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Need help - can't get locked on to a satellite. I have a Coolsat 6000 premium receiver, a Stab HH90 DisEqC 1.2 rotor, a FortecStar FC-90 dish and a InVacom Quad Polar 40mm horn LNB. My zip code is 55912. I've been trying to lock in on satellite IA 5 97.0 W using the motorized setting with the following settings:
Frequency (1) 11,749
DiSEqc motor USALS
Move Stop
Limit Motor control
Sat. Degree 097.0 W
Antenna Position 093.0 W/ 043.7 N
The best I an get is a Level in red of 87% and Quality of 6 - 8 % using a dish elevation of 34 degrees.
I also tried connecting the antenna wire directly to the LNB and then moving the whole unit oin the pole and changing the dish elevation gradually from 34 up to 40which then reduced the Level to the 70's.
Should I be receiving some sound on the TV? I am not getting any sound.
I checked the pole yesterday and it is perfectly straight up and down.
Sure would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. Dick
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Need help - can't get locked on to a satellite. I have a Coolsat 6000 premium receiver, a Stab HH90 DiSEqC 1.2 rotor, a Fortec Star FC-90 dish and a Invacom Quad Polar 40mm horn LNB. My zip code is 55912. Been trying to lock in on satellite IA 5 97.0W using the motorized setting with the following:
Frequency (1) 11,749
DiSEqC Motor USALS
Move Stop
Limit Motor control
Sat. Degree 097.0 W
The best I can get is a Level in red of 87% and Quality of 6 - 8 % using a dish elevation of 34 degrees.
I also tried connecting the antenna wire directly to the LNB and then moving the whole unit on the pole and changing the dish elevation gradually from 34 up to 40 which then reduced the Level to the 70's.
Should I be receiving some sound on the TV? I am not getting any sound.
I checked the pole yesterday and it is perfectly straight up and down.
Sure would appreciate any suggestions and a confirmation of my setting on the installation menu. Thanks, Dick
updatelee
if your aiming your motor for the first time you should aim the motor at true south, in this case 93.0w which is bang on with IA6 93.0w :)

http://ftalist.com/ia6.htm

will give you an idea of whats on that bird. From there as long as your motor elev and dish elev are set by the book and your pole is 100% plumb, you should be able to tweak in the outer arcs.
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Is this your first time setting up everything? If so, first thing to do is make sure your pole is level, both n/s and e/w - an unlevel (plumb) pole is bad news for if you have a motor. Next thing is to aim for true south, and mentioned. Before you do that though, make sure you have a good tp entered in to your fta box and can scan it in. Some advise that you should try to set up dish without motor at first so that you can get an idea of where the true south bird is, and then mark on the pole and the dish so that you know where to put the motor when you get it on... then it's just a matter of setting up the elevation on motor and dish since you should be lined up on azimuth.

Also, double check your elevations settings with what your manual(s) say they should be.
PSB
PSB
I would try to find the satellite without the motor first, see below for all angles to the satellites from your area...........


make sure your L.O. is set to 10750 and just use one Linear output for now.

Code:
                       Austin, MN 55912
         Latitude 43° 40.170'N Longitude 92° 58.704'W

                       Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m)   El  Skew
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                   Intelsat 901   18.0W 100.5  99.3  2.1 -45.3
                               
                          NSS 7   22.0W 103.4 102.2  5.0 -44.7
                               
                   Intelsat 905   24.5W 105.2 104.0  6.7 -44.3
                               
                   Intelsat 907   27.5W 107.5 106.3  8.9 -43.6
                               
                  Hispasat 1C/D   30.0W 109.4 108.2 10.6 -43.0
                               
                   Intelsat 801   31.5W 110.6 109.4 11.7 -42.6
                               
                   Intelsat 903   34.5W 113.0 111.7 13.8 -41.8
                               
                    AMC 12/T 11   37.5W 115.4 114.2 15.8 -40.8
                               
                        NSS 806   40.5W 117.9 116.7 17.9 -39.7
                               
                      Pas 3R/6B   43.0W 120.1 118.9 19.5 -38.7
                               
                         Pas 1R   45.0W 121.9 120.7 20.8 -37.9
                               
                   Intelsat 705   50.0W 126.5 125.3 24.0 -35.5
                               
                   Intelsat 707   53.0W 129.5 128.3 25.8 -33.9
                               
                   Intelsat 805   55.5W 132.0 130.8 27.3 -32.5
                               
                          Pas 9   58.0W 134.6 133.4 28.7 -31.0
                               
                       Amazonas   61.0W 137.9 136.7 30.3 -29.0
                               
                     EchoStar 3   61.5W 138.4 137.2 30.6 -28.7
                               
                      Rainbow 1   61.5W 138.4 137.2 30.6 -28.7
                               
               Estrela do Sul 1   63.0W 140.1 138.9 31.4 -27.6
                               
                   Brasilsat B2   65.0W 142.4 141.2 32.4 -26.2
                               
                   Brasilsat B1   70.0W 148.4 147.2 34.6 -22.2
                               
                       Nahuel 1   71.8W 150.7 149.5 35.3 -20.7
                               
                      DirecTV 1   72.5W 151.6 150.4 35.6 -20.1
                               
                          AMC 6   72.0W 151.0 149.8 35.4 -20.6
                               
                          SBS 6   74.0W 153.5 152.3 36.1 -18.8
                               
                     Echostar 4   77.0W 157.5 156.3 37.1 -16.1
                               
                          AMC 5   79.0W 160.2 159.0 37.7 -14.2
                               
                      Nimiq 2/3   82.0W 164.3 163.1 38.4 -11.3
                               
                          AMC-9   83.0W 165.7 164.5 38.6 -10.3
                               
                   Brasilsat B3   84.0W 167.1 165.9 38.8  -9.3
                               
                          AMC 2   85.0W 168.5 167.3 39.0  -8.3
                               
                          AMC 3   87.0W 171.4 170.2 39.3  -6.2
                               
                           IA-8   89.0W 174.2 173.0 39.5  -4.2
                               
                      Galaxy 11   91.0W 177.1 175.9 39.6  -2.1
                               
                     Nimiq 1/4i   91.0W 177.1 175.9 39.6  -2.1
                               
                   Brasilsat B4   92.0W 178.6 177.4 39.6  -1.0
                               
                      Telstar 6   93.0W 180.0 178.8 39.6   0.0
                               
                      Galaxy 3C   95.0W 182.9 181.7 39.6   2.1
                               
                      Telstar 5   97.0W 185.8 184.6 39.5   4.2
                               
                      Galaxy 4R   99.0W 188.7 187.5 39.3   6.3
                               
                     Spaceway 2   99.2W 189.0 187.8 39.3   6.5
                               
                DirecTV 1R/4S/8  101.0W 191.5 190.3 39.0   8.3
                               
                          AMC 4  101.0W 191.5 190.3 39.0   8.3
                               
                     Spaceway 1  103.0W 194.4 193.2 38.6  10.3
                               
                          AMC 1  103.0W 194.4 193.2 38.6  10.3
                               
                         AMC 15  105.0W 197.1 195.9 38.2  12.3
                               
                      Anik F1/R  107.3W 200.3 199.1 37.6  14.5
                               
                      DirecTV 5  109.5W 203.2 202.0 37.0  16.6
                               
                EchoStar 6/8/10  110.0W 203.9 202.7 36.8  17.0
                               
                        Anik F2  111.1W 205.4 204.2 36.4  18.0
                               
                  Solidaridad 2  113.0W 207.8 206.6 35.8  19.7
                               
                       SatMex 5  116.8W 212.6 211.4 34.2  22.9
                               
                     DirecTV 7s  119.0W 215.3 214.1 33.3  24.7
                               
                     EchoStar 7  119.0W 215.3 214.1 33.3  24.7
                               
          EchoStar 9/Telstar 13  121.0W 217.6 216.4 32.3  26.2
                               
                     Galaxy 10R  123.0W 219.9 218.7 31.4  27.7
                               
                      Galaxy 14  125.0W 222.2 221.0 30.3  29.1
                               
                  Galaxy 13/H 1  127.0W 224.4 223.1 29.3  30.4
                               
 Intelsat Americas 7/Echostar 5  129.0W 226.5 225.3 28.1  31.6
                               
                         AMC 11  131.0W 228.6 227.3 27.0  32.8
                               
                   Galaxy 1R/15  133.0W 230.6 229.4 25.8  34.0
                               
                         AMC 10  135.0W 232.5 231.3 24.6  35.0
                               
                          AMC 7  137.0W 234.5 233.2 23.4  36.1
                               
                          AMC 8  139.0W 236.3 235.1 22.1  37.0
                               
                   EchoStar 1/2  148.0W 244.2 243.0 16.1  40.6

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JSheridan
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Foxbat
Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
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Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
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Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
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Foxbat
have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
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Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
that would be one hell of a convo :biggrin.
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Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
New more efficient encoders. I think there's around 60 channels/sub channels now in the Tulsa dma. 480 widescreen for most of the sub channels, but some have 2 HD channels and a couple of SD sub channels while others have 1 HD and 5 or more SD sub channels. If they moved to mp4 or hevc encoding they could do higher bitrates for SD or more HD or even 4K in that 6Mhz channel. That could render some early digital tvs unable to tune though as they may not have the codecs for that. Considering 4K tvs have been on sale for years, I think it would be a very small minority of TVs with the problem. I'd rather see that happen and keep ATSC 1 than continue the move to a DRM enforced ATSC 3 world.
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
The title was to catch everyone's eye lol! But it is a thought I've been having as I dev a Roku app for a client. You see many MAAANY years ago I got really interested in cable TV channels and even chatted with a regional carrier, Insight about what it took to get a channel number. It was surprisingly easy although prohibitively expensive.



You could petition, reserve a high channel number, they monitored performance and if they liked you, you'd get lower channel number overtime and cut into ad overlays.



Roku has a similar setup. Make an app, if it has a strong, original linear component you could get channel assignment on The Roku Channel.



As mixed as my feelings are on the current media landscape, I can't help but feel a little excited interest when I scope out the apps in the Roku store.
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navychop
Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.
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Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.
All of those services have FAST Channels. FAST is a linear online broadcast stndrd. You notice how their linear channels all have some overlap? They are gettting paid for every second those streams are up without really having to do their own accounting. Best part is they don't even facilitate any of the stream bandwidth. Over glorified app stores on some android hardware. No reason NOT to stay in the game.
K
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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harshness
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
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Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Jimbo
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Me either ...
They turned out to be a Poor adversary ....
Foxbat
They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
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They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
And too many episodes centering on/around them as well...
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!
Almighty1
I remember this in the news too...

Bobby
I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
SuperDish_Fan23
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg
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Slicker guides never did much for me
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Almighty1
That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
Good point as part of that time mentioned was before I was even alive.

While reports from the family's case focused entirely on the equipment rental charges, media records show that Ester Strogen originally started by paying $29.95 per quarter ($9.98 per month) in the 1960s for her combined telephone connection.
The actual base cost for standard residential telephone service over a 42-year period (spanning roughly 1964 to 2006) reveals how basic connection costs evolved compared to the equipment rental fees:

Historical Phone Service Rates
  • 1960s – 1970s Base Rate: Standard local phone service was heavily subsidized and tightly regulated under the Bell System monopoly. A basic landline package with unlimited local calling typically cost between $5.00 and $10.00 per month.
  • 1980s – 2000s Post-Deregulation Rate: Following the AT&T divestiture in 1984, base line service rates steadily climbed due to the introduction of subscriber line charges, touch-tone fees, and local infrastructure adjustments. By 2006, basic flat-rate local residential phone service hovered around $15.00 to $25.00 per month (excluding long-distance packages and taxes).
The True Lifetime Service Bill

Assuming an average baseline connection fee of roughly $12.00 a month over that 42-year span, the line connectivity itself would have realistically accumulated to approximately $6,000 in raw cash payouts.
When you bundle the actual service costs together with the escalating equipment rental fees, the total cumulative out-of-pocket phone expenses over those four decades easily crossed $12,000 to $14,000. Long-distance phone calls—which were billed entirely by the minute back then and could cost up to 15 to 30 cents per minute—would add significantly more to that historical total depending on usage.

The widely publicized calculation stems from a viral news story from 2006 involving a widow named Ester Strogen. Her family discovered she had been continuously leasing two rotary dial telephones from AT&T for 42 years.
The total cost—which actually came out to more than $14,000 by the time the lease was canceled—was calculated based on the following legacy telecom structure:
  • The Monthly Fee: At the time her granddaughters discovered the charges, the ongoing leasing fee was $29.10 per month for the two outdated phones.
  • The Math: Over 42 years (504 months), paying roughly $24 to $30 a month accumulates to between $12,000 and $14,600 ($29.10 × 504 months = $14,666.40).
Why did this happen?
Prior to the landmark breakup of AT&T ("Ma Bell") in 1984, consumers were legally not allowed to own their phones; they were required to lease them directly from the phone company.
When the laws changed and phone ownership became legal, AT&T spun off its rental division into a company called QLT Consumer Lease Services. Millions of customers, particularly elderly individuals who were used to seeing a single unified phone bill, simply never realized that the small recurring "equipment lease" line-item could be canceled by buying a cheap phone at a retail store.

Yes, leasing absolutely cost that much in reality, and the math is entirely accurate. However, the calculations performed by the family did contain one major historical nuance: they multiplied the final 2006 rate across all 42 years, which means the actual total cash paid out was likely a bit lower.
The original viral story focused on 82-year-old widow Ester Strogen from Canton, Ohio, who paid $29.10 a month for two black rotary phones until her family intervened in July 2006.
The reality behind how the cost reached that staggering total breaks down into two distinct phases:

Phase 1: The Historical Base Rate (1960s – 1984)

When Strogen first got the phones in the 1960s, renting was a legal mandate and cost a fraction of the 2006 price—usually just a few dollars a month.
  • The "Insurance" Mirage: In exchange for that fee, Ma Bell promised free, lifetime maintenance. If the phone broke, they replaced it instantly at no extra cost.
  • The Cost-Plus Reality: Because these solid-state phones were built like tanks out of heavy plastic and steel, they almost never broke. Consumers paid a continuous premium for decades for a repair service they rarely used.
Phase 2: The Deregulation Rate Hikes (1984 – 2006)

After AT&T was forced to break up its monopoly in 1984, the rental side of the business was shifted to Lucent Technologies and later a legacy holding company. To maximize profit off a shrinking customer base, they steadily increased the monthly rental fees over the next 20 years.
  • By 2006, the rental cost had quietly ballooned to roughly $14.55 per phone per month.
  • When the family discovered the $29.10 monthly charge, they looked back at the 42-year span and estimated the collective loss at over $14,000.
Even adjusted for historical inflation—where $2 a month in 1964 had the purchasing power of roughly $20 today—Ester Strogen and hundreds of thousands of other elderly Americans realistically paid thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for standard desk phones they could have purchased at retail for $10.

The exact out-of-pocket dollar amount Ester Strogen paid over those 42 years was never publicly determined, as neither AT&T nor the family had access to monthly billing records stretching all the way back to the 1960s.
The figures reported in the media are entirely mathematical estimates based on the 2006 rate. The two primary numbers used to define the "cost" are:
  • The Stated Media Total: More than $14,000.
  • The Exact Family Formula: $14,666.40. This was derived by taking her final recorded bill of $29.10 per month and multiplying it across the full 42 years (504 months).
What the True Cash Cost Likely Was

Because AT&T did not charge $29.10 a month back in 1964, the true historical cash sum she handed over was lower than $14,000. In the 1960s and 1970s, basic phone lease fees were generally bundled into standard service or itemized at just $1.00 to $2.00 a month per phone.
If we realistically assume she paid lower base rates for the first 20 years before the post-1984 deregulation price hikes took effect, a realistic estimate of the actual cash paid is between $5,000 and $7,000.

The Real Cost When Adjusted for Inflation

While the family's $14,000 calculation overestimates the raw cash paid, it actually underestimates the true economic damage when factoring in the time value of money.
Paying $2.00 a month for equipment in 1964 sounds minor, but due to severe inflation during the 1970s, those early single dollars had the purchasing power of roughly $20.00 each in 2006 terms. If you adjust every historical lower monthly payment upward to account for inflation, Ester Strogen realistically lost the equivalent of well over $15,000 in modern purchasing power by renting instead of buying.
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Slicker guides never did much for me
me either. sometimes it seems like things disappear when they start changing sh*t around :biggrin
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I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!
you would be better off looking in ca for a train wreck to nowhere :biggrin :p
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jcrandall
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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K
WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.
harshness
One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
M
One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
K
WPLG/10 Miami is now available to stream customers

The CW stations WCWW/25 South Bend and WBKP/5 Marquette are testing on the stream server

Last week they also added a bunch of CW stations that are still not available to sat customers:
WETM-DT/19 Elmira
WJET-DT/25 Erie
KLFY-DT/11 Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 Utica
KFDX-DT/4 Wichita Falls
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Well, that was fast ! DTV Stream brought back WTCN's HD signal today.

I have to assume the station signing up a week ago as the Miami Heat affiliate here (to carry their games) did the trick. NBA magic !!!

Or the station engineer took care of the problem after hearing about it.
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WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.
Channel 28 Nashville hasn't been added so far, correct?
K
WNPX Nashville and WMYD Detroit were added to stream about 2 months ago.

They also now have PRDTRS/651 for those in Predators territory outside of the Nashville DMA and PISTONS/663-2 for those in Pistons territory outside of the Detroit DMA.
TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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comfortably_numb
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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harshness
medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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rvvaquero
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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b4pjoe
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
rvvaquero
Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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meStevo
Got to unfurl and hold the flag at Allegiant for the anthem today - amazing experience.
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