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mdvigil

Last reply Oct 31, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DVR 625 + HD Antenna = Will it work?

OK, new to the site, so forgive me if this is the wrong place. I have a DVR-625, and just hooked up a TV with HDTV Tuner onboard as TV2. Just wondering if there is a way to hook up an HD antenna with a diplexer between the TV and the cable (625) so I can gain access to local HD programming (Folsom/Sacramento, CA). I've been told this is doable with modification in the system setup menu, but have been unable to locate. Preliminary tests with setting it up like that yielded very poor results. Attenuated signal, I think, but as a side note, the $14.00 HD antenna from Home Depot, did not work too well when hooked directly up to the TV. HELP!

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jjnemoiii

Oct 31, 2006

First, it sounds like you have antenna problems.. Have you checked antennaweb.org yet? If not, what is your zip code? Link below, will let you switch between your 625 receiver and antenna. Other much cheaper versions, $5.00 or so, would have a switch at the TV for this.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2049643&cp=2032057&f=Taxonomy%2FRSK%2F2032057&categoryId=2032057&kwCatId=2032057&kw=antenna+switch&parentPage=search

JohnL

Oct 31, 2006

mdvigil said:
OK, new to the site, so forgive me if this is the wrong place. I have a DVR-625, and just hooked up a TV with HDTV Tuner onboard as TV2. Just wondering if there is a way to hook up an HD antenna with a diplexer between the TV and the cable (625) so I can gain access to local HD programming (Folsom/Sacramento, CA). I've been told this is doable with modification in the system setup menu, but have been unable to locate. Preliminary tests with setting it up like that yielded very poor results. Attenuated signal, I think, but as a side note, the $14.00 HD antenna from Home Depot, did not work too well when hooked directly up to the TV. HELP!

Mdvigil,

First off, there is NO SUCH thing as a HD TV Antenna. Any Antenna can receive HD as long as the antenna is designed for receiving the appropriate signals (UHF or VHF or a combined VHF/UHF Antenna).

If you have a 625 and NOT a 622 then you will NOT get any HD channels from the 625 as that receiver is NOT capable of receiving HD or have a ATSC Digital tuner.

The 625 is a SD only receiver WITHOUT A OTA TUNER, a VIP622 is Dish's ONLY HD MPEG4 receiver.

The VIP622 is only one of TWO Dish DVR's that can tune ANY OTA (942 and 622). The Model 5000 with additional tuner cartridge that can tune ANALOG OTA, Model 6000 with Tuner Cartridge or Model 6000U and Model 811 can tune either ANALOG SD and HD OTA, Model 942 can tune both ANALOG AND DIGITAL OTA, Model 211, 411 and 622 can only tune DIGITAL OTA.

If you have a 622 and connected a TV or HD TV to the output for TV2 it is SD ONLY and you can't receive any OTA LIVE feeds on the TV2 output from the 622.

If you only want to get both the output of the 625 and your local HD OTA Antenna feed then you only need a Splitter/Combiner to combine the Two into one cable that runs to your HDTV. Remember to pick the appropriate Modulated OTA Channel for the TV2 output of the 625 that is several channel assignments away from the actual Channel assignments of all of your OTA Frequencies.

John

DVDDAD

Oct 31, 2006

You can use a diplexor and combine the satellite and OTA antenna feeds, but when you do you will give up some quality in the signal. If you are having problems, run a separate line and buy the right antenna. You will be hooking the antenna directly to the TV and will not be able to record any of the OTA HDTV programs on the 625. Why don't you get a 622, so that you could also DVR the HD OTA programs?

jjnemoiii

Oct 31, 2006

John, I think he means the Hd tuner is in his TV, and wants to switch between SD from his 625, and HD OTA tuned by his TV. Being a newbie, he probably bought one of the many Tv antennas out there that are labeled by the maker as an HDTV antenna, no matter what the facts. Some people, close enough to the transmitters, have used a paper clip for their antenna, so someone could then sell them as a box of HDTV antenna's. All of his local HD channels are on UHF, so any UHF antenna good enough to get his stations will work.

mdvigil

Oct 31, 2006

Holy Cow! What language do you guys speak anyway. Go a little slower, I am one of those guys Kerry says will get stuck in Iraq (read: military without the Yale or Harvard degree, and no silver spoon either). Anywho, I do copy much of what you guys are saying. JJ is exactly right. I was a little tight on the facts, and yes, I'm trying to do it the cheap way. JohnL you're probably right, but I will have to check a couple of my acronym converters and some other reference books to decipher what you said, and finally DVDDad, you are probably the most correct. I should probably just buck up the $99.00, get the VIP 622, HD Silver or Gold, with installation included and be done with it. The problem solver in me, however, has me on a wild goose chase.

I understand the 625 is not capable of HD functionality, but in talking to one of my buddies, he indicated that he had placed a diplexer between the cable box + an antenna going to the HD Tuner enabled TV. Result was local HD channels. I really don't have the time or the need for much more than that right now, nor do I need the recordability afforded by the 622, but that is quite attractive. Anyway, just wanted to see if it was a viable option. I am not willing to sacrifice the fidelity that the HDTV could provide, but then why did I need an HDTV tuner in my TV if I could have gotten a better contrast ratio with an HDTV "ready" monitor? Anyway, that's a tangential issue, not seriously relevant here.

Bottom line, sounds like I need a better UHF antenna estimate $40 or so (thanks JJ), maybe that switcher too $36.99 (thanks again JJ), which will put me at about $76.00. Add in about $100-200 for my heartache and trouble, and I think the result is - I should just get the 622 and be done with it (thanks DVDDad).

Thanks to all of you for your lightning fast posts. Happy Halloween! Best regards, V.

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Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
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$3.55

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$3.45 in Jane, MO.

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Regular$5.299
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Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

15 minutes ago

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Another example:

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Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:38 PM

https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 6:52 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.

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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 1:09 PM

In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:19 PM

reubenray said:
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.

Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 6:25 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 7:25 PM

Bobby said:
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.

I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...

brice52

Yesterday at 7:39 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches

reubenray

Yesterday at 7:41 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden.

My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 7:42 PM

brice52 said:
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches

Really, you Lucky Dog !

Do you Work for that ISP ? :biggrin

Bobby

Yesterday at 8:49 PM

Jimbo said:
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...

I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Jimbo said:
So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:20 PM

Bobby said:
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.

Ok, your talking in the right of way ...
I thought you were talking about from the ped to the houses.

Fortunately you don't usually get Cable cuts Under a sidewalk, usually its when a Construction crew us digging with major equipment.

The drops to the house are not going to be very deep, sometimes barely under the sod. 6" is a godsend.

osu1991

Yesterday at 10:48 PM

I'm fortunate to have 3 fiber providers now.

Cox and T mobile bored and put conduit in before pulling the fiber thru the easement in my neighborhood . Windstream Kinetic I can't remember if they pulled conduit first or not. I remember they didn't have a boring machine when they came thru my yard, they used that for the mainline crossing under the street but had a vibratory plow in my backyard. I remember seeing some blue conduit just don't remember where it was being used. Windstream barely put the fiber run from the pedestal to my house about 2 inches underground. Landscaper hit it while putting landscaping around the pedestal they added to my yard. I made sure they buried it at least 12 inches when they replaced it.

AEP/ PSO the electric company has their main distribution lines running on poles along the back of my property. Cox has their main distribution line hung on those poles before going underground through the neighborhood.

I'm in the middle of a damage claim and about to take them to court as insurance is trying to get out of it claiming the lines were too low. Had an oversized load get lost and try to turn around in an older neighborhood. Pulled down 5 blocks of fiber with separate fiber lines belonging to the city, Cox/Spectrum and ATT.

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Last reply Yesterday at 9:22 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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