want to watch? when you switch back and forth then, it will hopefully remember where you left off.

I'm lurking as I'm thinking of calling Dish and making the jump to the 622. (have a 501 and a 508 now)
R
Another recent discussion concerning the #2 issue.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=80684
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Clearly a workaround, but regarding #2 above, can you just record both shows you want to watch? when you switch back and forth then, it will hopefully remember where you left off.

I'm lurking as I'm thinking of calling Dish and making the jump to the 622. (have a 501 and a 508 now)

recording it wont make it behave differently, i dont belive, basically doing PIP window close cancel's the pause and hit's the live

BTW Did a bit more experimenting the pause does work until you close the PIP window, so you can pause it whilst you look at the other tuner.

i.e pause - PIP - -Swap - (pause still heldfor tuner 1) -pause PIP swap (now both are paused and you can watch and swicth as you wish. However as soon as you close the PIP window it will lose the pause.
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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osu1991
$3.55
R
$3.45 in Jane, MO.
Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Expressway to Your Heart -- The Soul Survivors
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Find A Way To My Heart - Phil Collins
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FIND Your Way Back-Jefferson Starship
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ClarkGable
Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
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KAB
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Not a bit surprised.

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ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
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Juan
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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dishstaller
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.
Almighty1
Even 23 years ago, Verizon was known for having quality customer service. T-Mobile had quality customer service too but just poor mobile service. AT&T when it was still known as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless both had poor customer service. This was when all three were providing customer service from the U.S. so even in the U.S., some companies are still better than others as it still depends on who they hire. That's the same reason AT&T Broadband Inc. which was basically their Cable TV never gotten far and got sold to Comcast.
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Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Jimbo
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
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Bobby
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
Jimbo
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
B
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
R
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.
Jimbo
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
Really, you Lucky Dog !

Do you Work for that ISP ? :biggrin
Bobby
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.
So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.
Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.
Jimbo
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.
Ok, your talking in the right of way ...
I thought you were talking about from the ped to the houses.

Fortunately you don't usually get Cable cuts Under a sidewalk, usually its when a Construction crew us digging with major equipment.

The drops to the house are not going to be very deep, sometimes barely under the sod. 6" is a godsend.
osu1991
I'm fortunate to have 3 fiber providers now.

Cox and T mobile bored and put conduit in before pulling the fiber thru the easement in my neighborhood . Windstream Kinetic I can't remember if they pulled conduit first or not. I remember they didn't have a boring machine when they came thru my yard, they used that for the mainline crossing under the street but had a vibratory plow in my backyard. I remember seeing some blue conduit just don't remember where it was being used. Windstream barely put the fiber run from the pedestal to my house about 2 inches underground. Landscaper hit it while putting landscaping around the pedestal they added to my yard. I made sure they buried it at least 12 inches when they replaced it.

AEP/ PSO the electric company has their main distribution lines running on poles along the back of my property. Cox has their main distribution line hung on those poles before going underground through the neighborhood.

I'm in the middle of a damage claim and about to take them to court as insurance is trying to get out of it claiming the lines were too low. Had an oversized load get lost and try to turn around in an older neighborhood. Pulled down 5 blocks of fiber with separate fiber lines belonging to the city, Cox/Spectrum and ATT.
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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long_time_Dish
It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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