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Last reply Nov 20, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Will EchoStar Carry Al-Jazeera HD?

http://www.tvpredictions.com/echoarab110206.htm

The news network says one satellite provider has agreed to carry the new channel.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (November 2, 2006) -- Al-Jazeera, the controversial Arabic news network, will launch an English-speaking High-Definition TV channel on November 15.

The company will also unveil a non-HD version of the channel on that day. An Al-Jazeera spokeswoman tells The Associated Press that at least one cable company and one satellite TV operator have agreed to carry the new channel.

She did not specify whether the two TV providers would carry both the HD and non-HD versions, nor did she name the providers. The spokeswoman said the names would be revealed closer to the November 15 launch date.

However, EchoStar's Dish Network, the nation's second leading satcaster, now offers the Arabic-speaking Al-Jazeera. (DIRECTV does not.) In addition, EchoStar now has 30 national high-def channels, more than any other TV provider.

Asked yesterday if Dish would carry the English-speaking Al-Jazeera, an EchoStar spokeswoman said: "We don't have an announcement planned at this time."

Al-Jazeera has aired interviews with Osama Bin-Laden.

Comcast yesterday denied that it would add Al-Jazeera to its lineup.

If a major U.S. TV operator decides to carry the English-speaking Al-Jazeera, it's guaranteed to generate some controversy.

Al-Jazeera, which is broadcast through the Arab world, has been often criticized by U.S. leaders for allegedly siding with the terrorists. The network has broadcast numerous exclusive interviews with Al-Qaeda leaders, including Osama Bin Laden.

However, Al-Jazeera officials say they are simply reporting both sides of the conflict. Yesterday, they told the AP that they hope that U.S. officials will see the English-speaking network as a conduit to the Arab world.

"We have an edge over the other networks: We're already based in the Middle East. And we have a different perspective," director Wadah Khanfar said.

The English-speaking Al-Jazeera will be a 24-hour network available to at least 40 million households worldwide.

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wtb955

Nov 2, 2006

You must be joking! I can probably count on one hand how many people will watch this biased, total waste of bandwith, channel! Hell, why add another useless channel when we have so many now.

ZawNH-VT

Nov 11, 2006

wtb955 said:
You must be joking! I can probably count on one hand how many people will watch this biased, total waste of bandwith, channel! Hell, why add another useless channel when we have so many now.

So, you watched the channel before or just the clip aired on CNN and Fox?? Is that how you know its bias?
You don't think Fox News is bias or cnn is?
You don't think US History book is non bias?
Or you just don't care about anybody think?

Its on T5 I saw their preview yesterday. That must be satellite provider they were talking about. So don't worry it won't show up. I'd be susprise if a lot of people will start order FTA system because of this. More business for most of us here.

Actully their English version of their newspaper was a hit through out Europe. Channel make popular from your favorite news networks.

wtb955

Nov 11, 2006

ZawNH-VT said:
So, you watched the channel before or just the clip aired on CNN and Fox?? Is that how you know its bias?
You don't think Fox News is bias or cnn is?
You don't think US History book is non bias?
Or you just don't care about anybody think?

I hate to not give you an easy out on this one but, yes I have watched this channel many times. I have traveled and stayed extensively in Europe and the Middle East so I think I have a fair idea of what I'm talking about. As for Bias, there is always a certain amount of it built into any media. It is our job as readers and viewers to separate fact from fiction and make informed decisions. After watching homicide bombings, beheadings, and people celebrating the death of Americans and Westerners, with no reciprocal positive coverage, on Al Jazeera's 6:00 PM news cycle, you cannot convince me they do not have an agenda against us. If you feel differently, I challenge you to travel to the Middle East and loudly proclaim your American heritage and see how you fare; Good Luck!

aboali

Nov 11, 2006

wtb955 said:
I hate to not give you an easy out on this one but, yes I have watched this channel many times. I have traveled and stayed extensively in Europe and the Middle East so I think I have a fair idea of what I'm talking about. As for Bias, there is always a certain amount of it built into any media. It is our job as readers and viewers to separate fact from fiction and make informed decisions. After watching homicide bombings, beheadings, and people celebrating the death of Americans and Westerners, with no reciprocal positive coverage, on Al Jazeera's 6:00 PM news cycle, you cannot convince me they do not have an agenda against us. If you feel differently, I challenge you to travel to the Middle East and loudly proclaim your American heritage and see how you fare; Good Luck! :

lol im american and i have lived in saudi arabia and i was there this summer, i have many friends there arabs and americans, nobody has ever treated me badly, actually one of my friends got out of some trouble with the law just because he was American. also one of my saudi friends that studied in america went to egypt last summer and told people there that his name was will and told every one he was american, he ended up getting in for free to every were he went, even to places that he usually wouldn't have been able to get into because they only allow couples in. so dont just assume things please, maybi you had some bad experiences, maybe your just paranoid i dont know, but i know one thing for sure and that is that you are wrong.

back to aljazeera
whats wrong with them showing people celebrating the death of Americans its not like they are organizing the event, the celebration is gonna happen with or without aljazeera there, just like a guy parade or anything like that if your intrested watch it if your not switch the channel.

i think the reason that some Americans are afraid of aljazeera might be becouse they are afraid of reality, we are so use to watching watered down stories of the truth that we are afraid of what is really happening.

an example of what aljazeera is great at and nobody else does as good is something that happened when i was in saudi, as soon as alzaqawi was killed they rushed to his brothers house and interviewed him live on tv, as they were doing the interview the police showed up and arrested alzarqawis brother and took aljazeeras cameras, no other news channel or news paper reported the arrest, if we didnt have aljazeera no one would even had known what happened to the man.

wtb955

Nov 11, 2006

aboali said:
lol im american and i have lived in saudi arabia and i was there this summer, i have many friends there arabs and americans, nobody has ever treated me badly, actually one of my friends got out of some trouble with the law just because he was American. also one of my saudi friends that studied in america went to egypt last summer and told people there that his name was will and told every one he was american, he ended up getting in for free to every were he went, even to places that he usually wouldn't have been able to get into because they only allow couples in. so dont just assume things please, maybi you had some bad experiences, maybe your just paranoid i dont know, but i know one thing for sure and that is that you are wrong.

back to aljazeera
whats wrong with them showing people celebrating the death of Americans its not like they are organizing the event, the celebration is gonna happen with or without aljazeera there, just like a guy parade or anything like that if your intrested watch it if your not switch the channel.

i think the reason that some Americans are afraid of aljazeera might be becouse they are afraid of reality, we are so use to watching watered down stories of the truth that we are afraid of what is really happening.

an example of what aljazeera is great at and nobody else does as good is something that happened when i was in saudi, as soon as alzaqawi was killed they rushed to his brothers house and interviewed him live on tv, as they were doing the interview the police showed up and arrested alzarqawis brother and took aljazeeras cameras, no other news channel or news paper reported the arrest, if we didnt have aljazeera no one would even had known what happened to the man.

Yep, I can tell you're an American. Don't drink too much Kool-Aid!

salsadancer7

Nov 12, 2006

wtb955 said:
Yep, I can tell you're an American. Don't drink too much Kool-Aid! :

Geez....get a grip.....don't you think that DISH has a done a little homework...or do you think they are going into this blindly? Give them SOME credit. IF they add it here in the US, to your service....if you don't like it, don't watch it.....period. Stop over analyzing things. You have HBO, SHOWTIME, STARZ and CINEMAX that has ALOT more sex and violence than Al-Jazeera will ever show....and when you don't like those show...what do you do? You change it right? And what says you can't do the same with THIS channel?

And not to put PIT-LIKE comments here but since when did disagreeing with you make you un-American or unpatriotic??

wtb955

Nov 12, 2006

salsadancer7 said:
Geez....get a grip.....don't you think that DISH has a done a little homework...or do you think they are going into this blindly? Give them SOME credit. IF they add it here in the US, to your service....if you don't like it, don't watch it.....period. Stop over analyzing things. You have HBO, SHOWTIME, STARZ and CINEMAX that has ALOT more sex and violence than Al-Jazeera will ever show....and when you don't like those show...what do you do? You change it right? And what says you can't do the same with THIS channel?

And not to put PIT-LIKE comments here but since when did disagreeing with you make you un-American or unpatriotic??

If Dish is considering adding Al Jazeera to its' international lineup then, no, they haven't thought it out; enough said. As for challenging someone's patriotism, please tell me in what post I did that. What I am calling into question is peoples' complicity in not squarely face issues and offering only excuses for barbaric actions and stances. Political Correctness will only get you so far. At some point a problem must be confronted and dealt with; just ask Neville Chamberlain. I don't agree with your position, but I respect your right to hold it. And you should thank the men and women, past and present, of our United States armed forces for that right! :smug

Sapient

Nov 14, 2006

wtb955 said:
What I am calling into question is peoples' complicity in not squarely face issues and offering only excuses for barbaric actions and stances. Political Correctness will only get you so far.

No one is defending barbaric actions. We are pointing out the difference between participating in those actions and reporting on them. There is nothing patriotic about pretending no one celebrates when American die.

Your suggestion that Hitler would have just gone away if only Neville Chamberlain had insisted that no news outlets report on what was happening is absurd. Ignorance does not make you stronger.

Posty-McPOst

Nov 14, 2006

Sapient said:
Your suggestion that Hitler would have just gone away if only Neville Chamberlain had insisted that no news outlets report on what was happening is absurd. Ignorance does not make you stronger.

That's exactly what the Bush administration thinks. No casket pictures, no freedom of the press in Iraq and years of deceiving and lying to the domestic press (and people). There is nothing patriotic about this unjust war in Iraq. Keep in mind none of us argue against the war in Afghanistan (except those of us who think the 140,000 troops in Iraq should have been sent to Afghanistan instead). We love this country and felt as much pain as anyone when we were attacked. But that has never had anything to do with Iraq or Al Jazeera. If you can't sort out these complex dilemmas then maybe you should keep your thoughts to yourself. Also your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore.

moss

Nov 20, 2006

I've never watched Al Jazeera. The only clips I have ever seen from Al Jazeera are the ones the US networks carry of a group of radical islamic terrorists holding a kidnapped American(s) on their knees blindfolded. A terrorist is usually reading a long statement about the destruction of the west or Israel and then they saw off the kidnapped victim's head. Or I remember the clip of dead American soldiers being dragged thru the streets of some city while the citizens cheer the deaths. Or similar such clips. So my view is tainted by an Al Jazeera that provides a media outlet that in my view enables the terrorists to get their message of terror out. I never saw any clips from Al Jazeera concerning the murderous reign of Saddam and his sons or what I believe to be the evil tyranny of the Talaban, but like I said I have never really watched the channel other than the clips I've seen on the US networks. My opinion is that I will still get the clips of Al Jazeera promoting the message of terror no matter if DISH carries the network of not. I will not pay for the channel and if it were to become a part of the HD Platinium package that I pay for I would leave DISH. Also I believe the prior poster's comment on Neville Chamberlain was of course a comment on Chamberlain holding the view that the evil of the Nazi's could be contained with a treaty. A grave mistake. My opinion would agree with the prior poster that we are in a similar situation in America today, one view that holds that we can contain the murderous terror of radical islamists by "treaty" or agreement; the other view held by President Bush and his administration is that it must be met with military force. Since you stated your opinion Posty-McPost I'll state mine, there was nothing "just" about the Talaban or Saddam. And my conversations with soldiers that have actually been to Iraq and returned is that the people of Iraq are extremely thankful for our military assistance. Radical islamists and the nations that support them are the ones proclaiming the unjustness of the war in Iraq.

wtb955

Nov 20, 2006

Sapient said:
No one is defending barbaric actions. We are pointing out the difference between participating in those actions and reporting on them. There is nothing patriotic about pretending no one celebrates when American die.

Your suggestion that Hitler would have just gone away if only Neville Chamberlain had insisted that no news outlets report on what was happening is absurd. Ignorance does not make you stronger.

You call me ignorant? Neville Chamberlain never insisted we simply ignore Germany so they would go away. His policy, and by default England's, was one of rationalization, appeasement and concessions. Too bad it took several million dead human beings to figure out that the policy was wrong. To appease a situation by ignoring it or rationalizing actions and views is paramount to endorsing it! Furthermore, Al Jazeera is participating in these zealots' actions. Their newscasts, interviews and the positions they take show that. Use the damn web to do a little research before calling me ignorant! As I've said, at some point people need to wake up and realize that by turning a blind eye to something and calling it "reporting" or a "different" point of view is only furthering the chaos! I've had enough of appeasement; I want someone to fix the problem. And to do that, tough choices need to be made. The first of which is facing up to the problem. There have been enough Americans coming home in body bags. And remember this, not all of those body bags contained soiders; many of them were just ordinary people who wanted to live a quiet, normal life and had the misfortune to run into "foaming at the mouth" American haters.

Tom Bombadil

Nov 20, 2006

Once again, Al Jazeera is not the enemy. It is not owned or operated by terrorist forces.

Al Jazeera is an independent Arab news channel. It is based in Qatar, which is an ally of the United States. Qatar was one of the primary launch bases used by the USA for the Iraq invasion. The US Central Command (CENTCOM) has its headquarters there.

Many of Al Jazeera's staff used to work for the BBC's Arabic Language service before that was shut down.

8 of the 24 hours a day of Al Jazeera's broadcasting comes from London and Washington DC.

Post after post here has implied that Al Jazeera is associated with Al Qaeda, but there is no evidence of this. Was it associated with the Taliban? No. With Saddam? No.

Is there a pro-Arab, anti-US bias to their reporting? Probably so. No surprise there. An anti-US bias would probably be present from nearly every news channel from every non-US country in the world.

It strikes me as odd that the USA has troops in Iraq and Afghanistan with the purpose being to turn those countries over to democratically-elected Arab/local governments. However we are apparently against a free Arab press and consider it near traitorous to broadcast that free press into our country.

Of course there are many in this country who don't respect our own freedom of the press, so this doesn't surprise me. Just today I heard that a string of motels/hotels pulled CNN from its TV channels because CNN dared to air some video that showed Iraqi insurgents shooting at US solders, as if to show this video was abetting terrorism and unpatriotic. I guess before seeing this video, the American public was supposed to think that the insurgents were only hurling words at the solders.

Sapient

Nov 20, 2006

wtb955 said:
You call me ignorant? Neville Chamberlain never insisted we simply ignore Germany so they would go away.

Your argument has always been that seeing what is happening in the world makes us weaker. Your attempt to use Chamberlain as an example is just standared knee jerk misreading of history.

But, hell, even if your racially charged paranoia turned out to be accurate, we are STILL better off listening in. What ever rationalization you are using, you are still favoring ignorance over knowledge.

wtb955 said:
Use the damn web to do a little research before calling me ignorant!

Yes, the mark of a well informed person is the need for someone else to find evidence to support his claims.

wtb955 said:
As I've said, at some point people need to wake up and realize that by turning a blind eye to something and calling it "reporting" or a "different" point of view is only furthering the chaos! I've had enough of appeasement; I want someone to fix the problem. And to do that, tough choices need to be made. The first of which is facing up to the problem. There have been enough Americans coming home in body bags. And remember this, not all of those body bags contained soiders; many of them were just ordinary people who wanted to live a quiet, normal life and had the misfortune to run into "foaming at the mouth" American haters. :

Sorry, but Americans, and others, are dying precisely because certain people refuse to distinguish between real threats and race based paranoia. How many troops are you going to send to their deaths to stop this terrible treat from Al Jazeera? How many Americans have to die before you will put some thought into your beliefs? HOw much help do you have to give the terrorists before you are satisfied?

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Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

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Bobby

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at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

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Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

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dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

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sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 6:52 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.

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Almighty1

Today at 5:30 AM

Even 23 years ago, Verizon was known for having quality customer service. T-Mobile had quality customer service too but just poor mobile service. AT&T when it was still known as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless both had poor customer service. This was when all three were providing customer service from the U.S. so even in the U.S., some companies are still better than others as it still depends on who they hire. That's the same reason AT&T Broadband Inc. which was basically their Cable TV never gotten far and got sold to Comcast.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:26 AM

dishstaller said:
And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies

I wouldn't call it incompetence necessarily, it's just that the customer is only a device now, the old idea that you need to spend money to make money has been forgotten. They're not looking at the long game. They're looking at immediate exposure and shareholder value. Spending a lot of money on local call centers might be a good long term investment, but it doesn't do anything for them in the short term. That's what the blank stares were about, they thought YOU didn't get it.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:27 AM

Juan said:
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.

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